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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 04 2015 17:22 GMT
#2801
On October 05 2015 01:50 BlackCompany wrote:
Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion

In current state, Bayern is clearly No1 in the world. Even ManU, ManC or Barca would concede 5 goals in munich right now. Next month probably not anymore when other teams have better shape and/or Bayern not in top-shape like now.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
October 04 2015 17:22 GMT
#2802
On October 05 2015 02:22 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 01:50 BlackCompany wrote:
Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion

In current state, Bayern is clearly No1 in the world. Even ManU, ManC or Barca would concede 5 goals in munich right now. Next month probably not anymore when other teams have better shape and/or Bayern not in top-shape like now.


Barca would score 7 goals though
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 04 2015 17:25 GMT
#2803
On October 05 2015 02:22 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 02:22 Dingodile wrote:
On October 05 2015 01:50 BlackCompany wrote:
Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion

In current state, Bayern is clearly No1 in the world. Even ManU, ManC or Barca would concede 5 goals in munich right now. Next month probably not anymore when other teams have better shape and/or Bayern not in top-shape like now.


Barca would score 7 goals though

Are we talking about the Barca that lost 1-4 vs Celta Vigo? That Barca that lost 1-2 vs Sevilla? Or that Barca that barely won 2-1 vs Leverkusen who are just average in german league atm?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 17:33:20
October 04 2015 17:31 GMT
#2804
Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Link

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 04 2015 17:32 GMT
#2805
Aaaaand Bundesliga is over ~.~
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 04 2015 17:37 GMT
#2806
Rodgers out, finally !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2015 17:38 GMT
#2807
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 18:10:27
October 04 2015 18:06 GMT
#2808
On October 05 2015 02:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/650724233434263552


Good. He just wasn't doing well enough. Liverpool definitely has enough talent to be a quality team, but he wasn't able to get them to actually perform.

Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion


First, I just want to mention that back in 2012/2013 I called Bayern winning the Treble and winning at least the next 3 Bundesliga titles, maybe the next 5. I'm 3/5 of the way there.

Second, I've come to the conclusion that no one in the English-speaking media that talks about the Bundesliga has a fucking clue what they're talking about. First, we heard last year that BVB had a legitimate chance to beat Bayern to the title at the beginning of the season (LOL no. All signs pointed to the fact that they didn't). Then, we heard BS about there maybe being an actual title race this season, and that Wolfsburg were the most likely challengers. Again, both of these ideas are completely ridiculous. Bayern only got better from last year and Wolfsburg got significantly worse.

Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit that Bayern is guaranteed to win at least 4 out of the next 5 Bundesliga titles, and that it will be a major problem for the Bundesliga's competitiveness, quality, and popularity. Even if the rest of the league is very interesting (if you dropped Bayern from the league, BVB's start has been fantastic, and the whole rest of the league is extremely competitive), no one gives a shit when the league title is decided on Match Day 8.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#2809
Klopp to Liverpool. This was their best performance in weeks lol so i was assume possibly they were scared Mourinho gets axed and both Chelsea and Liverpool in search of a new manager and Chelsea would get priority due to bigger club ?

I mean Klopp would go to Liverpool imo and will, but im sure he would have went to Chelsea over them too if we got rid of Mourinho last night xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2015 18:12 GMT
#2810
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 04 2015 18:13 GMT
#2811
According to report yeah, Klopp signed a deal last night xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 04 2015 18:17 GMT
#2812
Someone is shocked.

Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 04 2015 18:20 GMT
#2813
Haha wtf Henry and Carragher is like ermmmmm
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 04 2015 18:23 GMT
#2814
On October 05 2015 03:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 02:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/650724233434263552


Good. He just wasn't doing well enough. Liverpool definitely has enough talent to be a quality team, but he wasn't able to get them to actually perform.

Show nested quote +
Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion


First, I just want to mention that back in 2012/2013 I called Bayern winning the Treble and winning at least the next 3 Bundesliga titles, maybe the next 5. I'm 3/5 of the way there.

Second, I've come to the conclusion that no one in the English-speaking media that talks about the Bundesliga has a fucking clue what they're talking about. First, we heard last year that BVB had a legitimate chance to beat Bayern to the title at the beginning of the season (LOL no. All signs pointed to the fact that they didn't). Then, we heard BS about there maybe being an actual title race this season, and that Wolfsburg were the most likely challengers. Again, both of these ideas are completely ridiculous. Bayern only got better from last year and Wolfsburg got significantly worse.

Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit that Bayern is guaranteed to win at least 4 out of the next 5 Bundesliga titles, and that it will be a major problem for the Bundesliga's competitiveness, quality, and popularity. Even if the rest of the league is very interesting (if you dropped Bayern from the league, BVB's start has been fantastic, and the whole rest of the league is extremely competitive), no one gives a shit when the league title is decided on Match Day 8.

Well yeah, it's a problem the league has and we will not get rid of it unless we say e.g. 50 million salary tops for all players. But then the league looses its competitiveness in europe so we are fucked again.
Bayern just demolished the only other team that looked really good in the league till now, Wolfsburg without DeBruyne is a mess, Leverkusen and Gladbach are struggeling. Schalke is doing well but they are so easily tilted that they will never win the title. Dortmund just got put into their place, i don't see a lot changing in the next years. Will take some time till Bayern has their guard down again so Dortmund 2.0 can happen like when they got double championchips.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 04 2015 18:40 GMT
#2815
1-0 Real in Madrid derby. 8 minutes player. Cross in and sick header.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 18:52:58
October 04 2015 18:40 GMT
#2816
Fantastic Benzema header.

Ramos fucks up and gives away a penalty. Griezmann with the penalty, SAVED BY NAVAS!
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 04 2015 19:12 GMT
#2817
gl klopp! nice to see action!

As I sais months ago, going to liverpool is a mistake if he doesnt the same experience like he had at BvB (buying unknown player, excellent development within 1-2 seasons then you have to sell them as top players like lewa and götze).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 19:15:11
October 04 2015 19:13 GMT
#2818
On October 05 2015 03:23 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 03:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On October 05 2015 02:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/650724233434263552


Good. He just wasn't doing well enough. Liverpool definitely has enough talent to be a quality team, but he wasn't able to get them to actually perform.

Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion


First, I just want to mention that back in 2012/2013 I called Bayern winning the Treble and winning at least the next 3 Bundesliga titles, maybe the next 5. I'm 3/5 of the way there.

Second, I've come to the conclusion that no one in the English-speaking media that talks about the Bundesliga has a fucking clue what they're talking about. First, we heard last year that BVB had a legitimate chance to beat Bayern to the title at the beginning of the season (LOL no. All signs pointed to the fact that they didn't). Then, we heard BS about there maybe being an actual title race this season, and that Wolfsburg were the most likely challengers. Again, both of these ideas are completely ridiculous. Bayern only got better from last year and Wolfsburg got significantly worse.

Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit that Bayern is guaranteed to win at least 4 out of the next 5 Bundesliga titles, and that it will be a major problem for the Bundesliga's competitiveness, quality, and popularity. Even if the rest of the league is very interesting (if you dropped Bayern from the league, BVB's start has been fantastic, and the whole rest of the league is extremely competitive), no one gives a shit when the league title is decided on Match Day 8.

Well yeah, it's a problem the league has and we will not get rid of it unless we say e.g. 50 million salary tops for all players. But then the league looses its competitiveness in europe so we are fucked again.
Bayern just demolished the only other team that looked really good in the league till now, Wolfsburg without DeBruyne is a mess, Leverkusen and Gladbach are struggeling. Schalke is doing well but they are so easily tilted that they will never win the title. Dortmund just got put into their place, i don't see a lot changing in the next years. Will take some time till Bayern has their guard down again so Dortmund 2.0 can happen like when they got double championchips.


Bayern just does not drop games against low/mid tier teams anymore. You can dislike Bayern and say its all because of money and it is true to some degree but you have to respect that mentality. I am Bayern fan for around 20 years now and i have never seen a team like the Heynkes/Pep one. They are relentless in any game that matters, they look prepared against anyone and the club finally realised that a coach can win you games.
Sadly it doesnt matter what Wolfsburg or Dortmund do. To win the title you have to win around 20 to 25 games even if they do their job and win both games who is gonna take the other 5+ games of Bayern?

