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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 11 2014 01:52 GMT
#1601
Willy could have done better, but what keeper really expects Giroud to shoot from outside the box between defenders? Took a nasty dip too, I thought it was going over
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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
August 11 2014 07:22 GMT
#1602
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!
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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 11 2014 07:33 GMT
#1603
Where's our PL-Power-Rank Pandegod?
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
August 11 2014 08:08 GMT
#1604
On August 11 2014 16:22 ViperPL wrote:
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!


could be Van Gaal really wants to stick to his 3-5-2 formation in which Valencia would do better as a wingback than Rafael? and keeping Smalling means because he can cover both centreback and rightback when needed. Not sure but I do feel it's kinda weird also, while Rafael is not top class, he performs decently enough
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
August 11 2014 10:06 GMT
#1605
I wouldnt want to keep Rafael because of his disciplinary problems. But thats just me I guess.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
August 11 2014 10:52 GMT
#1606
--- Nuked ---
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 11:51:36
August 11 2014 11:51 GMT
#1607
Klose has retired from the german national team. Good decision.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
August 11 2014 12:08 GMT
#1608
This is the saddest day of my football following career. :'(
I am so happy he can retire with a title though.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 11 2014 12:20 GMT
#1609
Transfer News

Porto have completed the signing of Spanish defender Ivan Marcano from Rubin Kazan.

Everton have agreed a deal to bring Chelsea winger Christian Atsu to Goodison Park on a season-long loan

Manchester United are now 1/3 to sign Ajax defender Daley Blind

Manchester City have confirmed the signing of Eliaquim Mangala from Porto.

West Ham have made a bid for Sunderland striker Connor Wickham
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UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
August 11 2014 12:23 GMT
#1610
On August 11 2014 17:08 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 16:22 ViperPL wrote:
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!


could be Van Gaal really wants to stick to his 3-5-2 formation in which Valencia would do better as a wingback than Rafael? and keeping Smalling means because he can cover both centreback and rightback when needed. Not sure but I do feel it's kinda weird also, while Rafael is not top class, he performs decently enough


The concept of Valencia displacing Rafael makes me sick. Rafael is an incredible talent, really under-rated due to a string of injuries. Valencia even at his best was never Rafael's level and his form is so far very erratic. I'm also pretty worried how Van Gaal plans to fit in januzaj, he needs gametime at this point in his career and was showing signs of being a world beater, with the wing positions gone where will he start? RVP, Rooney, Welbeck will certainly be above him in the pecking order for number 9 and 10, with hernandez and/or James Wilson looking to get games in (also zaha as well maybe? which is what makes the "rumor" of Cavani so ridiculous). Then there's the number 8 Role, Mata is first with kagawa second, and Rooney probably 3rd(Fellini 4th if hes not sold!, also Herrera can play here too), so unless kagawa is sold, he won't get a look in there either, and even if Kag is sold, that's not a lot of games without UCL football. Then there is just wing backs maybe, but i really dont see him playing here.

I like what Van Gaals doing so far but it seems short sighted. SAF seemed to be the only one with the balls to sell rooney (or RVP would do too). It seems madness, but we should only have 1 sure starter for the striker role, makes squad selection much easier and can fund a good quality winger like di maria. We are gimping ourselves with this formation just to fit in rvp and rooney and at the cost of the development of good young players like januzaj, and also pushing Kagawa out of the team too.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
August 11 2014 12:28 GMT
#1611
Pande what was the code for the TL fantasy league again? :3
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Last Edited: 2014-08-11 12:30:12
August 11 2014 12:30 GMT
#1612
On August 11 2014 21:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
Pande what was the code for the TL fantasy league again? :3


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bluegarfield
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Singapore1128 Posts
August 11 2014 14:18 GMT
#1613
On August 11 2014 19:52 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 17:08 bluegarfield wrote:
On August 11 2014 16:22 ViperPL wrote:
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!


