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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 08:39:50
April 22 2015 08:39 GMT
#3601
You can blame Ancelotti for injuries. He played 4 months with the same players without any rotation. Since January the injures began. L.Enrique didn't repeat any startup until January and players are fresher.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2015 09:02 GMT
#3602
Why repeat the line up all the time at Real anyway haha. Have the best squad in the game no? Easy to rotate that squad imo
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
April 22 2015 10:58 GMT
#3603
Best squad... not really. The gap between the first 11 and their substitutes is huge. Maybe Varane is the only good substitute and he is defender. The other options are the big dissapiontments - Illaramendi, Khedira, Silva, Coentrao aand Chicharito. I guess Arbeloa is decent, but again, he is defender.
This is what you get for spending 170 million euro on 2 players... Some teams can build completely new squad with that amount of money.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2015 11:04 GMT
#3604
Arebloa is dog shit, Liverpool sold him thats how bad he is. He is utter crap. How this guy plays in Real Madrid is beyond me.

There squad is sick and rotation should be used so easily. Isco Rodriguez Modric Illarameni Khedira Lucas-Silva Kroos, 7 more than good enough midfielders to rotate to beat the likes of Eibar and Malaga. Yes you might need the full strength of Modric Kroos Rodriguez midfield vs Bayern/Barcelona but they dont play them every week. Thats the problem with Ancelotti he hasn't used the others in games to get them feeling the need of being wanted and relied on.

I mean a forward line of Bale Benzema Ronaldo Hernandez Jese also seems good enough to beat the likes of Malga and Eibar week in week out with rotation xD
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 11:14:09
April 22 2015 11:13 GMT
#3605
I actually agree with Pande on this one, RM hasn't used rotations enough and is now paying the price. And Arbeloa is awful.

That said, Málaga is way better than Eibar and a fine team
Revolutionist fan
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 11:40:59
April 22 2015 11:21 GMT
#3606
The "likes" of Malaga beat Barcelona on their own stadium. Many people underestimate the "average" Spanish teams, but most of them are good enough to take points from the best teams. We are talking about the strongest league right now. Illaramendi and Silva are terrible. Illaramendi showed nothing but bad games for the last 2 years. Silva has even worse record for the short time he was in the club. Khedira doesn't have the motivation to play for the club and that makes him liability for the team. Jese Rodriguez is not the same after the injury, he will need more time to recover.
The reliable midfield players that Ancelotti can use are - Modric, Isco, James, Kroos(note that none of them is defensive midfielder). That's it. In the attack it's even worse. Bale, Benzema and Ronaldo can't be raplaced.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 11:41:08
April 22 2015 11:39 GMT
#3607
Malaga is 7th and they got a Win and a Draw in the two matches against Barcelona. They beat Valencia too. You shouldnt rotate too much against them. (This season the teams bellow top 5 are quite dangerous: Celta Vigo, Malaga, Villareal, Athletic, etc.).

But there are low table teams like Eibar, Cordoba, Almeria, Granada, etc where Ancelotti really could have given more minutes to Chicharrito, Illara or Coentrao.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2015 11:56 GMT
#3608
Didn't mean Eibar and Malaga are the same team just that when you're REAL MADRID xD you can rotate vs said team when your bringing in the likes of Hernandez instead of Benzema or Rodriguez on the one wing instead of Ronaldo/Bale. Or Modric rested for Illaramendi etc.

Burnley beat Man City too doesn't mean Burnley are on a level even close to them? Malaga beating Barcelona in a one off game means nothing. Sitting 7th in the League also means nothing at any level.
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 22 2015 12:48 GMT
#3609
On April 22 2015 20:56 Pandemona wrote:
Didn't mean Eibar and Malaga are the same team just that when you're REAL MADRID xD you can rotate vs said team when your bringing in the likes of Hernandez instead of Benzema or Rodriguez on the one wing instead of Ronaldo/Bale. Or Modric rested for Illaramendi etc.

Burnley beat Man City too doesn't mean Burnley are on a level even close to them? Malaga beating Barcelona in a one off game means nothing. Sitting 7th in the League also means nothing at any level.

I'm not saying that Ancelotti couldn't have rotated more, but even the very best squads have to take every game seriously or they get in trouble, changing players reduces the likelyhood of you translating your better squad into points and then factor in that player performances are not a constant due to many reasons and that Ancelotti needs every point he can get.

