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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 24 2018 18:42 GMT
#4201
On October 24 2018 23:50 farvacola wrote:
Risky is gonna kick scooter his way into middleage in style, if not also with a handicap :D


Isn't scootering enough of a handicap?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 25 2018 23:15 GMT
#4202
On October 25 2018 03:42 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 23:50 farvacola wrote:
Risky is gonna kick scooter his way into middleage in style, if not also with a handicap :D


Isn't scootering enough of a handicap?

If it’s not on it’s own, it’ll become one after it takes you out at the ankles one of these days.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 27 2018 04:49 GMT
#4203
Damn really feeling the love here ;-,;;;

@IgnE ahh gotcha, that makes sense. Yeah I guess I'll try to keep at it conservatively and talk to a doctor/PT if anything seems off.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 17:19:36
November 01 2018 10:39 GMT
#4204
Ugh so I had what I thought was tennis elbow, but when I do the tennis elbow stretches, I don't feel it in the place that is sore. I can see in pictures and feel the stretch at the lateral epicondyle part or whatever. However, the issue feels like it's this band between the tip of my elbow and the lateral epicondyle itself. I feel it especially keenly when my hands are palm down on my desk/keycard and my elbow is bent, and I flex my wrist down. Does anybody have any idea what this is?

It's killing me that only tennis elbow comes up, but I'm so sure it's not that. It's like if you keep your arm straight, there's are two bumps: tip of elbow, and another kind of bump (two small bumps, where bones connect maybe??) on your thumb side, and the tendon is between those two bony parts.

Would help so much if anybody knew what that was and how to fix it ><
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 01 2018 14:14 GMT
#4205
use the name of the actual bones
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 01 2018 17:23 GMT
#4206
Err, it feels like a band of tissue/tendon that goes between the lateral epicondyle and the olecranon...I think. If you flex your bicep like you're curling, it's just inside the outside bump of the elbow and is underneath/goes a bit behind the elbow to the tricep side.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16862 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 17:55:36
November 01 2018 17:38 GMT
#4207
On November 01 2018 19:39 Aerisky wrote:
Would help so much if anybody knew what that was and how to fix it ><

Get an appointment with an orthopaedic surgeon or general physician and get it checked out. ask around.... having a good friend network is a great way to find a good DOC.

On November 01 2018 19:39 Aerisky wrote: I feel it especially keenly when my hands are palm down on my desk/keycard and my elbow is bent, and I flex my wrist down. Does anybody have any idea what this is?

generally the lateral epicondyle is stretched the most with your arm straight... not bent. you should probably realize this from the recommended tennis elbow stretches. the medial epicondyle gets its biggest stretch with the elbows bent 90 degrees.

Both the lateral and medial epicondyles offer the least amount of leverage when your wrists are bent. When people's wrists are bent 90 degree and they perform some twisting or pulling motion ... around objects.. like a mechanic working on a car engine in tight places... this is when you put your lateral and medial epicondyles are biggest risk to injury. keep your wrists unbent as much as you can. If you pay attention carefully to your body you can even feel the lack of leverage your epicondyles have when you bend your wrist 90 degrees and you try to use your strength. Every degree of bend in your wrist takes away a little bit of leverage and puts more pressure on your epicondyles. Try to keep your wrists straight.

On November 01 2018 19:39 Aerisky wrote:It's like if you keep your arm straight, there's are two bumps: tip of elbow, and another kind of bump (two small bumps, where bones connect maybe??) on your thumb side, and the tendon is between those two bony parts.

bones do not 'connect'. again man. cut with the self diagnosis and see a DOC.
if you can't afford a DR go to a physiotherapist.

if i were to rank medical professionals for helping you with this issue it'd go like this.
#1. Orthopaedic Surgeon. #2. General Physician MD #3. Physiotherapist.

avoid chiropractors unless one of the 3 on the list i provided is overseeing your progress and recommends a chiropractor.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 02 2018 23:56 GMT
#4208
RIP physician just said "it's a sore tendon, rest it". Makes sense I guess I guess it wasn't tennis elbow after all, since they didn't recommend any stretches (vs tennis elbow seems to have a ton of different possible stretches).

