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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 29 2015 19:41 GMT
#14861
On May 30 2015 04:29 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 04:22 Steveling wrote:
On May 30 2015 04:01 warding wrote:
Again the same anti-Bosman bollocks? How do you explain the continued mediocrity of Israeli and Russian Football? How do you explain the golden age of Portuguese football coming exactly when the national league becomes flooded with foreigners?

If anything, the incentive for English teams to invest in homegrown talent today is absolutely huge, given the meteoric rise in transfer fees - it's much cheaper to grow players than to buy them.


You are wrong mate.
Israelis and russians don't have big football culture, that's why they suck no matter what they do.
I'm the best president.


They are quite a good at basketball, though.


Yes?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 29 2015 19:49 GMT
#14862
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PISSED
Like seriously what the fucking fuck. How in the first place do Asia and Africa have the most "votes" in this when there leagues are as corrupt as the people running the show! Ayyyyyy so annoyed. Had to stay at gym an extra 40 minutes to cool off as i had shit day at work too hahaha.

Fucking joke, hope to god Greg Dyke grows some balls and withdraws from the World Cup, will at least harm the revenue as we always sends 1000s of fans over to drink and stuff xD

Then i hope they go even further and start a tournament of our own, where we invite countries over to compete. Just small to start off, Netherlands Germany France etc, people who hate Blatter and FIFA and see if we can build it to compete with Euro. Or maybe even Plattini is going to do what he wanted with EUROs anyway and start to invite Brazil Uruguay Argentina etc anyway which be awesomeee
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-30 07:02:41
May 29 2015 20:03 GMT
#14863
On May 30 2015 04:49 Pandemona wrote:
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PISSED
Like seriously what the fucking fuck. How in the first place do Asia and Africa have the most "votes" in this when there leagues are as corrupt as the people running the show! Ayyyyyy so annoyed. Had to stay at gym an extra 40 minutes to cool off as i had shit day at work too hahaha.

Fucking joke, hope to god Greg Dyke grows some balls and withdraws from the World Cup, will at least harm the revenue as we always sends 1000s of fans over to drink and stuff xD

Then i hope they go even further and start a tournament of our own, where we invite countries over to compete. Just small to start off, Netherlands Germany France etc, people who hate Blatter and FIFA and see if we can build it to compete with Euro. Or maybe even Plattini is going to do what he wanted with EUROs anyway and start to invite Brazil Uruguay Argentina etc anyway which be awesomeee



Well thats what Blatter did clever. You can say these smaller countries are not footballing powers but the revenue that comes in fromt these places is absurd and money matters. More than anything else pretty much.

Your English league TV rights wouldnt be worth all those billions if it wasnt for all these "voters and the people they represent's" money at stake.

He has done a shit ton to promote the game outside the established world and hes got them all in his pocket because the kickbacks the bureaucrats at these smaller federations get are absurd.

And then he made sure Governments cant get involved and monitor them by saying.. well if Govts intervene your country is banned. Effectively saying no football for you.

The only people with enough power to challenge him in Europe are thence kinda fucked. You can have your own tournament and FIFA will make sure no one will pay to watch it. Everyone will stream illegally because TV channels around the Federations wont have shit to watch. The hassle is just not worth it for the existing federations. Legal issues are totally different monster. And frankly the war of attrition will mean football loses in the end.

Its a strong arming exercise thats 2 decades in the making. You've got nothing on Blatter.

Just the fact that he lost so many votes was a massive victory.

Its all very nice to talk about the good of the game but the intricacies and complications to cleaning it up are way more than anyone can take on. Its literally evil mastermind world domination level shit that has gone on here.

I dont think anyone expecting Blatter to coast was being cynical at all. It was just realistic.

As for your Prince Ali, I said this before already ....

But you were hoping for this.. + Show Spoiler +
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really, all you ever had was this..

