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Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
October 03 2015 18:54 GMT
#2701
I don't understand Chelsea.

So many players are just not doing much and a few are shockingly bad. I know that didn't get Stone from Everton, but they look like they need two starting defenders, a holding mid, an attacking mid, and a second striker that can score.



zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 03 2015 18:54 GMT
#2702
get fucked chelsea lol
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 18:59:07
October 03 2015 18:55 GMT
#2703
On October 04 2015 03:50 OceanLab wrote:
where can i find that interview :D

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 03 2015 19:11 GMT
#2704
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
October 03 2015 19:17 GMT
#2705
Chelsea fan here.

I think the situation at Chelsea is simple. They are just simply not good, even when they won the league last season.

Chelsea is a team that doesn't knows how to attack. They don't know how to counter attack. Their goals have often been moment of brilliance, set pieces, defensive errors, or gifts from referee. Seldom were they from a solid attacking plan.

1. Hazard on left, pass back to Dave. Dave can't dribble for nuts, so he passes to matic or fab in the middle. There's no good openings, so they pass to willian, who feeds ivanovic on the overlap. Ivanovic crosses and defense clears. Back to square one.

2. Hazard cuts in from left, encounters a wall of defenders in front and passes backwards to fab. Fab has no openings and passes to ivanovic. Ivanovic crosses and defense clears again.

3. Willian from the right. Can't beat his defender so he passes backwards to ivanovic. Maybe ivanovic crosses again. Or maybe he passes to Fab in the middle. Fab attempts a lobbed pass to that sole Chelsea shirt in the box who is surrounded by 3 defenders, but it is overhit or a defender heads away.

4. Hazard cuts from the left, feeds Dave who is in a good position on the overlap. But Dave doesn't believe in his left food, neither does he know how to beat his defender. So he passes to nearby Oscar who is standing outside the box. Oscar feigns, shift the ball to the right, and shoots. But it is blocked by the defender.

Chelsea won the title not because they were good. It was because their rivals were terrible. It was a gifted title. But now the rivals have woken up, while Chelsea is still using the same squad, the same set up.

Chelsea can't attack. That's ok because if you have a great defense, you can win on the back of it. That's ok because if control the midfield, you can both defend and force goals. But nope, Chelsea's midfield often gets overrun. You have just 1 matic as your wall. Sometimes mourinho plays Mikel in tandem, but Mikel is no different from a dustbin in the field. Often mourinho puts Fab along matic, with willian/Oscar further up. Fab does nothing for defense. Fab can only boss the midfield when his team controls possession, but matic can't do it alone. So we struggle to boss the midfield. Matic gets easily bypassed, our defenders are not protected. We then resort to desperate or fortuitous defending. Last season it worked, now it doesn't.

I don't quite blame Chelsea's defenders because they're often exposed by the non existent midfield, except for individual mistakes. Personally for now, I'd prefer putting Dave at right back (because ivanovic has individually been poor), and put baba at left back. That's because I think Chelsea needs an attacking edge from their left back, while I think Dave will be more comfortable attacking from the right. Midfield I'd ask for matic loftus/ramires midfield, because they provide more steel there.

The current squad doesn't suit to mourinho's style of play. There are too many finesse/technical players, too few athletic ones. Mourinho's style is all about physically overpowering the opponent in their half, and scoring via relentless battering. You can't do that when most of your players are light weight.

Chelsea 1.0 and inter were a siege machine. Mourinho's RM were based on ultra fast attacking plays from CR7, di maria, Benzema/higuain and ozil. This Chelsea? Headless chickens.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 03 2015 19:37 GMT
#2706
Wut

Chelsea scored the second most goals in the league last season and had some fantastic attacking displays. Saying they can't attack just because they're in hilariously bad form is just crazy, but something is clearly not working.

Have to wonder what effect José's antics have on the squad. Matic only got 27 minutes of playing time today, and got subbed after they got killed on the counter. Ivanovic and Terry look so over the hill it's not even funny and Hazard is still on vacation.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
October 03 2015 20:09 GMT
#2707
On October 04 2015 04:37 NuclearJudas wrote:
Wut

Chelsea scored the second most goals in the league last season and had some fantastic attacking displays. Saying they can't attack just because they're in hilariously bad form is just crazy, but something is clearly not working.

