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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 16 2015 15:43 GMT
#11461
CR + Bale + Benzema in 2015: 11 goals and 9 assists.

Messi in 2015: 14 goals and 9 assists.

Just read it on Marca forums... Looking good for Barça's little genius :D
Revolutionist fan
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 16 2015 15:49 GMT
#11462
On February 17 2015 00:33 Faruko wrote:
Im so bored about the Ronaldo v Messi debate, why not enjoy both of them ? be grateful that you were alive to see them both, i will be telling stories to my kids of both players

neither is remarkably better than the other one and why should you care


It's still pretty much the best rivalry in today's football, obviously people are gonna be talking about it.

For me Messi is truly remarkably better, much more complete. People just started doubting because he had an off-year. Now that it looks like he's back on his top form he again has absolutely no equal. That video that Steveling posted shows him being the best playmaker as well as the best striker. It's insane.

For me it has always been Messi > Ronaldo >> everyone else.
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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
February 16 2015 16:02 GMT
#11463
Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 16 2015 16:07 GMT
#11464
city turning into the Spurs version of Steveling confirmed
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
February 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#11465
Not yet, I still have to build an Eriksen shrine in my bedroom.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 16 2015 16:28 GMT
#11466
Eriksen is amazing
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 16 2015 16:49 GMT
#11467
I agree. xP
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 17:36:04
February 16 2015 17:31 GMT
#11468
On February 17 2015 00:49 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 00:33 Faruko wrote:
Im so bored about the Ronaldo v Messi debate, why not enjoy both of them ? be grateful that you were alive to see them both, i will be telling stories to my kids of both players

neither is remarkably better than the other one and why should you care


It's still pretty much the best rivalry in today's football, obviously people are gonna be talking about it.

For me Messi is truly remarkably better, much more complete. People just started doubting because he had an off-year. Now that it looks like he's back on his top form he again has absolutely no equal. That video that Steveling posted shows him being the best playmaker as well as the best striker. It's insane.

For me it has always been Messi > Ronaldo >> everyone else.

For me, he isnt (remarkably better), where Messi is better striker/playmaker, Ronaldo tends to work the entire field much better, i feel like Messi is a genius (so is Ronaldo too, maybe to a lesser extend) Ronaldo is a more complete footballer, which one is better ? depends on how you see the game and what you care about more, they are both gods.

People only care about Goals and Assists, There so much more than that, How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball.

Take Rooney for example, for me he is one of the most (if not the most) complete footballer nowadays, he may not be the best at everything, he CAN do everything, something not many players in the history of football can do that, if i ever see him stopping a penalty then i would declare Rooney the most complete player ive ever seen
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
February 16 2015 18:23 GMT
#11469
Faruko you said you were bored of the debate, then promptly started engaging in it. :D
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 18:36:36
February 16 2015 18:24 GMT
#11470
On February 17 2015 02:31 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 00:49 Twisted wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:33 Faruko wrote:
Im so bored about the Ronaldo v Messi debate, why not enjoy both of them ? be grateful that you were alive to see them both, i will be telling stories to my kids of both players

neither is remarkably better than the other one and why should you care


It's still pretty much the best rivalry in today's football, obviously people are gonna be talking about it.

For me Messi is truly remarkably better, much more complete. People just started doubting because he had an off-year. Now that it looks like he's back on his top form he again has absolutely no equal. That video that Steveling posted shows him being the best playmaker as well as the best striker. It's insane.

For me it has always been Messi > Ronaldo >> everyone else.

For me, he isnt (remarkably better), where Messi is better striker/playmaker, Ronaldo tends to work the entire field much better, i feel like Messi is a genius (so is Ronaldo too, maybe to a lesser extend) Ronaldo is a more complete footballer, which one is better ? depends on how you see the game and what you care about more, they are both gods.

People only care about Goals and Assists, There so much more than that, How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball.


Messi is a much more complete player than Ronaldo is as evident by your argumentation.
'People only care about goals and assists': that's the exact reason why Messi is actually underrated and Ronaldo is overrated. People in fact do, and that's why Ronaldo gets more praise than he deserves.