could be Van Gaal really wants to stick to his 3-5-2 formation in which Valencia would do better as a wingback than Rafael? and keeping Smalling means because he can cover both centreback and rightback when needed. Not sure but I do feel it's kinda weird also, while Rafael is not top class, he performs decently enough

Smalling cannot cover wing-back. I personally think the wing-back role is made for Rafael with how he's constantly trying to get forward from right-back, so I don't understand not wanting to keep him there. I guess the problem for Rafael is that Ashley Young seems to have caught Van Gaal's attention in the wing-back position, which means he and Valencia will be fighting for it. I'm told by my friend who is a Watford supporter that Young played wing-back for Watford back in the day, so maybe it isn't the strangest idea in the world; and Young did perform well at wing-back during pre-season.



Smalling cant cover wingback, but if Van Gaal decide to switch back to 4-4-2 Smalling has been played there before.

On August 11 2014 21:23 UdderChaos wrote:
The concept of Valencia displacing Rafael makes me sick. Rafael is an incredible talent, really under-rated due to a string of injuries. Valencia even at his best was never Rafael's level and his form is so far very erratic. I'm also pretty worried how Van Gaal plans to fit in januzaj, he needs gametime at this point in his career and was showing signs of being a world beater, with the wing positions gone where will he start? RVP, Rooney, Welbeck will certainly be above him in the pecking order for number 9 and 10, with hernandez and/or James Wilson looking to get games in (also zaha as well maybe? which is what makes the "rumor" of Cavani so ridiculous). Then there's the number 8 Role, Mata is first with kagawa second, and Rooney probably 3rd(Fellini 4th if hes not sold!, also Herrera can play here too), so unless kagawa is sold, he won't get a look in there either, and even if Kag is sold, that's not a lot of games without UCL football. Then there is just wing backs maybe, but i really dont see him playing here.

I like what Van Gaals doing so far but it seems short sighted. SAF seemed to be the only one with the balls to sell rooney (or RVP would do too). It seems madness, but we should only have 1 sure starter for the striker role, makes squad selection much easier and can fund a good quality winger like di maria. We are gimping ourselves with this formation just to fit in rvp and rooney and at the cost of the development of good young players like januzaj, and also pushing Kagawa out of the team too.


Yeah I would also rather keep Rafael, he had his ups and downs, but mostly due to his injuries that limit his growth. Also he is younger than Valencia, so I am confused by the rumour.
And I hope Van Gaal can find a place that fit Januzaj. It would be incredibly wasted to put him in some odd position and hinder his growth, like what happened to Kagawa T__T (or may be Kagawa just cant fit into the more physical style of EPL). And also Zaha, didn't see a lot of his plays, but he seems to have the pace and potential
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 11 2014 15:49 GMT
#1614
Happy birthday sharkie
This is our town, scrub
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
August 11 2014 15:59 GMT
#1615
On August 11 2014 23:18 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 19:52 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 11 2014 17:08 bluegarfield wrote:
On August 11 2014 16:22 ViperPL wrote:
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!


could be Van Gaal really wants to stick to his 3-5-2 formation in which Valencia would do better as a wingback than Rafael? and keeping Smalling means because he can cover both centreback and rightback when needed. Not sure but I do feel it's kinda weird also, while Rafael is not top class, he performs decently enough

Smalling cannot cover wing-back. I personally think the wing-back role is made for Rafael with how he's constantly trying to get forward from right-back, so I don't understand not wanting to keep him there. I guess the problem for Rafael is that Ashley Young seems to have caught Van Gaal's attention in the wing-back position, which means he and Valencia will be fighting for it. I'm told by my friend who is a Watford supporter that Young played wing-back for Watford back in the day, so maybe it isn't the strangest idea in the world; and Young did perform well at wing-back during pre-season.



Smalling cant cover wingback, but if Van Gaal decide to switch back to 4-4-2 Smalling has been played there before.

