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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
January 19 2016 05:09 GMT
#4841
rekt liverpool
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 08:34:12
January 19 2016 08:33 GMT
#4842
Think they have just signed him up to be the no2. I mean he is stuck at Liverpool when they bring in a new keeper now right and Klopp will. Mignolet isn't a bad no2 but not a world class no1.
Ter Stegen possibility in the summer.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
January 19 2016 10:05 GMT
#4843
On January 19 2016 17:33 Pandemona wrote:
Think they have just signed him up to be the no2.

That's my thought too, or at least my hope.
No way it's to increase his value, who would be interested in a transfer?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 19 2016 10:32 GMT
#4844
Yeah maybe that too, if someone ever is interested they have to pay alot for him now too, but i doubt anyone is.
Ter Stegen no1
Mignolet no2
Pretty good solid keeper line up

All be it, if Ter Stegen shows his class, he is prone to some silly things too. But also made some wonder saves vs Bayern last season.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 19 2016 11:15 GMT
#4845
On January 19 2016 19:32 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah maybe that too, if someone ever is interested they have to pay alot for him now too, but i doubt anyone is.
Ter Stegen no1
Mignolet no2
Pretty good solid keeper line up

All be it, if Ter Stegen shows his class, he is prone to some silly things too. But also made some wonder saves vs Bayern last season.


His passing is excellent too, could do wonders if they still play with Benteke.
Zest fanboy.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 19 2016 11:40 GMT
#4846
Why would Barça want to sell Stegen tho? He is young and good. Remember that Barça's second keeper plays the CL and copa games, and us (the fans) are super strict on our keepers. Finding a good one and for cheap is no easy task, Stegen was like 15M iirc.

While both Luis Enrique and the fans prefer Bravo over him (that's why he plays Liga and why Stegen probably wants to leave), Bavo is not getting any younger either. If Stegen is smart he is gonna stay. If he really pushes for a transfer, I don't expect Barça to sell him for less than 20-25M.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 19 2016 11:55 GMT
#4847
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18399 Posts
January 19 2016 12:06 GMT
#4848
On January 19 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way

you first said Liverpool and now say CL club. Why would terstegen leave barça to play PL football? No way Liverpool is going into the CL next season.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18718 Posts
January 19 2016 12:06 GMT
#4849
Yeah I never understand the "stay at the club for you position", all this shows is greed imo.

If you know you have the class, change clubs. If you really do have the class you value will increase and your old club will want you back or another as big club will buy you.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 12:13:33
January 19 2016 12:12 GMT
#4850
On January 19 2016 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way

you first said Liverpool and now say CL club. Why would terstegen leave barça to play PL football? No way Liverpool is going into the CL next season.

Just saying he could be an option for Yanited they might not even get champions league either. But he could be PSG new keeper for example anyone who hasn't got a world class keeper as he has the potential to be one and has proven sometimes already.
Liverpool is a good option for him as the coach is german and they will be fighting for champions league next season, 12 months without it would be ok for him im sure at the age of 23.

Also why would he leave? To play football is why he would leave. Like Salteador said, he is out of favor in Barca, they prefer Bravo to him.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 18:17:40
January 19 2016 18:05 GMT
#4851
On January 19 2016 21:12 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
On January 19 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way

you first said Liverpool and now say CL club. Why would terstegen leave barça to play PL football? No way Liverpool is going into the CL next season.

Just saying he could be an option for Yanited they might not even get champions league either. But he could be PSG new keeper for example anyone who hasn't got a world class keeper as he has the potential to be one and has proven sometimes already.
Liverpool is a good option for him as the coach is german and they will be fighting for champions league next season, 12 months without it would be ok for him im sure at the age of 23.

Also why would he leave? To play football is why he would leave. Like Salteador said, he is out of favor in Barca, they prefer Bravo to him.


There is old clubs and then there is Barca/Real. And its not like he doesnt get games. He had 13 apperarances last season which is quite healthy. Bravo had 37 all league. Bravo is the number one keeper on the team and didnt get a CL medal or a Copa medal. Maybe he should leave ? Frankly the balance has been quite solid. Which ofcourse is easier to maintain on a strong team, but still they managed to do it.

So I'd be quite happy if I was Ter Stegen.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
January 19 2016 18:19 GMT
#4852
On January 20 2016 03:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 21:12 Pandemona wrote:
On January 19 2016 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
On January 19 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way

you first said Liverpool and now say CL club. Why would terstegen leave barça to play PL football? No way Liverpool is going into the CL next season.

Just saying he could be an option for Yanited they might not even get champions league either. But he could be PSG new keeper for example anyone who hasn't got a world class keeper as he has the potential to be one and has proven sometimes already.
Liverpool is a good option for him as the coach is german and they will be fighting for champions league next season, 12 months without it would be ok for him im sure at the age of 23.

Also why would he leave? To play football is why he would leave. Like Salteador said, he is out of favor in Barca, they prefer Bravo to him.