The Problem for average quality of Bundesliga is not Bayern. If Bayern wants a player they compete with 5 to 10 clubs with more money. The average Bundesliga club compeds with 50 to 100 clubs with more money. If you want Bundesliga to be more cloes and exciting you have to do something about the crazy tv deals other leagues get.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
October 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#2819
I think Simeone is too smart to not take advantage of Carvajal's injury, Arbeloa is horrible and it is very dangerous for Real. I hope to see Bale substituting Isco which was pretty lost in the right side. Correa was impressive 1st half, all the others, no.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 19:36:05
October 04 2015 19:28 GMT
#2820
On October 05 2015 04:13 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 03:23 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 05 2015 03:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On October 05 2015 02:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/650724233434263552


Good. He just wasn't doing well enough. Liverpool definitely has enough talent to be a quality team, but he wasn't able to get them to actually perform.

Did anyone of you really think there was a 1% chance that Bayern would not win this season? Lol even if BVB would win today and not embarras themselves then Bayern will still be champion


First, I just want to mention that back in 2012/2013 I called Bayern winning the Treble and winning at least the next 3 Bundesliga titles, maybe the next 5. I'm 3/5 of the way there.

Second, I've come to the conclusion that no one in the English-speaking media that talks about the Bundesliga has a fucking clue what they're talking about. First, we heard last year that BVB had a legitimate chance to beat Bayern to the title at the beginning of the season (LOL no. All signs pointed to the fact that they didn't). Then, we heard BS about there maybe being an actual title race this season, and that Wolfsburg were the most likely challengers. Again, both of these ideas are completely ridiculous. Bayern only got better from last year and Wolfsburg got significantly worse.

Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit that Bayern is guaranteed to win at least 4 out of the next 5 Bundesliga titles, and that it will be a major problem for the Bundesliga's competitiveness, quality, and popularity. Even if the rest of the league is very interesting (if you dropped Bayern from the league, BVB's start has been fantastic, and the whole rest of the league is extremely competitive), no one gives a shit when the league title is decided on Match Day 8.

Well yeah, it's a problem the league has and we will not get rid of it unless we say e.g. 50 million salary tops for all players. But then the league looses its competitiveness in europe so we are fucked again.
Bayern just demolished the only other team that looked really good in the league till now, Wolfsburg without DeBruyne is a mess, Leverkusen and Gladbach are struggeling. Schalke is doing well but they are so easily tilted that they will never win the title. Dortmund just got put into their place, i don't see a lot changing in the next years. Will take some time till Bayern has their guard down again so Dortmund 2.0 can happen like when they got double championchips.


Bayern just does not drop games against low/mid tier teams anymore. You can dislike Bayern and say its all because of money and it is true to some degree but you have to respect that mentality. I am Bayern fan for around 20 years now and i have never seen a team like the Heynkes/Pep one. They are relentless in any game that matters, they look prepared against anyone and the club finally realised that a coach can win you games.
Sadly it doesnt matter what Wolfsburg or Dortmund do. To win the title you have to win around 20 to 25 games even if they do their job and win both games who is gonna take the other 5+ games of Bayern?

The Problem for average quality of Bundesliga is not Bayern. If Bayern wants a player they compete with 5 to 10 clubs with more money. The average Bundesliga club compeds with 50 to 100 clubs with more money. If you want Bundesliga to be more cloes and exciting you have to do something about the crazy tv deals other leagues get.

I do not think Bayern only wins because of money, sorry if i made that impression. Of course money helps a lot but its also the fact that players know they compete and win titles there.
yeah its the insane quality of players has that makes them win and not drop games but not every team can afford that. And in the end you still have to beat Bayern which does not happen unless they have an off day and you have a good day. The competition for places 2-18 is fun and interesting but Bayern is a league above.
obviously a huge TV deal helps, its slowly growing but catching up when 1,5 billions behind is incredibly hard

Edit: oh and i think the average quality of the Bundesliga is fine, not as deep as e.g. Premier League, but still good. The main problem the Bundesliga has is that there is no permanent second really strong team. Spain has Real and Barca (and Athleitca i guess), England has Chelsea and City (+Arsenal and ManU kind of), Italy has Juve, Roma and Napoli. In Germany it's always up&down, its Bayern + somewhere else. One season Stuttgart wins, then it's Bayern for some years, then Wolfsburg does a surprise championship. The 2 years of Dortmund doing back to back championships was the clostest we have been to establishing a second strong team in quite some years. Sadly that only lasted 2 years and now we are back to Bayern just winning. I'm actually interested in seeing who will be the next one to put them to a real test
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