EPTWTF IS THIS GAME lolol
Good job city
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
WTF IS THIS GAME lolol Good job city | ||
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Germany5966 Posts
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Pandemona
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 22 2017 06:33 Mafe wrote: Two mightily entertaining games, too bad they are taking much of the tension out of the return legs though. Athletico will close shop or destroy Leverkusen, I think Monaco/City is still open even if City gets the upper hand here. They'll conced several goals at Monaco. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Fun 2nd leg i hope. | ||
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ApocAlypsE007
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 22 2017 06:38 Pandemona wrote: Great game of attacking football, defensively both sides were appalling but for the neutrals what a fun game. 8 Glorious goals and some pearlers! Fun 2nd leg i hope. The issue is that when both teams are so aggressive with players pushed so far forward all the time it leads to alot of 1v1's and defenders getting stuck on their heels backtracking against the long ball and counters. Any team at the end stage of the champions league can execute really well and quite often. Add to that the quality of the attacking players in both teams this is like the idea game for them. I dont think its fair to be to harsh on defenders on some of the goals but at the same time if your going to play that way you had better make sure your defenders are top tier when it comes to 1v1 defending on the counter. City's defenders are not. Kompany at his peak maybe but Stones is a positional defender who would work better in a more passive system, he is going to get wrecked by even mid level clubs on counters,(which happens frequently) its all well and good that Guardiola likes ball players but if his defenders cant defend the 1v1 its not going to get him a championship team playing this way, atleast not a consistent one. I think he realizes this and is just hoping Stones will get baptized into being one. Maybe he will maybe he wont, but I dont see the signs as yet. Otamendi is a lost cause in that area. He is better than Stones but still pretty average. He isnt going to get better thats for sure. That having been said its a bit harsh for player not equipped. Kinda the same problem Liverpool have when you play the aggressive press if your defenders cant defend the long ball well enough for cover to make it back your going to drop points. This one 1v1 get out of jail defending is something both Barcelona and Bayern excelled at immensely against opposition weaker than them and only got punished by top level teams which is when you saw (and see ) them sometimes lose to inflated scorelines where they get into a hole and would rather just keep digging. Other teams like Atleti will choose to play it safer and try to pick their moments to go all out which is a less risky approach but also leaves you limited opportunity for a comeback. Perception wise the former is just way worse if it doesnt work but either is viable and it just comes down to philosophy and how much faith your team has in its ability to execute either game play Either way its fun to watch for me. But more goals is always more entertaining for everyone. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Champions League RO16 - Day 4 Kick Off ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fti5tGh.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8BD0bvv.png) | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On February 22 2017 21:17 SoSexy wrote: I feel stupid but why wasn't Manchester last goal considered offside? In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left. Not a forward pass. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18590 Posts
So sad how many people don't know about this rule! | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
While the pass was played forward, the player receiving the pass was behind the ball, when the pass was played. So it does not count as a forward pass. (not the direction of the pass but the initial position of the pass receiver counts here) And here the gif: https://streamable.com/xawqu Oh, and good luck searchig for Pandes defender... | ||
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Netherlands6265 Posts
On February 22 2017 06:51 Rebs wrote: The issue is that when both teams are so aggressive with players pushed so far forward all the time it leads to alot of 1v1's and defenders getting stuck on their heels backtracking against the long ball and counters. Any team at the end stage of the champions league can execute really well and quite often. Add to that the quality of the attacking players in both teams this is like the idea game for them. I dont think its fair to be to harsh on defenders on some of the goals but at the same time if your going to play that way you had better make sure your defenders are top tier when it comes to 1v1 defending on the counter. City's defenders are not. Kompany at his peak maybe but Stones is a positional defender who would work better in a more passive system, he is going to get wrecked by even mid level clubs on counters,(which happens frequently) its all well and good that Guardiola likes ball players but if his defenders cant defend the 1v1 its not going to get him a championship team playing this way, atleast not a consistent one. I think he realizes this and is just hoping Stones will get baptized into being one. Maybe he will maybe he wont, but I dont see the signs as yet. Otamendi is a lost cause in that area. He is better than Stones but still pretty average. He isnt going to get better thats for sure. That having been said its a bit harsh for player not equipped. Kinda the same problem Liverpool have when you play the aggressive press if your defenders cant defend the long ball well enough for cover to make it back your going to drop points. This one 1v1 get out of jail defending is something both Barcelona and Bayern excelled at immensely against opposition weaker than them and only got punished by top level teams which is when you saw (and see ) them sometimes lose to inflated scorelines where they get into a hole and would rather just keep digging. Other teams like Atleti will choose to play it safer and try to pick their moments to go all out which is a less risky approach but also leaves you limited opportunity for a comeback. Perception wise the former is just way worse if it doesnt work but either is viable and it just comes down to philosophy and how much faith your team has in its ability to execute either game play Either way its fun to watch for me. But more goals is always more entertaining for everyone. A lot of the mistakes had nothing to do with being 1v1 in particular. The city goaly just gifting the ball to a Monaco player, Monaco's keeper letting the ball go with Aguero's first goal and the defending by Stones against Falcao with the 3rd goal were just personal mistakes. That had nothing to do with playstyle. I don't disagree with your general point that aggressive teams get their defenders in a 1v1 position more often and that it's hard to defend but I don't think that htis game was that good of an example of that. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On February 22 2017 21:23 sharkie wrote: So sad how many people don't know about this rule! Ppl should watch more rugby. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 22 2017 21:29 mahrgell wrote: Actually, the more correct answer is: While the pass was played forward, the player receiving the pass was behind the ball, when the pass was played. So it does not count as a forward pass. (not the direction of the pass but the initial position of the pass receiver counts here) And here the gif: https://streamable.com/xawqu Oh, and good luck searchig for Pandes defender... Was on about the original defender on move 1 which is where i thought the offside was being discussed! | ||
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