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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 27 2017 17:25 GMT
#3261
I think minutes played vs goal involment stats to determine usefulness is a bit misleading.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28743 Posts
February 27 2017 17:41 GMT
#3262
I think it can have some validity, but it requires a) a very large sample size, and b) comparing players with similar roles. Comparing a sub with a starting player does not work. Firstly, significantly more goals are scored towards the end of matches, period. Secondly, having a fresh pair of legs against a tired pair of legs is obviously beneficial as well. Third, subs generally don't get enough play time for their sample size to give a true indicator of their skill, at least not over one season.

Relevant picture with stats over when premier league goals have been scored :
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81-90+ is a bit skewed because that bracket is basically like 13-14 minutes on average, but the trend is still clear that more goals happen towards the end of games, which totally makes sense, as teams will inevitably be more gung ho towards the end of games. I'd also argue that goals hinge more on defensive mistakes than attacking prowess, and that tired defenders make a lot more mistakes.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 19:00 GMT
#3263
Borussia Dortmund's Mario Gotze out for unspecified period with metabolism problem

Source
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 20:30 GMT
#3264
Leicester go 1-0 up against Liverpool 28minutes played. Good goal from an exceptional defense splitting pass. Problem is Leicester look really good here in terms of energy levels and trying. Not causing alot of greif but dont look like the push overs they have been. Liverpool finding it difficult, you would still fancy them though of getting at least 1.
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
February 27 2017 20:39 GMT
#3265
what a cracker by drinkwater
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
February 27 2017 20:39 GMT
#3266
Klopp gonna be next to go at this rate
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 20:40 GMT
#3267
Holy crap where did that come from haha. 2-0 Leicester!! Liverpool in trouble now
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 21:19 GMT
#3268
3-0! Vardy is havin a party again!! #RaneriWasTheProblem?
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28743 Posts
February 27 2017 21:20 GMT
#3269
naw, it's just clever on leicester's behalf to time being below the relegation line before facing liverpool. That's the easiest way to beat them.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 27 2017 23:04 GMT
#3270
Leicester top4 from here gogo
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 28 2017 00:31 GMT
#3271
Ay I'm jinxed when it comes to fantasy football and their team. Pick coutinho, mane scores 2. Switched to mane and coutinho scores this game. Rinse and repeat for the last 10 matches or so.....Not gonna be selecting them anymore lol

Liverpool is just too thin squad wise. Their bench is pathetic, klopp is forced to play the same lineup every week. They have no one to blame but themselves
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
February 28 2017 02:24 GMT
#3272
Lovely news for us United peeps

Now all we need is Liverpool to somehow come back from this shameful display and deliver a win against Arsenal this coming weekend, and United is wide open for 4th. That postponed game against City is still a big question mark but we'll take what we can get now.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
February 28 2017 06:00 GMT
#3273
What a huge drop off for Liverpool. At one point they were 5 pts off Chelsea and could have made it 2. Now they could potentially drop to 6. What a difference 2 months make.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18590 Posts
February 28 2017 13:08 GMT
#3274
Yeah it's also very unusual for Klopp. He has always performed better in the second half of the seasons than in the first...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6266 Posts
February 28 2017 14:51 GMT
#3275
Did anyone see this goal btw? Pretty crazy.



Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28743 Posts
February 28 2017 15:39 GMT
#3276
Seriously hilarious how the players are complaining.. Like I read in a norwegian paper that the goalie basically said 'This is seriously fucked up, the goal-line technology made the difference and things could have been different if it had not.'?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 28 2017 15:41 GMT
#3277
Yeah we discussed it few pages back, hilarious. Poor keeper must feel so bad
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 18:52:07
February 28 2017 16:22 GMT
#3278
On March 01 2017 00:39 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Seriously hilarious how the players are complaining.. Like I read in a norwegian paper that the goalie basically said 'This is seriously fucked up, the goal-line technology made the difference and things could have been different if it had not.'?


Not just the goalie, a large portion of the media have been complaining about it. The technology is still being experimented so the first half of the season the technology was in amsterdam and the second half of the season it is in Rotterdam. In terms of matches it is fair, but obviously Feyenoord profited more from the technology than Ajax did. So everyone in Amsterdam and Eindhoven are all being salty about it. Completely forgetting that we are talking about a legit goal which would not have counted and Feyenoord being the better side for a good 70 minutes.

Also the referee said on tv yesterday that Feyenoord should have gotten a penalty, which would have been the talking point had there not been goalline technology.

On March 01 2017 02:24 sharkie wrote:
Are media and players seriously complaining that a legal goal was given? o.O

Yeah they are. Crazy isn't it?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18590 Posts
February 28 2017 17:24 GMT
#3279
Are media and players seriously complaining that a legal goal was given? o.O
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 12:53:13
February 28 2017 21:43 GMT
#3280
from championship top game:

e: new link
https://streamable.com/modht
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
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