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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-07 19:15:08
July 07 2016 19:14 GMT
#7941
Something about Pogba that's kind of interesting is that he counts as a home grown player for Man Utd for CL squads, which helps a lot with roster flexibility, since none of the young guys of the past few years panned out except for Rashford. And I think Mou doesn't like youngsters in general?

Also another reason I always buy Pogba in FM.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18410 Posts
July 07 2016 21:40 GMT
#7942
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 07 2016 22:04 GMT
#7943
On July 08 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.

Only person with a shot should be Suarez and even if he outscores him by 3:1 for the first half of next season I still think it's quite unlikely
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 05:03:25
July 08 2016 05:02 GMT
#7944
What about Griezmann? MVP with Atletico most of the season, MVP with France. A lot less goals than Ronaldo, but for a me, a much bigger impact this season... Also it's not like Messi has had a bad season: la Liga, Copa del Rey, Copa America final, a good amount of goals (including beating Batistuta's record with Argentina).

Unless Ronaldo carries Portugal on Sunday, I can see the Ballon d'Or being given to the one with the most flashy August-October. So most likely Ronaldo/Messi. 65/35 Ronaldo for now but you never know.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 08 2016 07:19 GMT
#7945
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.
Revolutionist fan
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18410 Posts
July 08 2016 07:21 GMT
#7946
On July 08 2016 16:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.


It's still less ridicilous than Messi winning that year when Sneijder won everything at club level and Spain won World cup.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 08 2016 07:26 GMT
#7947
On July 08 2016 16:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 16:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.


It's still less ridicilous than Messi winning that year when Sneijder won everything at club level and Spain won World cup.


I think it's close Cannavaro was probably worse than the two tho.
Revolutionist fan
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 08:17:47
July 08 2016 08:02 GMT
#7948
On July 08 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.

Based on the past ~10 years the biggest value for Ballon d'Or title seems to be CL goals. So yeah CR7 is going to win this year.

CR7 and Messi are in top2 as usual, doesn't matter how "bad" they played. In my eyes, Di Maria 2014 and Suarez 2016.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
July 08 2016 08:27 GMT
#7949
On July 08 2016 17:02 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.

Based on the past ~10 years the biggest value for Ballon d'Or title seems to be CL goals. So yeah CR7 is going to win this year.

CR7 and Messi are in top2 as usual, doesn't matter how "bad" they played. In my eyes, Di Maria 2014 and Suarez 2016.


Neuer 2014 and Griezmann 2016
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 08 2016 08:41 GMT
#7950
On July 08 2016 17:27 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 17:02 Dingodile wrote:
On July 08 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.

Based on the past ~10 years the biggest value for Ballon d'Or title seems to be CL goals. So yeah CR7 is going to win this year.

CR7 and Messi are in top2 as usual, doesn't matter how "bad" they played. In my eyes, Di Maria 2014 and Suarez 2016.


Neuer 2014 and Griezmann 2016


Xavi 2010 (over Messi), Neuer 2014 (over CR) and Suárez 2016 :D
Revolutionist fan
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
July 08 2016 09:09 GMT
#7951
On July 08 2016 17:41 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 17:27 Harris1st wrote:
On July 08 2016 17:02 Dingodile wrote:
On July 08 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:
Impossible for Ronaldo to lose Ballon d'Or this year, right?
CL win with Real and Euro final with Portugal which was partly carried by him.

Based on the past ~10 years the biggest value for Ballon d'Or title seems to be CL goals. So yeah CR7 is going to win this year.

CR7 and Messi are in top2 as usual, doesn't matter how "bad" they played. In my eyes, Di Maria 2014 and Suarez 2016.


Neuer 2014 and Griezmann 2016


Xavi 2010 (over Messi), Neuer 2014 (over CR) and Suárez 2016 :D


I would have voted Iniesta in 2010, but Iniesta/Xavi/Sneider all deserved more than Messi.

Ballon d'or is ridicolous since they changed the format, Asian and African votes just vote the most famous player. So I would not expect Griezman in the top 3, despite he deserves it.
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
July 08 2016 09:41 GMT
#7952
Bielsa resigned after 2 days in Lazio.

WTF?
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
July 08 2016 10:20 GMT
#7953
Rumours say that he has been offered Argentina NT coach job.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 10:48:02
July 08 2016 10:47 GMT
#7954
The State attorney on Messi's case is Maria Silva Lapuerta.