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 21:23 UdderChaos wrote:
The concept of Valencia displacing Rafael makes me sick. Rafael is an incredible talent, really under-rated due to a string of injuries. Valencia even at his best was never Rafael's level and his form is so far very erratic. I'm also pretty worried how Van Gaal plans to fit in januzaj, he needs gametime at this point in his career and was showing signs of being a world beater, with the wing positions gone where will he start? RVP, Rooney, Welbeck will certainly be above him in the pecking order for number 9 and 10, with hernandez and/or James Wilson looking to get games in (also zaha as well maybe? which is what makes the "rumor" of Cavani so ridiculous). Then there's the number 8 Role, Mata is first with kagawa second, and Rooney probably 3rd(Fellini 4th if hes not sold!, also Herrera can play here too), so unless kagawa is sold, he won't get a look in there either, and even if Kag is sold, that's not a lot of games without UCL football. Then there is just wing backs maybe, but i really dont see him playing here.

I like what Van Gaals doing so far but it seems short sighted. SAF seemed to be the only one with the balls to sell rooney (or RVP would do too). It seems madness, but we should only have 1 sure starter for the striker role, makes squad selection much easier and can fund a good quality winger like di maria. We are gimping ourselves with this formation just to fit in rvp and rooney and at the cost of the development of good young players like januzaj, and also pushing Kagawa out of the team too.


Yeah I would also rather keep Rafael, he had his ups and downs, but mostly due to his injuries that limit his growth. Also he is younger than Valencia, so I am confused by the rumour.
And I hope Van Gaal can find a place that fit Januzaj. It would be incredibly wasted to put him in some odd position and hinder his growth, like what happened to Kagawa T__T (or may be Kagawa just cant fit into the more physical style of EPL). And also Zaha, didn't see a lot of his plays, but he seems to have the pace and potential


I just would love that someone (from ManUtd or Kagawa) would tell us the reason why he hasn't been played. It's three coaches now that have forsaken him (and Moyes' decision was just stupid because Kagawa was always one of the best each time he played).
I just don't buy the "can't fit into the physical style of EPL". I mean Messi wouldn't "fit into the physical style of EPL" but he still destroys EPL teams (with the exception of Chelsea) wit Barcelona. So that can't be it.

Maybe it's a problem of fitness. I just would love to know.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 16:07:24
August 11 2014 16:06 GMT
#1616
How do i change formation in FL? :D

edit: nvm, got it :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
August 11 2014 16:19 GMT
#1617
On August 12 2014 00:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:18 bluegarfield wrote:
On August 11 2014 19:52 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 11 2014 17:08 bluegarfield wrote:
On August 11 2014 16:22 ViperPL wrote:
Seems a bit weird that van Gaal wants to get rid of Rafael, considering he's like to only player for his position. Unless Man Utd are gonna buy someone better soon, or his new system doen't require anyone in that spot.

EPL finally starts in a few days, can't wait to watch some games!


could be Van Gaal really wants to stick to his 3-5-2 formation in which Valencia would do better as a wingback than Rafael? and keeping Smalling means because he can cover both centreback and rightback when needed. Not sure but I do feel it's kinda weird also, while Rafael is not top class, he performs decently enough

Smalling cannot cover wing-back. I personally think the wing-back role is made for Rafael with how he's constantly trying to get forward from right-back, so I don't understand not wanting to keep him there. I guess the problem for Rafael is that Ashley Young seems to have caught Van Gaal's attention in the wing-back position, which means he and Valencia will be fighting for it. I'm told by my friend who is a Watford supporter that Young played wing-back for Watford back in the day, so maybe it isn't the strangest idea in the world; and Young did perform well at wing-back during pre-season.



Smalling cant cover wingback, but if Van Gaal decide to switch back to 4-4-2 Smalling has been played there before.

