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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 21 2017 21:21 GMT
#3141
AHAHAH
WTF IS THIS GAME lolol

Good job city
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
February 21 2017 21:22 GMT
#3142
This game...
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:25:56
February 21 2017 21:24 GMT
#3143
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
February 21 2017 21:27 GMT
#3144
What a goal, what a game.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 21 2017 21:27 GMT
#3145
That's brutal. All this and still 0pts for Monaco.
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 21 2017 21:33 GMT
#3146
Two mightily entertaining games, too bad they are taking much of the tension out of the return legs though.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 21 2017 21:34 GMT
#3147
Worst part is with the 2 goal win now for City, you would back them to avoid a 2-0/4-2 kinda scoreline in Monaco right. That's the only way they losing this tie now.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 21 2017 21:34 GMT
#3148
On February 22 2017 06:33 Mafe wrote:
Two mightily entertaining games, too bad they are taking much of the tension out of the return legs though.


Athletico will close shop or destroy Leverkusen, I think Monaco/City is still open even if City gets the upper hand here. They'll conced several goals at Monaco.
Zest fanboy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:39:04
February 21 2017 21:38 GMT
#3149
Great game of attacking football, defensively both sides were appalling but for the neutrals what a fun game. 8 Glorious goals and some pearlers!

Fun 2nd leg i hope.
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ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
February 21 2017 21:44 GMT
#3150
That was such a fun game to watch O_O. Monaco's attacking a bit reminds me of Morinho's Real Madrid.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:54:40
February 21 2017 21:51 GMT
#3151
On February 22 2017 06:38 Pandemona wrote:
Great game of attacking football, defensively both sides were appalling but for the neutrals what a fun game. 8 Glorious goals and some pearlers!

Fun 2nd leg i hope.


The issue is that when both teams are so aggressive with players pushed so far forward all the time it leads to alot of 1v1's and defenders getting stuck on their heels backtracking against the long ball and counters. Any team at the end stage of the champions league can execute really well and quite often.

Add to that the quality of the attacking players in both teams this is like the idea game for them. I dont think its fair to be to harsh on defenders on some of the goals but at the same time if your going to play that way you had better make sure your defenders are top tier when it comes to 1v1 defending on the counter.

City's defenders are not. Kompany at his peak maybe but Stones is a positional defender who would work better in a more passive system, he is going to get wrecked by even mid level clubs on counters,(which happens frequently) its all well and good that Guardiola likes ball players but if his defenders cant defend the 1v1 its not going to get him a championship team playing this way, atleast not a consistent one.

I think he realizes this and is just hoping Stones will get baptized into being one. Maybe he will maybe he wont, but I dont see the signs as yet.

Otamendi is a lost cause in that area. He is better than Stones but still pretty average. He isnt going to get better thats for sure.

That having been said its a bit harsh for player not equipped.

Kinda the same problem Liverpool have when you play the aggressive press if your defenders cant defend the long ball well enough for cover to make it back your going to drop points.

This one 1v1 get out of jail defending is something both Barcelona and Bayern excelled at immensely against opposition weaker than them and only got punished by top level teams which is when you saw (and see ) them sometimes lose to inflated scorelines where they get into a hole and would rather just keep digging. Other teams like Atleti will choose to play it safer and try to pick their moments to go all out which is a less risky approach but also leaves you limited opportunity for a comeback. Perception wise the former is just way worse if it doesnt work but either is viable and it just comes down to philosophy and how much faith your team has in its ability to execute either game play

Either way its fun to watch for me. But more goals is always more entertaining for everyone.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 22 2017 12:16 GMT
#3152
Champions League RO16 - Day 4
Kick Off


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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 22 2017 12:17 GMT
#3153
I feel stupid but why wasn't Manchester last goal considered offside?
In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 22 2017 12:18 GMT
#3154
Think Sane was borderline in line with the defender for Monaco that's why and if it touches Sterling on the line it would be offside but it seems it was tight and right call from what i saw.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 22 2017 12:19 GMT
#3155
On February 22 2017 21:17 SoSexy wrote:
I feel stupid but why wasn't Manchester last goal considered offside?
In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left.