There is old clubs and then there is Barca/Real. And its not like he doesnt get games. He had 13 apperarances last season which is quite healthy. Bravo had 37 all league. Bravo is the number one keeper on the team and didnt get a CL medal or a Copa medal. Maybe he should leave ? Frankly the balance has been quite solid. Which ofcourse is easier to maintain on a strong team, but still they managed to do it.

So I'd be quite happy if I was Ter Stegen.


so he played 13 out of 50 possible games? why would he be happy witht hat?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 18:29:58
January 19 2016 18:22 GMT
#4853
On January 20 2016 03:19 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 03:05 Rebs wrote:
On January 19 2016 21:12 Pandemona wrote:
On January 19 2016 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
On January 19 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Comes down to playing vs not though. Like Cech and Courtios, Cech knew he could play first team for most teams in world and didn't want to be sat at bench even for Chelsea, so asked to leave. Ter Stegen in same position (kinda) he could play first team for a lot of good teams out there, maybe even Yanited if they got rid of De Gea right? Whilst he could easily be no2 and push at Barcelona he could also get to play week in week out for a champions league club too.

Can't blame him either way

you first said Liverpool and now say CL club. Why would terstegen leave barça to play PL football? No way Liverpool is going into the CL next season.

Just saying he could be an option for Yanited they might not even get champions league either. But he could be PSG new keeper for example anyone who hasn't got a world class keeper as he has the potential to be one and has proven sometimes already.
Liverpool is a good option for him as the coach is german and they will be fighting for champions league next season, 12 months without it would be ok for him im sure at the age of 23.

Also why would he leave? To play football is why he would leave. Like Salteador said, he is out of favor in Barca, they prefer Bravo to him.


There is old clubs and then there is Barca/Real. And its not like he doesnt get games. He had 13 apperarances last season which is quite healthy. Bravo had 37 all league. Bravo is the number one keeper on the team and didnt get a CL medal or a Copa medal. Maybe he should leave ? Frankly the balance has been quite solid. Which ofcourse is easier to maintain on a strong team, but still they managed to do it.

So I'd be quite happy if I was Ter Stegen.


so he played 13 out of 50 possible games? why would he be happy witht hat?


Because thats a very healthy ratio for a number 2. And this is the highest level of competition. Additionally unlike the Czech/Artosis situation he has time on his side. He knows hes being groomed and he has to keep at it.

Ofcourse It is true that he isnt as in favor recently this season and things can happen, but his situation isnt exactly dire to the point where he would be itching for a move.

Lets put it into perspective like this. Over the last 2 seasons (not this one) hes had 34 appearances to Bravos 56. Thats an even healthier ratio. So he is getting games.

Btw Im not counting stuff like Spanish super cup and all those are random games he probably gets aswell.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
January 19 2016 19:59 GMT
#4854
This has been a really calm winter transfer window. Normally we have so much more drama than this.

No big signings anywhere.

Or maybe this is just my perception as a Benfica fan that lost David Luiz, Matic and Enzo Perez in the last few years during the winter window.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 19 2016 20:40 GMT
#4855
You answered your own question rebs. Healthy for a no2. Why would he want 13 appearances as a no2 when he could get 50 appearances elsewhere and potentially try and reach his potential.
If he joined Liverpool and played amazing, in a few seasons if Liverpool aren't challenging for trophies he would be able to walk into another top team challenging for trophies. Just because you are a no2 keeper at Real or Barca ain't going make him happy if he wants to play every week.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 19 2016 20:53 GMT
#4856
Why? Shows what favoritism and more $$$ does to a club that it still blows money:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 19 2016 21:01 GMT
#4857
Ashley hype!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
January 19 2016 22:18 GMT
#4858
how many internationals or whatever they're calling it now is a MLS team allowed to have?? like 9?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 20 2016 04:44 GMT
#4859
On January 20 2016 05:40 Pandemona wrote:
You answered your own question rebs. Healthy for a no2. Why would he want 13 appearances as a no2 when he could get 50 appearances elsewhere and potentially try and reach his potential.
If he joined Liverpool and played amazing, in a few seasons if Liverpool aren't challenging for trophies he would be able to walk into another top team challenging for trophies. Just because you are a no2 keeper at Real or Barca ain't going make him happy if he wants to play every week.


Ehh... Hes like 2 years in. I'm sure he will want to play more but his position right now is fine for him. Why be a no2 at a bad team that could also ruin your career. The risk isnt worth it at this stage. Maybe in a couple of years but not now. The Bravo situation has to pan out. The fact that he gets games means he has a legit shot at fighting for the starting birth. Not many get that chance. Czech is a great example. He is equal to if not a better keeper than Courtouis but barely got a look in once Mou decided who his first choice was.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 20 2016 05:36 GMT
#4860
Why would he "be no2 at a bad team that could ruin your career." The reason to leave would be to be no1 at any pretty decent/good team that would want him.

Don't think anybody is arguing for him to be no2 at another team since staying no2 at barca would make sense, but if another team offered him to be their no1 it might be tempting depending on how he feels at barca. If they tell him that he'll be their no1 soon he will probably be happy with that, but if they don't plan to ever use him at no1 he would obviously look for a team that will.
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