Have to wonder what effect José's antics have on the squad. Matic only got 27 minutes of playing time today, and got subbed after they got killed on the counter. Ivanovic and Terry look so over the hill it's not even funny and Hazard is still on vacation.


Chelsea plat beautiful football in the first half of the season. Second half, they grinded results, or they had hazard who was mad.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 03 2015 20:15 GMT
#2708
Man Aguero its such a great player, im pretty sure he is going to kill it on the WC and the Copa America, im dead sure he will a pair on the fina.... Oh wait.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 03 2015 20:28 GMT
#2709
Has Mou ever spoken about actual football? All I hear is blaming ref, mental stuff (his forte) and other random stuff like bad schedule or blaming some player. Never heard about tactics or explaining why he played in that way or made that sub at that moment.
You can hear other coaches talk after a game and think holy shit I never noticed that during the game, or woah he clearly studied the rivals strategy.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 03 2015 20:56 GMT
#2710
On October 04 2015 05:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
Has Mou ever spoken about actual football? All I hear is blaming ref, mental stuff (his forte) and other random stuff like bad schedule or blaming some player. Never heard about tactics or explaining why he played in that way or made that sub at that moment.
You can hear other coaches talk after a game and think holy shit I never noticed that during the game, or woah he clearly studied the rivals strategy.

Last game yes, "our performance in the 1st half was dreadful i rate it -1" went on to say about how he told them how Newcastle take corners, every routine was done and set yet they conceded from one. So yes he does
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 03 2015 22:00 GMT
#2711
On October 04 2015 05:56 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
Has Mou ever spoken about actual football? All I hear is blaming ref, mental stuff (his forte) and other random stuff like bad schedule or blaming some player. Never heard about tactics or explaining why he played in that way or made that sub at that moment.
You can hear other coaches talk after a game and think holy shit I never noticed that during the game, or woah he clearly studied the rivals strategy.

Last game yes, "our performance in the 1st half was dreadful i rate it -1" went on to say about how he told them how Newcastle take corners, every routine was done and set yet they conceded from one. So yes he does


That's not really the kinda nuance he was talking about. I read his shoes tirade. You could actually be suckered into being sympathetic.

Sadly he set himself up for this and I feel bad for the team because they are good players we've seen that. But they are not great because they haven't evolved.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 03 2015 22:43 GMT
#2712
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 03 2015 22:47 GMT
#2713
man that mourinho interview is so sad, it's still early though, not THAT bad
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 03 2015 22:59 GMT
#2714
It's right what he says, they sack the best manager the club has had it is true no arguments. Doesn't mean that whoever comes in can't be as good so that a fair comment.

Only thing i am annoyed at is the fact Ivanovic has played 65 consecutive premier league games...haha and we have never changed shape, always 4-2-3-1. Give me a 4-3-3 or a 4-4-2 lets try something different...
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2015 00:17 GMT
#2715
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2015 00:27 GMT
#2716
This is why this game needs instant replays:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
October 04 2015 00:56 GMT
#2717
Mourhino sees what he wants. He can blame the refs and say they are afraid to award them anything, but will turn a blind eye last week to Costa. I hate guys like him, sure its his job and environment.

I love it when clubs like this fall from grace for awhile. But they will recover unlike Liverpool.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
October 04 2015 12:43 GMT
#2718
Dick Advocaat - Sunderland boss quits Premier League
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 04 2015 13:04 GMT
#2719
Said he didn't want any financial settlement "test to his character" lol he quit club after staying on with no intention of helping them if shit went bad. Seems pretty bad xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 04 2015 13:09 GMT
#2720
Without Big Dick, Sunderland would already be in the Championship, so he did what he could for that sorry bunch. Dude was planning to retire, but was convinced to stay on. Quitting early lets someone come in and put their stamp on the club before the next transfer window.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
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