+ Show Spoiler +
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 29 2015 20:08 GMT
#14864
Same reason that North and Central America has far more votes than South America. FIFA leadership loves those small, poor countries whose sale of their vote probably compromises a significant portion of their country's GDP.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 21:38:43
May 29 2015 21:37 GMT
#14865
On May 30 2015 04:49 Pandemona wrote:
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PISSED
Like seriously what the fucking fuck. How in the first place do Asia and Africa have the most "votes" in this when there leagues are as corrupt as the people running the show! Ayyyyyy so annoyed. Had to stay at gym an extra 40 minutes to cool off as i had shit day at work too hahaha.

Fucking joke, hope to god Greg Dyke grows some balls and withdraws from the World Cup, will at least harm the revenue as we always sends 1000s of fans over to drink and stuff xD

Then i hope they go even further and start a tournament of our own, where we invite countries over to compete. Just small to start off, Netherlands Germany France etc, people who hate Blatter and FIFA and see if we can build it to compete with Euro. Or maybe even Plattini is going to do what he wanted with EUROs anyway and start to invite Brazil Uruguay Argentina etc anyway which be awesomeee


Here is the thing: Having Africa and Asia more votes and lots of attention makes a lot of sense for everyone involved.

Think about it for you and me football is something between 4 and 22 people running for a ball to kick it through 2 goalposts. We played it at our parents garden, at school, some of us in youth teams but this is football for us.

Now imagine you are a 12 year old boy from Bhutan or Namibia and see football for the first time. You think hey this looks fun and something called "FIFA" (no idea what this is but who cares) build a center in the next town so you are going there. The very first thing you see there is not a ball it is a big yellow McDonalds logo. You have no idea yet but this will make you fat in 10 years because its burned into your head. Thats why the sponsors dont give a fuck about Europe because the big new markets are all in Asia and Africa.
Or say someone in Asia watches the WC and says hey this Robben is amazing and the announcer sayed he plays for Bayern Munich. I have no idea what "Bayern" is or where the fuck "Munich" is, the only thing i know is that they opened a shop recently so i go buy stuff and spend 1000$ in my livetime for a football club that is 15000 kilometers away.

The reason FIFA and Blatter work is because they literally shit money. And not just for corrupt people for everyone for players with higher market value for clubs and their expansions for sponsors for everyone.
UEFA will never ever quit because a lot of people and a lot of companies make too much money with the current system.

Blaming Blatter for everything is easy because he looks like the football devil and kinda lives in his own reality but you dont survive for that long without a lot of people benefiting from your work (and i mean legal money here).

And be honest we will watch the WC final 2022 in Quatar. Because even we hardecore fans who are more informed about this then 99% of the rest of the world dont give a fuck in the end.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 22:37:47
May 29 2015 22:36 GMT
#14866
Newest rumour:
Gündogan to Bayern
25m + Höjbjerg to Dortmund.

That's what I love about transfer windows. Media make me smile with the new bullshit they are inventing every day.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 29 2015 22:39 GMT
#14867
On May 30 2015 07:36 smr wrote:
Newest rumour:
Gündogan to Bayern
25m + Höjbjerg to Dortmund.

That's what I love about transfer windows. Media make me smile with the new bullshit they are inventing every day.


Yea, they had Gündogan locked to go to Barca a week or so ago...
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
May 29 2015 23:00 GMT
#14868
Fuck yea soccer the most corrupt sport in the world.

User was temp banned for this post.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 29 2015 23:17 GMT
#14869
Yeah i understand that claim Rebs/Micro but it still doesn't change my view. Any president of FIFA will do exactly that, build a nice centre for under privileged kids to play football, but African world cup in 2010 the money has never been seen by any of the youth teams etc. Huge articles about "where is the money" so when the guy who gives them the world cup doesn't even address that point it isn't fair.
Yes you can't change FIFA if you remove blatter most people know that BUT it is the start, if you get someone in who wants to start the change it can happen.
If you have a president/prime minister who is corrupt or is a dictator and you get rid of them, the guy/lady who goes in next starts to change it. It doesn't happen over night but it is very good start.

I get that what FIFA has done for African/Asian zones but that still doesn't give them the power they have, with so many federations. They should be shrunk, or lets just give America 50 federations as well
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 30 2015 01:38 GMT
#14870
On May 30 2015 07:36 smr wrote:
Newest rumour:
Gündogan to Bayern
25m + Höjbjerg to Dortmund.