'How a player moves around the field, creating space, moving defenses for others, even retreat a few meters to defend or recover a ball.'

This exact reasoning is why Messi is a way more complete player than Ronaldo will ever be. He starts up EVERY attack and makes a shitload of space. He covers a great part of the pitch because you see him constantly picking up the ball at CDM and move forward with it. The way he controls the tempo of the game hasn't ever been seen before.

Ronaldo is only better at ONE thing, and that's heading and only because he's taller/stronger. If anything, I'd consider Messi better technically with his head. The goal against Manchester United in the CL final comes to mind and he's scored a couple of great ones this season. Messi is a better finisher, better passer, better playmaker, better tempo controller, he's way better at freekicks (Ronaldo is actually massively overrated in this because I think he's pretty terrible at freekicks, Bale is way way better). What other categories are there? Both don't really do many defensive duties. Ronaldo might be a bit faster off the ball but certainly not on the ball.

But like you said, most people only care about goals.
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 21:38:59
February 16 2015 21:01 GMT
#11471
Preston 1:0 ManU

Edit: After Preston wasted a couple of great chances to make it two, Manchester equalizes in the 66th.
Edit 2: 1:1 Herrera
And 1:2, dunno how my stream is acting up
1:2 Fellaini
1:3 penalty by Rooney, Preston will not be happy about the ref this game.
Penalty call, 1:3 Rooney

Full time, 1:3. I was sidetracked a lot and if I wasn't my stream was, but that did not look impressive at all.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 16 2015 21:51 GMT
#11472
FA Cup quarter final draw:

Liverpool vs Blackburn
Bradford vs Reading
Manchester United vs Arsenal
Aston Villa vs West Brom
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51671 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 03:38:07
February 17 2015 03:37 GMT
#11473
On February 17 2015 01:02 city42 wrote:
Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens.


scholes 4th? lol.

but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 03:41:18
February 17 2015 03:41 GMT
#11474
Arrigo Sacchi: "Italy has too many black players" LOL
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
February 17 2015 04:45 GMT
#11475
On February 17 2015 12:37 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 01:02 city42 wrote:
Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens.


scholes 4th? lol.

but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right?

correct. didnt know he was as clinical as the table shows though lol
probably explains his passing accuracy and long range shooting skills
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18723 Posts
February 17 2015 08:32 GMT
#11476
On February 17 2015 12:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Arrigo Sacchi: "Italy has too many black players" LOL


Nothing "LOL" about this...
Wtf...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 17 2015 09:11 GMT
#11477
On February 17 2015 13:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 12:37 GTR wrote:
On February 17 2015 01:02 city42 wrote:
Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens.


scholes 4th? lol.

but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right?

correct. didnt know he was as clinical as the table shows though lol
probably explains his passing accuracy and long range shooting skills


The majority of those goals were scored from midfield though right ? I dont recall him being particularly prolific as a striker
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 17 2015 10:15 GMT
#11478
On February 17 2015 12:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Arrigo Sacchi: "Italy has too many black players" LOL


Lol, mby he meant foreign?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
February 17 2015 11:03 GMT
#11479
On February 17 2015 18:11 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 13:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On February 17 2015 12:37 GTR wrote:
On February 17 2015 01:02 city42 wrote:
Interesting comparison of PL players' goalscoring records before their 23rd birthday. As the world's #1 Eriksen fan you might like this one, Twisted:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also worth noting that none of Eriksen's goals are pens.


scholes 4th? lol.

but he was played as a striker in his early days before moving to midfield though, right?

correct. didnt know he was as clinical as the table shows though lol
probably explains his passing accuracy and long range shooting skills


The majority of those goals were scored from midfield though right ? I dont recall him being particularly prolific as a striker

i dont think he moved to central midfield until he was near his mid twenties, so they probably were mostly goals from him being a striker
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 11:11:33
February 17 2015 11:10 GMT
#11480
Ok as you guys are lazy. I make Scholes 20 when he makes his debut for Yanited during 1994-1995 season. 25 games 7 goals.
3 more seasons until he is 23. 30 goals more. 37 goals total by the time he is 23.
7
14
6
10
the seasons.
19 he was listed as striker though, so when he went to midfield idk but still
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