On August 11 2014 21:23 UdderChaos wrote:
The concept of Valencia displacing Rafael makes me sick. Rafael is an incredible talent, really under-rated due to a string of injuries. Valencia even at his best was never Rafael's level and his form is so far very erratic. I'm also pretty worried how Van Gaal plans to fit in januzaj, he needs gametime at this point in his career and was showing signs of being a world beater, with the wing positions gone where will he start? RVP, Rooney, Welbeck will certainly be above him in the pecking order for number 9 and 10, with hernandez and/or James Wilson looking to get games in (also zaha as well maybe? which is what makes the "rumor" of Cavani so ridiculous). Then there's the number 8 Role, Mata is first with kagawa second, and Rooney probably 3rd(Fellini 4th if hes not sold!, also Herrera can play here too), so unless kagawa is sold, he won't get a look in there either, and even if Kag is sold, that's not a lot of games without UCL football. Then there is just wing backs maybe, but i really dont see him playing here.

I like what Van Gaals doing so far but it seems short sighted. SAF seemed to be the only one with the balls to sell rooney (or RVP would do too). It seems madness, but we should only have 1 sure starter for the striker role, makes squad selection much easier and can fund a good quality winger like di maria. We are gimping ourselves with this formation just to fit in rvp and rooney and at the cost of the development of good young players like januzaj, and also pushing Kagawa out of the team too.


Yeah I would also rather keep Rafael, he had his ups and downs, but mostly due to his injuries that limit his growth. Also he is younger than Valencia, so I am confused by the rumour.
And I hope Van Gaal can find a place that fit Januzaj. It would be incredibly wasted to put him in some odd position and hinder his growth, like what happened to Kagawa T__T (or may be Kagawa just cant fit into the more physical style of EPL). And also Zaha, didn't see a lot of his plays, but he seems to have the pace and potential


I just would love that someone (from ManUtd or Kagawa) would tell us the reason why he hasn't been played. It's three coaches now that have forsaken him (and Moyes' decision was just stupid because Kagawa was always one of the best each time he played).
I just don't buy the "can't fit into the physical style of EPL". I mean Messi wouldn't "fit into the physical style of EPL" but he still destroys EPL teams (with the exception of Chelsea) wit Barcelona. So that can't be it.

Maybe it's a problem of fitness. I just would love to know.


Hes not played because of the following:
SAF bought him probably as a replacement for Rooney, as he was falling out with Rooney a lot and had bad blood with him and was looking to sell him instead of offering a new contract, so we needed someone to play behind the striker. But SAF still played Rooney over him behind the striker because that was the only way he could fit RVP and Rooney into the squad.The plan was to sell Rooney, and play Kagawa there after a year of adjusting to utd on the wing.

Then Moyes happened. Moyes gave rooney a new contract and bought mata, which isn't the worst decision in the world, but basically spelled out the death of Kagawa. So even though LVG has a system that can incorporate two strikers and an AM, we have Mata now as the AM, so Kagawa starts behind him.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 16:51:52
August 11 2014 16:51 GMT
#1618
Happy Korean birthday Sharkie brah :D


Special birthday PM sent
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 18:19:36
August 11 2014 18:16 GMT
#1619
This week is gonna be so long. Kill some time watching the first minute of this clip.

crazy pass and move!
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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
August 11 2014 18:30 GMT
#1620
Part of the problem for Kagawa is that quite frankly he's been anonymous for United on the field. Even when being played in his more suited role he's never left much of an impression. People overrate him a bit in my opinion.

Still, mostly it's down to the erratic nature of his opportunities. He got few chances to really make his mark and then frequently out of position on the wing. I would have hoped LvG could give him a real opportunity to shine but I suspect he will simply be backup for Mata.

I'm never a fan of a 3-5-2 formation personally. I think Louis is making a mistake adopting this for the season proper. It's ultimately a defensive formation with 3 CB's which is somewhat unbecoming for a huge club with means. It's also very difficult in my opinion for the players to adapt to a new system they haven't used before in a truncated off-season. Going to be especially hard on the defense and I think it pretty likely they will struggle a bit early on. I'd much prefer some variation of 4-3-3 which Louis is of course known for. Either way, it's gonna be an interesting season.
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