You are right that being 7th in a league means nothing, being the better team only means you win more on average, but in a single game a lot can happen. Just look at cup games with lower league teams.

Also, who knows how much of an influence Perez has on who plays. Probably a lot more than you would want Abramovich to have :p
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 22 2015 12:55 GMT
#3610
On April 22 2015 20:04 Pandemona wrote:
Arebloa is dog shit, Liverpool sold him thats how bad he is. He is utter crap. How this guy plays in Real Madrid is beyond me.


So Suarez is dog shit?!
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 13:01:25
April 22 2015 13:01 GMT
#3611
Well i missed out a few words there but i mean they didn't even use him and sold him. So zzz to you

I'll get you back when 37 year old Drogba scores against you on Sunday XD
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18366 Posts
April 22 2015 13:44 GMT
#3612
On April 22 2015 21:48 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 20:56 Pandemona wrote:
Didn't mean Eibar and Malaga are the same team just that when you're REAL MADRID xD you can rotate vs said team when your bringing in the likes of Hernandez instead of Benzema or Rodriguez on the one wing instead of Ronaldo/Bale. Or Modric rested for Illaramendi etc.

Burnley beat Man City too doesn't mean Burnley are on a level even close to them? Malaga beating Barcelona in a one off game means nothing. Sitting 7th in the League also means nothing at any level.

I'm not saying that Ancelotti couldn't have rotated more, but even the very best squads have to take every game seriously or they get in trouble, changing players reduces the likelyhood of you translating your better squad into points and then factor in that player performances are not a constant due to many reasons and that Ancelotti needs every point he can get.

You are right that being 7th in a league means nothing, being the better team only means you win more on average, but in a single game a lot can happen. Just look at cup games with lower league teams.

Also, who knows how much of an influence Perez has on who plays. Probably a lot more than you would want Abramovich to have :p


No clue about politics in RM, but with the ridiculous number of matches at the top level of football, you either rotate, or set yourself more modest goals than winning everything. The latter is not an option for RM, so they have to rotate. Otherwise players WILL be fatigued by the end of the season and will get injuries or simply stop performing at their top level. And RM has simply done that badly. You could even argue that the reason their second squad looks so bad is because they simply never get given a real opportunity, and are not even used to playing in the team.

Sure, Bayern fucked up pretty badly vs. Porto in the away match, but they destroyed Porto at home without Ribery, Robben or Schweinsteiger.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 22 2015 14:29 GMT
#3613
Something that people forget is that Pep's teams always had some problems in away games.
With barca he'd get a draw or even lose most of the time and then dominate the opponent in camp nou, same thing now with bayern, shacktar/porto.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 22 2015 19:00 GMT
#3614
On April 22 2015 22:44 Acrofales wrote:
Sure, Bayern fucked up pretty badly vs. Porto in the away match, but they destroyed Porto at home without Ribery, Robben or Schweinsteiger.

Bayern and RM are in drastically different positions from the beginning of the season, you can't compare that at all.
Or wasn't that meant as an argument against Ancelotti? :p
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 22 2015 19:23 GMT
#3615



and currently trying desperately to get a second one
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 22 2015 19:32 GMT
#3616
On April 23 2015 04:23 sneirac wrote:
https://twitter.com/samuelJayC/status/590952440792481795


and currently trying desperately to get a second one


Obv he doesn't want to play against suarez again.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2737 Posts
April 22 2015 19:40 GMT
#3617
So... Ancelotti prefers Sergio Ramos as midfield to Illaramendi. Poor man.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 22 2015 19:52 GMT
#3618
Football is really a generous sport

that Chicharito managed to stay so many years at United and then got transfered to Real Madrid its something i will never understand (no, a goal in this match will not change a thing)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
XPA
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany242 Posts
April 22 2015 19:56 GMT
#3619
German Commentator: "They change a midfielder for a midfielder, so this substitution can´t be tactical, it´s just hoping that the new guy is better".
How the fuck do guys like this get jobs in football? (and he is the one that commentates every big match except for the national team...)
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 22 2015 20:09 GMT
#3620
On April 23 2015 04:56 XPA wrote:
German Commentator: "They change a midfielder for a midfielder, so this substitution can´t be tactical, it´s just hoping that the new guy is better".
How the fuck do guys like this get jobs in football? (and he is the one that commentates every big match except for the national team...)

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