That's what I love about transfer windows. Media make me smile with the new bullshit they are inventing every day.


At what point should bayern change to buyern? xD
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 30 2015 06:06 GMT
#14871
On May 30 2015 08:17 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i understand that claim Rebs/Micro but it still doesn't change my view. Any president of FIFA will do exactly that, build a nice centre for under privileged kids to play football, but African world cup in 2010 the money has never been seen by any of the youth teams etc. Huge articles about "where is the money" so when the guy who gives them the world cup doesn't even address that point it isn't fair.
Yes you can't change FIFA if you remove blatter most people know that BUT it is the start, if you get someone in who wants to start the change it can happen.
If you have a president/prime minister who is corrupt or is a dictator and you get rid of them, the guy/lady who goes in next starts to change it. It doesn't happen over night but it is very good start.

I get that what FIFA has done for African/Asian zones but that still doesn't give them the power they have, with so many federations. They should be shrunk, or lets just give America 50 federations as well


Well on the bright side Blatter is 79 so nature will take care of that at some point.

I dont quite get Gündogan, 25 million + Hoijberg sounds way too expensive.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 30 2015 06:29 GMT
#14872
On May 30 2015 08:00 TriO wrote:
Fuck yea soccer the most corrupt sport in the world.

Lol go back to playing with your under-inflated balls and rigged world series.

People saying FIFA is bad but UEFA never even tried looking into corrupt referee's in the CL over the past decade.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51663 Posts
May 30 2015 06:41 GMT
#14873
lol just realized spurs are playing in my city tonight.

i wonder if kjwcj will be there (he's a huge spurs fan)
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 30 2015 10:18 GMT
#14874
On May 30 2015 08:00 TriO wrote:
Fuck yea soccer the most corrupt sport in the world.

Well, it's because the world is corrupt and it's the most international sport.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 30 2015 10:48 GMT
#14875
On May 30 2015 04:49 Pandemona wrote:
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PISSED
Like seriously what the fucking fuck. How in the first place do Asia and Africa have the most "votes" in this when there leagues are as corrupt as the people running the show! Ayyyyyy so annoyed. Had to stay at gym an extra 40 minutes to cool off as i had shit day at work too hahaha.

Fucking joke, hope to god Greg Dyke grows some balls and withdraws from the World Cup, will at least harm the revenue as we always sends 1000s of fans over to drink and stuff xD

Then i hope they go even further and start a tournament of our own, where we invite countries over to compete. Just small to start off, Netherlands Germany France etc, people who hate Blatter and FIFA and see if we can build it to compete with Euro. Or maybe even Plattini is going to do what he wanted with EUROs anyway and start to invite Brazil Uruguay Argentina etc anyway which be awesomeee

You really think European leagues are not much corrupt?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 30 2015 11:48 GMT
#14876
Well when they are they are caught quicker, see Serie A and the on going La Liga debate. But when you compare it to the levels in K League for example it is nothing.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28874 Posts
May 30 2015 16:08 GMT
#14877
wudda how is jonas gutierrez not offered a new contract :|
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-30 16:16:34
May 30 2015 16:14 GMT
#14878
Well, he's not good enough, is he? Yeah, it sucks, given how he was treated by the club and then surviving cancer to come back, but now he can go somewhere he's wanted (back home to Argentina?) and Newcastle can free up wages.

Walcott starting over Giroud in the FA Cup final. Good decision, Walcott nabbed a hat-trick last game and Giroud's in poor form. Now let's surpass United in FA Cup trophies.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28874 Posts
May 30 2015 16:18 GMT
#14879
well granted I didn't watch him play much last season (as he was out for most of it) but from watching them between like 2011 and 2014 I thought he was the second best overall player behind cabaye. and always giving it everything he had. I guess it makes sense that cancer makes you worse at football though, but to me, he was always like, the one player that was too good to play for the team but somehow wasn't going anywhere. ;p
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
May 30 2015 16:36 GMT
#14880
So anyone watching FA Cup here?
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
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