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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
February 26 2017 19:03 GMT
#3241
Manolo Gabbiadini off to a flying start at least? 5 goals in his first 3 matches. And with the wrongfully disallowed goal in there, should've been 6 in 3!
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 26 2017 19:35 GMT
#3242
Yeah gotta wonder where he's gona play next season
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
February 26 2017 21:22 GMT
#3243
omg la liga referees are so bad. That penalty call against Villareal is one of the most retarded I've seen.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 21:56:24
February 26 2017 21:54 GMT
#3244
Come on now at least it's entertaining

possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 27 2017 08:07 GMT
#3245
On February 27 2017 01:10 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah it great when technology helps gives the proper result ! Now Feyernoord on course for their first title in a long while right/


Man what an insane match yesterday. I was physically and emotionally tired haha. We were so good the first 20 minutes and should have put the game to bed then. Then we let ourselves get pushed back. Only when we conceded the 1-1 did we push forward again. Looking at the chances we created I feel we deserved the win.

And I am grateful to Jeroen Zoet.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 27 2017 08:18 GMT
#3246
On February 27 2017 06:54 sneirac wrote:
Come on now at least it's entertaining

https://twitter.com/PensApuestas/status/835944147408326661


WHAT THE FUCK is that? O.O
Did Bale forget in which penalty area he was?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 09:21 GMT
#3247
Real did well to come back from 2-0 down and Morata is god but Zidane loves him some crappy over rated Benzema!!! Even though penalty was weird as fuck but the other two goals Real scored were good.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 12:36:47
February 27 2017 12:17 GMT
#3248
How is Benzema overrated ?

Super god Diego Costa has 0.5 goals per game, Benzema, THE OVERRATED, also has 0.5 goals per game

he is a striker, he scores goals, im not sure what you want from him also... oh and he is great at driving defenders away, he is pretty good at holding the ball, nice positioning also, etc...

He might or might not be the end all be all of strikers, but overrated ? thats crossing the line IMO
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
February 27 2017 12:33 GMT
#3249
benzema also gets subbed off in most games he plays for RM. (Last 4 seasons he has started 105 matches in la liga, been subbed off in 70 of them. This influences goals per game.)

Benzema is a really solid striker who is good at everything a striker needs to be good at. I think he's somewhere around top 10 pure strikers in the world, and rated as such.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 27 2017 12:44 GMT
#3250
You guys don't understand. Benzema actually has real football skills. Pande doesn't like that. He wants brutes who only score goals and do nothing else.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 12:58:58
February 27 2017 12:52 GMT
#3251
Benzema is shocking always will be always has been. Morata minutes per goal ratio for Real Madrid is madness.

Morata 743minutes played in La Liga; 8Goals 2Assists -- 92mins per goal
Benzema 1207minutes played in La Liga; 5Goals 3Assists -- 241mins per goal

Champs League this season;
Benzema 498Mins 5Goals -- 99.6mins per goal
Morata 151Mins 2Goals 1Assists -- 75.5mins per goal

But reason i say he over rated is he never seems to do well when they need him too. He has loadsa chances every game it seems and makes howling misses in lots and lots of them. Not saying anyone else is different or no striker does that, but with Benzema it seems alot that this happens! Plus as you can see from minutes per goal stats, Benzema plays every game still and Morata is subbed on last 10-15 mins max. Benzema is 18 games (15 starts 3 subs) Morata is 17 games (7 starts, 9 subs)

On February 27 2017 21:44 sharkie wrote:
You guys don't understand. Benzema actually has real football skills. Pande doesn't like that. He wants brutes who only score goals and do nothing else.


Pretty sure a striker scoring 28 goals a season like Ibra right now or whatever he doing better than someone who is not scoring 28 goals and looks like Suarez/Messi on the ball?


Plus what im sure pisses of Real Madrid faithful is every time Morata comes in he produces it seems, but the fact that Zidane plays Benzema over him who hasn't been impressive this season at all is worrying for Zidane's future. Morata don't forget is a product of Real Madrid academy plus he is Spanish which is a win win for any club!
At this rate though i hope Benzema stays and starts and Morata has enough and can come play at Chelsea with Costa :D
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 27 2017 12:59 GMT
#3252
Don't forget that Benzema also has to do a shitload of backtracking since CR doesn't do any of that.
He is basically defending for 2 players. Can't blame him for less goals then
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
February 27 2017 13:08 GMT
#3253
well this season benzema has performed much worse than any of the previous 5 seasons, so judging him based on this season he does come off looking bad. But last season he had 1995 minutes, 24 goals and 7 assist - that's actually great. Season before, 2313 minutes, 15 goals, 10 assist. Before that, 2700 minutes, 17 goals, 9 assist. CL stats from previous two seasons is 1250 minutes and 10 goals, also decent.

So I agree that this season his numbers look bad. But overall his stats are very solid, below MSN, ronaldo lewandowsi zlatan aguero, but comparable to pretty much anyone else. (I'm sure there are a couple other players with comparable or better numbers over the past 5 years, but I dunno if there are more than 15 players with better goal/assist per minute ratio.) Nobody is claiming Benzema is the best in the world, just that he's consistently solid, and with an apparent exception for this season, he has been.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 13:15 GMT
#3254
Yeah no doubt. Ivanovic was one of the best defenders in the world. Then 2015-16 season happened and now look at him, he back in Russian league

They have a striker in Morata who is ready and needs more game time but every week Benzema is played over him still. Which is strange in my view when there is competition for places there is no excuse not to swap and change them when either doesn't perform. But as you can see, even though the stats in Morata's favor, Benzema is played over him every single time.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 27 2017 13:58 GMT
#3255
Well... Getting those stats is much easier when every time you enter the pitch all defenders already have 70 minutes in their legs.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 27 2017 14:04 GMT
#3256
On February 27 2017 22:58 mahrgell wrote:
Well... Getting those stats is much easier when every time you enter the pitch all defenders already have 70 minutes in their legs.


Yeah Benzema being one of the main reasons why the defenders are tired
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 14:55:40
February 27 2017 14:54 GMT
#3257
On February 27 2017 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah no doubt. Ivanovic was one of the best defenders in the world. Then 2015-16 season happened and now look at him, he back in Russian league

They have a striker in Morata who is ready and needs more game time but every week Benzema is played over him still. Which is strange in my view when there is competition for places there is no excuse not to swap and change them when either doesn't perform. But as you can see, even though the stats in Morata's favor, Benzema is played over him every single time.


Comparing a someones goals to time ratio when they play as a sub to someone who starts a game is such a facepalmy comparison.

By that logic Injury master Sturridge has one of the highest Goals per minute ratio in the PL. What a travesty he isnt rated higher.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 14:55 GMT
#3258
What else can you do? If the guy is scoring so much in so little time.. He can only do what he can do when he gets the few minutes he gets. If it was the other way round we will have the same conversation.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 14:58:10
February 27 2017 14:57 GMT
#3259
On February 27 2017 23:55 Pandemona wrote:
What else can you do? If the guy is scoring so much in so little time.. He can only do what he can do when he gets the few minutes he gets. If it was the other way round we will have the same conversation.


Yes we would, because you would bring it up and it would still be stupid.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 27 2017 14:58 GMT
#3260
How's it stupid, im pretty sure like i said all the Real Madrid fans are calling for exactly the same thing. When there academy prospect is sat on the bench whilst Benzema misses chance after chance, for Morata to play 10-15 minutes a game and score in that period of time.
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