Maria Silva is a former RM directive and right hand of Florentino Pérez between the years 2000-2006, who then got a directive spot in a builder company (Sacyr) between 2003-2009, which is nice considering Pérez builder company is like the biggest in the country. She is also the daughter of a former fascist (Franco) minister, which means nothing but it's always cool because the PP party high ranks are filled with them to the tits.

Not saying Messi is innocent of course, just sharing these bunch of sweet coincidences
Revolutionist fan
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 08 2016 18:09 GMT
#7955
On July 08 2016 16:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 16:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.


It's still less ridicilous than Messi winning that year when Sneijder won everything at club level and Spain won World cup.


While this is a legitimate complaint, I think you will complain about this to your grave everytime the award is brought up.

That wrong isnt an excuse for another wrong and is totally unrelated at this point. Even the statute of limitations on murder isnt as long as you have been complaining about this lol.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18410 Posts
July 08 2016 18:49 GMT
#7956
On July 09 2016 03:09 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 16:21 sharkie wrote:
On July 08 2016 16:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.


It's still less ridicilous than Messi winning that year when Sneijder won everything at club level and Spain won World cup.


While this is a legitimate complaint, I think you will complain about this to your grave everytime the award is brought up.

That wrong isnt an excuse for another wrong and is totally unrelated at this point. Even the statute of limitations on murder isnt as long as you have been complaining about this lol.


I only bring it up when someone mentions Ronaldo's unfair Ballon d'Or. That's fair, isn't it?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 08 2016 18:58 GMT
#7957
On July 09 2016 03:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2016 03:09 Rebs wrote:
On July 08 2016 16:21 sharkie wrote:
On July 08 2016 16:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Messi and Suárez were better than CR over the year IMO, but he will probably win it and if he wins the Euro then it's basically 100%.

Wondering if the one he was given without winning a single trophie is more bs than this or not. The lucky wins and shitty teams he had to beat to get both finals is just jaw dropping lol.


It's still less ridicilous than Messi winning that year when Sneijder won everything at club level and Spain won World cup.


While this is a legitimate complaint, I think you will complain about this to your grave everytime the award is brought up.

That wrong isnt an excuse for another wrong and is totally unrelated at this point. Even the statute of limitations on murder isnt as long as you have been complaining about this lol.


I only bring it up when someone mentions Ronaldo's unfair Ballon d'Or. That's fair, isn't it?


Fair point.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 20:19:53
July 08 2016 20:19 GMT
#7958
On July 08 2016 19:47 Salteador Neo wrote:
The State attorney on Messi's case is Maria Silva Lapuerta.

Maria Silva is a former RM directive and right hand of Florentino Pérez between the years 2000-2006, who then got a directive spot in a builder company (Sacyr) between 2003-2009, which is nice considering Pérez builder company is like the biggest in the country. She is also the daughter of a former fascist (Franco) minister, which means nothing but it's always cool because the PP party high ranks are filled with them to the tits.

Not saying Messi is innocent of course, just sharing these bunch of sweet coincidences

Who cares? Whatever biases the prosecutor has against the defendant are irrelevant. She is not required to be impartial, quite the contrary.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 20:58:27
July 08 2016 20:57 GMT
#7959
On July 09 2016 05:19 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 19:47 Salteador Neo wrote:
The State attorney on Messi's case is Maria Silva Lapuerta.

Maria Silva is a former RM directive and right hand of Florentino Pérez between the years 2000-2006, who then got a directive spot in a builder company (Sacyr) between 2003-2009, which is nice considering Pérez builder company is like the biggest in the country. She is also the daughter of a former fascist (Franco) minister, which means nothing but it's always cool because the PP party high ranks are filled with them to the tits.

Not saying Messi is innocent of course, just sharing these bunch of sweet coincidences

Who cares? Whatever biases the prosecutor has against the defendant are irrelevant. She is not required to be impartial, quite the contrary.


yeah for that case maybe, but choosing to selectively uphold the law isnt exactly in good taste.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 09 2016 16:07 GMT
#7960
By all means have him:

http://talksport.com/football/fa-refuse-comment-reports-claim-jurgen-klinsmann-discussions-england-job-160709202471
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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