EPTMessi in 2015: 14 goals and 9 assists.
Just read it on Marca forums... Looking good for Barça's little genius :D
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Messi in 2015: 14 goals and 9 assists. Just read it on Marca forums... Looking good for Barça's little genius :D | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On February 17 2015 00:33 Faruko wrote: Im so bored about the Ronaldo v Messi debate, why not enjoy both of them ? be grateful that you were alive to see them both, i will be telling stories to my kids of both players neither is remarkably better than the other one and why should you care It's still pretty much the best rivalry in today's football, obviously people are gonna be talking about it. For me Messi is truly remarkably better, much more complete. People just started doubting because he had an off-year. Now that it looks like he's back on his top form he again has absolutely no equal. That video that Steveling posted shows him being the best playmaker as well as the best striker. It's insane. For me it has always been Messi > Ronaldo >> everyone else. | ||
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city42
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/eriksen_stats_4541512.jpg?itok=kIr9MPhS) Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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city42
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On February 17 2015 00:49 Twisted wrote: It's still pretty much the best rivalry in today's football, obviously people are gonna be talking about it. For me Messi is truly remarkably better, much more complete. People just started doubting because he had an off-year. Now that it looks like he's back on his top form he again has absolutely no equal. That video that Steveling posted shows him being the best playmaker as well as the best striker. It's insane. For me it has always been Messi > Ronaldo >> everyone else. For me, he isnt (remarkably better), where Messi is better striker/playmaker, Ronaldo tends to work the entire field much better, i feel like Messi is a genius (so is Ronaldo too, maybe to a lesser extend) Ronaldo is a more complete footballer, which one is better ? depends on how you see the game and what you care about more, they are both gods. People only care about Goals and Assists, There so much more than that, How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball. Take Rooney for example, for me he is one of the most (if not the most) complete footballer nowadays, he may not be the best at everything, he CAN do everything, something not many players in the history of football can do that, if i ever see him stopping a penalty then i would declare Rooney the most complete player ive ever seen | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On February 17 2015 02:31 Faruko wrote: For me, he isnt (remarkably better), where Messi is better striker/playmaker, Ronaldo tends to work the entire field much better, i feel like Messi is a genius (so is Ronaldo too, maybe to a lesser extend) Ronaldo is a more complete footballer, which one is better ? depends on how you see the game and what you care about more, they are both gods. People only care about Goals and Assists, There so much more than that, How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball. Messi is a much more complete player than Ronaldo is as evident by your argumentation. 'People only care about goals and assists': that's the exact reason why Messi is actually underrated and Ronaldo is overrated. People in fact do, and that's why Ronaldo gets more praise than he deserves. 'How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball.' This exact reasoning is why Messi is a way more complete player than Ronaldo will ever be. He starts up EVERY attack and makes a shitload of space. He covers a great part of the pitch because you see him constantly picking up the ball at CDM and move forward with it. The way he controls the tempo of the game hasn't ever been seen before. Ronaldo is only better at ONE thing, and that's heading and only because he's taller/stronger. If anything, I'd consider Messi better technically with his head. The goal against Manchester United in the CL final comes to mind and he's scored a couple of great ones this season. Messi is a better finisher, better passer, better playmaker, better tempo controller, he's way better at freekicks (Ronaldo is actually massively overrated in this because I think he's pretty terrible at freekicks, Bale is way way better). What other categories are there? Both don't really do many defensive duties. Ronaldo might be a bit faster off the ball but certainly not on the ball. But like you said, most people only care about goals. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Edit: After Preston wasted a couple of great chances to make it two, Manchester equalizes in the 66th. Edit 2: 1:1 Herrera And 1:2, dunno how my stream is acting up 1:2 Fellaini 1:3 penalty by Rooney, Preston will not be happy about the ref this game. Penalty call, 1:3 Rooney Full time, 1:3. I was sidetracked a lot and if I wasn't my stream was, but that did not look impressive at all. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Liverpool vs Blackburn Bradford vs Reading Manchester United vs Arsenal Aston Villa vs West Brom | ||
GTR
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On February 17 2015 01:02 city42 wrote: Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted: + Show Spoiler + Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens. scholes 4th? lol. but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8930 Posts
On February 17 2015 12:37 GTR wrote: scholes 4th? lol. but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right? correct. didnt know he was as clinical as the table shows though lol probably explains his passing accuracy and long range shooting skills | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On February 17 2015 12:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: Arrigo Sacchi: "Italy has too many black players" LOL Nothing "LOL" about this... Wtf... | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 17 2015 13:45 evilfatsh1t wrote: correct. didnt know he was as clinical as the table shows though lol probably explains his passing accuracy and long range shooting skills The majority of those goals were scored from midfield though right ? I dont recall him being particularly prolific as a striker | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On February 17 2015 12:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: Arrigo Sacchi: "Italy has too many black players" LOL Lol, mby he meant foreign? | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8930 Posts
On February 17 2015 18:11 Rebs wrote: The majority of those goals were scored from midfield though right ? I dont recall him being particularly prolific as a striker i dont think he moved to central midfield until he was near his mid twenties, so they probably were mostly goals from him being a striker | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
3 more seasons until he is 23. 30 goals more. 37 goals total by the time he is 23. 7 14 6 10 the seasons. 19 he was listed as striker though, so when he went to midfield idk but still | ||
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