They couldn't really come up with a name for the pathology or anything either, though. I think it's actually just part of my triceps tendon, but doesn't matter, will just rest it >.<
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
November 03 2018 07:41 GMT
#4209
Physicians are idiots when it comes to being a healthy happy athlete. Good physical therapists are worth their weight in gold but few and far between. A really good physician will recommend you to a really good PT
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 07:50:04
November 03 2018 07:45 GMT
#4210
On November 01 2018 19:39 Aerisky wrote:
Ugh so I had what I thought was tennis elbow, but when I do the tennis elbow stretches, I don't feel it in the place that is sore. I can see in pictures and feel the stretch at the lateral epicondyle part or whatever. However, the issue feels like it's this band between the tip of my elbow and the lateral epicondyle itself. I feel it especially keenly when my hands are palm down on my desk/keycard and my elbow is bent, and I flex my wrist down. Does anybody have any idea what this is?

It's killing me that only tennis elbow comes up, but I'm so sure it's not that. It's like if you keep your arm straight, there's are two bumps: tip of elbow, and another kind of bump (two small bumps, where bones connect maybe??) on your thumb side, and the tendon is between those two bony parts.

Would help so much if anybody knew what that was and how to fix it ><


There's a fuck ton of muscles around your elbow joint and a lot of them act differently based on whether your wrist/shoulder/elbow are in flexion or extension. And sometimes it's just compensating for something up or down stream. Either do a lot of research and self testing or find someone knowledgeable.

Also, rest rarely fixes things, and even more rarely fixes them permanently. Rehab is the best medicine for nearly every problem. Find the root cause and address it properly.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16862 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 08:29:05
November 03 2018 08:24 GMT
#4211
On November 03 2018 08:56 Aerisky wrote:
RIP physician just said "it's a sore tendon, rest it". Makes sense I guess I guess it wasn't tennis elbow after all, since they didn't recommend any stretches (vs tennis elbow seems to have a ton of different possible stretches).

They couldn't really come up with a name for the pathology or anything either, though. I think it's actually just part of my triceps tendon, but doesn't matter, will just rest it >.<

find another doctor. find an orthopaedic surgeon. its up to you to direct your recovery process.
if you can't find either of those find a sports medicine clinic. find a physiotherapist.

don't quit just because some DR only half listened to you.

"rest" will only take you so far. if you return to the activity that caused the problem.. then what? what are you doing to prevent the same injury from occurring when you return to the activity that caused the problem?

when you find a decent doctor or orthopaedic surgeon go into the appointment with a piece of paper and a set of written questions and points you'd like to make during the appointment.

On November 03 2018 16:41 decafchicken wrote:
Physicians are idiots when it comes to being a healthy happy athlete. Good physical therapists are worth their weight in gold but few and far between. A really good physician will recommend you to a really good PT

you have to go Doctor shopping to find a good one. A Doctor who is the head of a sports medicine clinic is generally excellent for those that want to be a "healthy happy athlete".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Pulimuli1
Profile Joined August 2017
33 Posts
November 03 2018 16:02 GMT
#4212
On November 03 2018 08:56 Aerisky wrote:
RIP physician just said "it's a sore tendon, rest it". Makes sense I guess I guess it wasn't tennis elbow after all, since they didn't recommend any stretches (vs tennis elbow seems to have a ton of different possible stretches).

They couldn't really come up with a name for the pathology or anything either, though. I think it's actually just part of my triceps tendon, but doesn't matter, will just rest it >.<


i get some pain in that area when doing straight arm gymnastics strength elements like iron cross or planche on rings. For me its only when doing the excersize and stops right after and is a matter of the joints/tendons being stressed. Not sure what you did to provoke it but usually high reps of flexion/extension of the elbow will make it feel better.

