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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 08 2016 01:06 GMT
#441
On July 08 2016 09:57 tenacity wrote:
im a UFC newb but why was the fight between jon jones and DC such a big thing? are these two fighters one of the best ever or do they have a big grudge against each other?

Jon Jones is the greatest lhw ever (though his legacy may be tainted depending on his test results). DC is a great fighter. Former Strikeforce HW champion and the clear #2 guy in 2 divisions. He's only ever lost to Jones. He's also much better than people give him credit for imo. He should definitely be ranked higher on the p4p list. He has wins over top 10 ranked fighters in 3 divisions. They legitimately hate each other to the point where they brawled at a press conference before their last fight.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 08 2016 01:07 GMT
#442
It's also nice to see helwani get some love at the press conference. Dana is not happy at all.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 08 2016 01:09 GMT
#443
On July 08 2016 09:57 tenacity wrote:
im a UFC newb but why was the fight between jon jones and DC such a big thing? are these two fighters one of the best ever or do they have a big grudge against each other?


Jon Jones is generally considered to be the best pound for pound fighter at the moment (I think saying all time wouldn't be that far of a stretch) and someone who has never lost an old fashioned fight, only DQ once for using illegal moves on someone who was getting destroyed.

Now people want to see him back, after he went through all that shit getting stripped of the belt and whatnot, but from the looks of it, he's just back to it.

DC has never lost an MMA fight outside of his bout with Jones, and he's a pretty likeable guy, doing commentary and whatnot. Out of any title fight you can have, Jon Jones vs Cormier probably brings the most hype for the raw fighting ability, and time tested legends.

Other people are popular for other reasons (like McGregor), but generally, the heavier divisions are where people like to see fights, and I don't have numbers for historic popularity, but I'd imagine that light heavyweight is the most popular division for championship bouts that don't have big personality figures.
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tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 01:56:11
July 08 2016 01:50 GMT
#444
ok, thanks for the information!!

ive just watched the press conf. brawl and the whole fight. great fight and I understand the hype better now

edit: dunno if foxsports is the most credible scource but according to them:

"Daniel Cormier still wanted to fight Jon Jones despite positive drug test" http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-200-daniel-cormier-still-wanted-to-fight-jon-jones-despite-positive-drug-test-070716?cmpid=feed:-sports-CQ-RSS-Feed
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 02:02:12
July 08 2016 02:01 GMT
#445
Video here (from above link, so sad):

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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 08 2016 02:13 GMT
#446
On July 08 2016 10:50 tenacity wrote:
ok, thanks for the information!!

ive just watched the press conf. brawl and the whole fight. great fight and I understand the hype better now

edit: dunno if foxsports is the most credible scource but according to them:

"Daniel Cormier still wanted to fight Jon Jones despite positive drug test" http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-200-daniel-cormier-still-wanted-to-fight-jon-jones-despite-positive-drug-test-070716?cmpid=feed:-sports-CQ-RSS-Feed

people who report/analyze on UFC from fox sports get paid by the UFC
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 08 2016 02:51 GMT
#447
Sweet fight between Belal Muhammad Alan Jouban, make sure to watch Rafael dos Anjos today.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 08 2016 03:53 GMT
#448
Three words.

Fuck you Dean.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 08 2016 03:54 GMT
#449
On July 08 2016 12:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Three words.

Fuck you Dean.

True. He should have waited until RDA was dead.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17598 Posts
July 08 2016 03:55 GMT
#450
the last 18 months has not been kind of UFC champions. nice fight though.

On July 08 2016 11:13 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 10:50 tenacity wrote:
ok, thanks for the information!!
ive just watched the press conf. brawl and the whole fight. great fight and I understand the hype better now
edit: dunno if foxsports is the most credible scource but according to them:
"Daniel Cormier still wanted to fight Jon Jones despite positive drug test" http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-200-daniel-cormier-still-wanted-to-fight-jon-jones-despite-positive-drug-test-070716?cmpid=feed:-sports-CQ-RSS-Feed

people who report/analyze on UFC from fox sports get paid by the UFC

+1, good point.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 03:58:48
July 08 2016 03:56 GMT
#451
On July 08 2016 12:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 12:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Three words.

Fuck you Dean.

True. He should have waited until RDA was dead.


No, but come on. When Herb Dean stopped the fight RdA smoothly walked away. He had a chance to recover.

Yeah, with the exception of Demetrius Johnson, nobody with more than 2 defences. Hard to have epic fights when you don't have champions who've stood the test of time.
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Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
July 08 2016 04:00 GMT
#452
Looks like DC vs Silva as they just talked about it post-fight.

I think it was a fair stoppage; RDA would have just stood there and there was at least 1:30 left for Alvarez to keep teeing off.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 08 2016 04:00 GMT
#453
On July 08 2016 12:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 12:54 royalroadweed wrote:
On July 08 2016 12:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Three words.

Fuck you Dean.

True. He should have waited until RDA was dead.


No, but come on. When Herb Dean stopped the fight RdA smoothly walked away. He had a chance to recover.

Yeah, with the exception of Demetrius Johnson, nobody with more than 2 defences. Hard to have epic fights when you don't have champions who've stood the test of time.

He was clearly not defending himself. This was TJ vs Barao 2 all over again.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 04:15:00
July 08 2016 04:09 GMT
#454
On July 08 2016 13:00 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 12:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 08 2016 12:54 royalroadweed wrote:
On July 08 2016 12:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Three words.

Fuck you Dean.

True. He should have waited until RDA was dead.


No, but come on. When Herb Dean stopped the fight RdA smoothly walked away. He had a chance to recover.

Yeah, with the exception of Demetrius Johnson, nobody with more than 2 defences. Hard to have epic fights when you don't have champions who've stood the test of time.

He was clearly not defending himself. This was TJ vs Barao 2 all over again.


http://stationfy.com/watch/577f24438925ff777662da2a

Not convinced at all. Just such a bad stoppage that just destroys the spirit of fighting. That was like two punches to the face that weren't defended, big woop.

Oh well, new champ... Following these divisions is hectic.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 08 2016 04:21 GMT
#455
+285 win baby xd
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17598 Posts
July 08 2016 04:28 GMT
#456
so Tate v. Nunes is now the Main Event of UFC 200

a women's title fight is the main event for the UFC's flagship event...
whoda thunk it?
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 08 2016 04:34 GMT
#457
bets on how many people walk out after the brock fight?


DC BACK IN ACTION
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 04:36:43
July 08 2016 04:35 GMT
#458
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#459
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 04:42:45
July 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#460
On July 08 2016 13:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
so Tate v. Nunes is now the Main Event of UFC 200

a women's title fight is the main event for the UFC's flagship event...
whoda thunk it?


No wonder they're trying to sell the UFC S:

I wonder how many people already bought the PPV thinking Jones would be there (can you get a refund anyway?)

And I agree, that's like the worst UFC main event since UFC 191 lol. Smart of them to realize that Hunt vs Lesnar really isn't hyping people up. Like I said though, they have no headliner, just 5-6 really good fights.
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