Not a forward pass.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
February 22 2017 12:23 GMT
#3156
On February 22 2017 21:19 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 21:17 SoSexy wrote:
I feel stupid but why wasn't Manchester last goal considered offside?
In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left.

Not a forward pass.


So sad how many people don't know about this rule!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 12:29:33
February 22 2017 12:29 GMT
#3157
Actually, the more correct answer is:
While the pass was played forward, the player receiving the pass was behind the ball, when the pass was played.
So it does not count as a forward pass. (not the direction of the pass but the initial position of the pass receiver counts here)

And here the gif:
https://streamable.com/xawqu

Oh, and good luck searchig for Pandes defender...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
February 22 2017 12:30 GMT
#3158
On February 22 2017 06:51 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 06:38 Pandemona wrote:
Great game of attacking football, defensively both sides were appalling but for the neutrals what a fun game. 8 Glorious goals and some pearlers!

Fun 2nd leg i hope.


The issue is that when both teams are so aggressive with players pushed so far forward all the time it leads to alot of 1v1's and defenders getting stuck on their heels backtracking against the long ball and counters. Any team at the end stage of the champions league can execute really well and quite often.

Add to that the quality of the attacking players in both teams this is like the idea game for them. I dont think its fair to be to harsh on defenders on some of the goals but at the same time if your going to play that way you had better make sure your defenders are top tier when it comes to 1v1 defending on the counter.

City's defenders are not. Kompany at his peak maybe but Stones is a positional defender who would work better in a more passive system, he is going to get wrecked by even mid level clubs on counters,(which happens frequently) its all well and good that Guardiola likes ball players but if his defenders cant defend the 1v1 its not going to get him a championship team playing this way, atleast not a consistent one.

I think he realizes this and is just hoping Stones will get baptized into being one. Maybe he will maybe he wont, but I dont see the signs as yet.

Otamendi is a lost cause in that area. He is better than Stones but still pretty average. He isnt going to get better thats for sure.

That having been said its a bit harsh for player not equipped.

Kinda the same problem Liverpool have when you play the aggressive press if your defenders cant defend the long ball well enough for cover to make it back your going to drop points.

This one 1v1 get out of jail defending is something both Barcelona and Bayern excelled at immensely against opposition weaker than them and only got punished by top level teams which is when you saw (and see ) them sometimes lose to inflated scorelines where they get into a hole and would rather just keep digging. Other teams like Atleti will choose to play it safer and try to pick their moments to go all out which is a less risky approach but also leaves you limited opportunity for a comeback. Perception wise the former is just way worse if it doesnt work but either is viable and it just comes down to philosophy and how much faith your team has in its ability to execute either game play

Either way its fun to watch for me. But more goals is always more entertaining for everyone.

A lot of the mistakes had nothing to do with being 1v1 in particular. The city goaly just gifting the ball to a Monaco player, Monaco's keeper letting the ball go with Aguero's first goal and the defending by Stones against Falcao with the 3rd goal were just personal mistakes. That had nothing to do with playstyle.

I don't disagree with your general point that aggressive teams get their defenders in a 1v1 position more often and that it's hard to defend but I don't think that htis game was that good of an example of that.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 22 2017 12:33 GMT
#3159
On February 22 2017 21:23 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 21:19 mahrgell wrote:
On February 22 2017 21:17 SoSexy wrote:
I feel stupid but why wasn't Manchester last goal considered offside?
In the last pass there are 3 Manchester players and only the goalkeeper left.

Not a forward pass.


So sad how many people don't know about this rule!

Ppl should watch more rugby.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 22 2017 13:02 GMT
#3160
On February 22 2017 21:29 mahrgell wrote:
Actually, the more correct answer is:
While the pass was played forward, the player receiving the pass was behind the ball, when the pass was played.
So it does not count as a forward pass. (not the direction of the pass but the initial position of the pass receiver counts here)

And here the gif:
https://streamable.com/xawqu

Oh, and good luck searchig for Pandes defender...

Was on about the original defender on move 1 which is where i thought the offside was being discussed!
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