If it hurts all the time then you probably have stressed it too much over time
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 05 2018 00:11 GMT
#4213
That's a good point. Rest will treat the symptoms temporarily but not hitting it, but over the long term, there must be something I'm doing on a consistent basis improperly to have gotten those symptoms. I've been going to the gym recently without any issues, for what it's worth. Might be more related to RSI, because I've had a lot of late nights the last couple weeks, with shit posture and little sleep. It started getting better almost as soon as I got some proper sleep/stopped spending all those hours at a desk.

In general will try to be mindful of what I'm doing to potentially cause this, and will def find an actual, legitimate orthopaedic surgeon/doctor if necessary. Thanks guys!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 06 2018 09:04 GMT
#4214
On November 03 2018 17:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:56 Aerisky wrote:
RIP physician just said "it's a sore tendon, rest it". Makes sense I guess I guess it wasn't tennis elbow after all, since they didn't recommend any stretches (vs tennis elbow seems to have a ton of different possible stretches).

They couldn't really come up with a name for the pathology or anything either, though. I think it's actually just part of my triceps tendon, but doesn't matter, will just rest it >.<

find another doctor. find an orthopaedic surgeon. its up to you to direct your recovery process.
if you can't find either of those find a sports medicine clinic. find a physiotherapist.

don't quit just because some DR only half listened to you.

"rest" will only take you so far. if you return to the activity that caused the problem.. then what? what are you doing to prevent the same injury from occurring when you return to the activity that caused the problem?

when you find a decent doctor or orthopaedic surgeon go into the appointment with a piece of paper and a set of written questions and points you'd like to make during the appointment.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 16:41 decafchicken wrote:
Physicians are idiots when it comes to being a healthy happy athlete. Good physical therapists are worth their weight in gold but few and far between. A really good physician will recommend you to a really good PT

you have to go Doctor shopping to find a good one. A Doctor who is the head of a sports medicine clinic is generally excellent for those that want to be a "healthy happy athlete".

He's not going to find an orthopedic surgeon without a referral in the US at least. Even if he did, a surgeon is just going to tell him "yeah sure if it's bad enough i'll operate lol meantime find a PT"

Best route to go is to research physical therapists in your area, find one who works with younger populations, ideally with athletes, and get your primary care doc to write you a referral there. Your other points though are completely valid.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 23 2018 20:49 GMT
#4215
Why the heck are fractional weight plates so expensive???
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-25 00:32:32
November 25 2018 00:31 GMT
#4216
On November 24 2018 05:49 mordek wrote:
Why the heck are fractional weight plates so expensive???


calibration/machining tolerances and they're a niche product. I've considered picking up a set a bunch of times though, especially because my current gym only has one set of 2.5's in the entire place atm. Let me know if you find any decent deals.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
November 25 2018 05:52 GMT
#4217
On November 24 2018 05:49 mordek wrote:
Why the heck are fractional weight plates so expensive???

This is why I only take 10kg jumps
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 26 2018 13:27 GMT
#4218
There's a dude on the Starting Strength forums (Dan Miller, "microplates") that does it on the side and has a bunch of endorsements from customers. I'll let you know how it turns out. As it stands it seems you get more weight pairs for less total cost than anywhere else I've seen.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
November 29 2018 17:06 GMT
#4219
Apparently my body still works. PR 5RM squat at 188kg/415lb and PR block C&J at 161kg. Competing next weekend at the American Open Championships
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 05 2018 01:01 GMT
#4220
On November 26 2018 22:27 mordek wrote:
There's a dude on the Starting Strength forums (Dan Miller, "microplates") that does it on the side and has a bunch of endorsements from customers. I'll let you know how it turns out. As it stands it seems you get more weight pairs for less total cost than anywhere else I've seen.

Weights arrived within a week as described at a significant discount to anywhere else I saw online, FYI.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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