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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 18 2016 01:11 smr wrote: Could anybody please summarize what media/liverpool fans etc think about Klopp after his first few months? What I hear in Germany is often: - With PL having no pause during the winter he's had no training time to make his team understand the way he wants to play. Big changes can only be expected next season. - PL is tactically far behind Bundesliga etc and most players aren't even fit enough to run more than 60 minutes. Klopp can't have success in these circumstances. Most of it is defense by Dortmund fans who see the fault with Pool instead of Klopp but I guess it could be the other way around in England? Most things I saw were just: "trololololololol mignolet so bad" but that cannot be the whole story. Could be 95% tho. Its partly true, he doesnt have the players he needs to play his style, that was always going to be the case. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 18 2016 01:11 smr wrote: Could anybody please summarize what media/liverpool fans etc think about Klopp after his first few months? What I hear in Germany is often: - With PL having no pause during the winter he's had no training time to make his team understand the way he wants to play. Big changes can only be expected next season. - PL is tactically far behind Bundesliga etc and most players aren't even fit enough to run more than 60 minutes. Klopp can't have success in these circumstances. Most of it is defense by Dortmund fans who see the fault with Pool instead of Klopp but I guess it could be the other way around in England? Most things I saw were just: "trololololololol mignolet so bad" but that cannot be the whole story. Could be 95% tho. He himself is adapting. He hasn't changed his training methods reason everyone is injured. The 2nd comment must be German troll because he said to Pep "you will need 35 players" due to fact that premier league is so fast paced that you need squad numbers if you going to play high press styles. The squad he has is not the squad he wants but he will fix that. Judge him next season is all you have to do, write this one off as him trying to put square pegs in round holes. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On January 18 2016 01:27 sneirac wrote: Ronaldo kicking opponent AND HE GETS A FREEKICK FOR IT OMG | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
On January 18 2016 01:15 Rebs wrote: Its partly true, he doesnt have the players he needs to play his style, that was always going to be the case. Players not being fit makes no sense to me. They have professional staff and have been playing for months now. Of course they're fit. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On January 18 2016 03:28 RvB wrote: Players not being fit makes no sense to me. They have professional staff and have been playing for months now. Of course they're fit. First: Thanks for all the answers guys! The argument about fitness is being made by Dortmund fans alot because when Kagawa came back from United he was in the worst shape we ever saw him in. So yes they are on a standard Premier League fitness level but it seems to some that it is way lower than what we're used to in Germany. When Klopp joined Liverpool their average running distance per game was 6 miles lower than Dortmunds average of last season. That doesn't say too much about the quality of football played as we are demonstrating this season but it could mean that the roster is not able to push as hard as Klopp would want them to. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
6 miles lower average running, when Dortmund play way less games than an English team, add in the "winter break" so the team has more time off so are fresher. Another assumption that has flaws in it. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8943 Posts
On January 18 2016 04:13 Pandemona wrote: He will need 18 man squad if he intends to full on heavy press over a course of the season in England simple. To get that he will need to invest alot of money 18? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 18 2016 04:04 smr wrote: I didn't say all of this was true just showing you what lots of people over here think. That's why I was asking for your perspective. The most interesting part in my opinion is how Klopps playstyle is going to work over a whole season with summer preparation (although euro takes a lot of time away). In the past he was slightly stubborn about his tactical approach and I could see him both wreck the league or fail miserably. I tend to believe it's going to be the latter. Both Pogba and Evra have said that MU's training is holidays compare to what they're doing with Juventus. Take what you want about it. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 18 2016 01:11 smr wrote: Could anybody please summarize what media/liverpool fans etc think about Klopp after his first few months? What I hear in Germany is often: - With PL having no pause during the winter he's had no training time to make his team understand the way he wants to play. Big changes can only be expected next season. - PL is tactically far behind Bundesliga etc and most players aren't even fit enough to run more than 60 minutes. Klopp can't have success in these circumstances. Most of it is defense by Dortmund fans who see the fault with Pool instead of Klopp but I guess it could be the other way around in England? Most things I saw were just: "trololololololol mignolet so bad" but that cannot be the whole story. Could be 95% tho. I have been hearing a lot of "Liverpool just isn't good enough", and this is most definitely correct. Mignolet is consistently awful at everything except for direct shot-stopping and Liverpool's offense is weak and inconsistent. Klopp needs a summer to actually make some serious moves and train a little before we can properly judge his performance. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18775 Posts
People keep thinking BVB was a thing out of nowhere, Klopp had years in preparation in Dortmund. Give the guy years, not months. | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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Azza
China650 Posts
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