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15-16 thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/495505-nhl-15-16-mike-richards-possession-superstar
soul55555
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada45 Posts
March 11 2015 17:08 GMT
#1621
I hope Montreal wins it all.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 11 2015 19:26 GMT
#1622
On March 11 2015 22:41 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 11:40 Sub40APM wrote:
On March 11 2015 00:48 QuanticHawk wrote:


The wings have also quietly been good all season. I don't think they have the depth that these other teams have, but their old plugs are still all going, and they final have a real youth movement coming along.


wait what.
The Rangers have more depth than the Wings? Because you paid Marc Staal 6 million a year?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/nyr/stats/
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/det/stats/

Looks pretty comparable. The difference is you have Lundquist and the Wings have Jimmy Howard.
Trade goalies and you guys are in the Wild Card and the Wings have won the East.

The forwards are fairly comparable (though I think the Rangers personally are a bit better). Defense I think without question they are better. Staal's contract was dumb, and I do like some of the youth the Wings have back there, but I think it's not even close. Obviously there is a difference between Hank and Howard, and I do think Detroit is good this year, but the Rangers are just deeper

Where is the evidence of this defensive depth? Rangers surrender more shots on goal than Red Wings, their PP is weaker and their PK is tied.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 12 2015 13:37 GMT
#1623
I'm not gonna sit here and link to tons of examples to really compare it because that requires more than just total shots or points but I think the rangers are just better overall defensively. THeir higher end talent is better (Kronwall is the only guy in the same level as McDonagh and Yandle. McDonagh is hands down better, and Yandle is too imo). DeKeyser probably ends up overall as a better overall player down the road than any the rest of the bottom 4 are now for the rangers, but as of right now is at best = to staal. The rest of the guys are all fairly equal,but I also think it's huge that the Rangers are deep enough that they can run Boyle on sheltered minutes on the third + pp time and he does great with it. Zidlicky is a nice pick up but Yandle and Boyle both do the same thing and are better than him. it's only been a few games but they are doing the same with Yandle but with a bit tougher minutes. Aside from his romance with Tanner Glass, AV owns at putting his players in positions to succeed.

pre yandle trade I think it was closer to even, but that deal definitely made them an elite unit defensively (even if they will be fucked in a few years with girardi/staal).
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 19:24:19
March 13 2015 19:23 GMT
#1624
So the Isles locked up Boychuk for 7/42. Leddy makes more sense. Both have been nothing short of awesome for the Isles, (their advanced stuff owns) but Boychuks 30. Leddy will see the end of his contract. Don't think Boychuk will.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 14 2015 03:46 GMT
#1625
I dont think either of them will but for the Islanders its about maintaining positive momentum into their Brooklyn move. Image, this will be the first time in like 10 years that New York will have two pro franchises that are both relevant and competitive. If I was Bettman I'd definitely rig the East so the Isles-Rangers thing happens.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 14 2015 04:16 GMT
#1626
What a shit show San Jose has become. You know things are bad when the GM and star are publicly throwing each other under the bus in the media.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 14 2015 05:14 GMT
#1627
On March 14 2015 13:16 xDaunt wrote:
What a shit show San Jose has become. You know things are bad when the GM and star are publicly throwing each other under the bus in the media.

The sharks are breaking my heart rn. They could be so good, but there are obviously so many problems with management. Every page with San Jose fans is full of comments about how much they hate Wilson and how much they want him to go. I honestly think the fan base loyalty to Jumbo and Patty makes them untouchable unless they don't want to return. It's fucking stupid that they can't get their shit together this late in the season.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 14 2015 05:47 GMT
#1628
Frustrations bubbling over in San Jose I guess. I was pretty shocked at that public spat.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 14 2015 05:59 GMT
#1629
On March 14 2015 12:46 Sub40APM wrote:
I dont think either of them will but for the Islanders its about maintaining positive momentum into their Brooklyn move. Image, this will be the first time in like 10 years that New York will have two pro franchises that are both relevant and competitive. If I was Bettman I'd definitely rig the East so the Isles-Rangers thing happens.

The MLB Subway Serise from teh Mets and Yankees was a massive rating bonanza for MLB so I'd imagine a Rangers Islanders would do well too.

So Kadri is getting sat for 2 games because he's childish or something? Wilson recently said he felt like Kadri never listened to him. If thats the reason, I think kadri is on a two way deal. Why not ship him to the Marlies for a bit?
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Jartol
Profile Joined June 2010
United States7 Posts
March 14 2015 12:35 GMT
#1630
Kadri would need to go through waivers baised on games played. Two way contracts just pay different between the NHL and AHL.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 14 2015 13:27 GMT
#1631
On March 14 2015 21:35 Jartol wrote:
Kadri would need to go through waivers baised on games played. Two way contracts just pay different between the NHL and AHL.

I know next to nothing about the contract side of NHL,so I could be very wrong but I thought the whole point of a two way contract to be able to send your players down without going through waivers? Regardless of games played?
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 14 2015 14:10 GMT
#1632
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 14 2015 14:24 GMT
#1633
On March 14 2015 23:10 JimmiC wrote:
Jartol is right the 2 way just means differnt pay at different levels waiver status has to do with games played.

Cool good to know!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 14 2015 14:24 GMT
#1634
i know the islanders are 'ny' islanders but they don't have that much support within the five boroughs. brooklyn is not some nostalgia islander area and given the niche but strong loyalty of hockey fans in the city itself i can't see this brooklyn move converting rangers fan to islander fans.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 18:06:01
March 14 2015 18:02 GMT
#1635
On March 14 2015 12:46 Sub40APM wrote:
I dont think either of them will but for the Islanders its about maintaining positive momentum into their Brooklyn move. Image, this will be the first time in like 10 years that New York will have two pro franchises that are both relevant and competitive. If I was Bettman I'd definitely rig the East so the Isles-Rangers thing happens.

I agree that it's something they absolutely had to do with the move and momentum they have, but It was only like 5 years or so that NJ, NYR, NYI were all in the playoffs. I think buffalo too?

sitting Kadri is fucking retarded, more of the same stuff of a dumpy coach or franchise finding themselves a young scapegoat. It's gonna be hilarious when he moves the second he's given a chance and promptly becomes a solid 60-70pt guy.

SJ's total fumbling of the Thornton situation has been nothing short of a disaster. That was so stupid, and they've been doing a lot of questionable things since then. If you're gonna create that kind of bad will in the locker room with Marleau and Thornton, fucking trade them. But realistically, if you were gonna take the C and piss them off, it would have been more wise to trade them first. Now with everyone knowing what a disaster it is there, they will get low balled to shit on Thornton, who is still a very very good center.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
March 14 2015 18:33 GMT
#1636
On March 14 2015 22:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:35 Jartol wrote:
Kadri would need to go through waivers baised on games played. Two way contracts just pay different between the NHL and AHL.

I know next to nothing about the contract side of NHL,so I could be very wrong but I thought the whole point of a two way contract to be able to send your players down without going through waivers? Regardless of games played?


Two way contracts and waiver eligibility are completely unrelated.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 14 2015 19:58 GMT
#1637
On March 15 2015 03:33 Tephus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 22:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 Jartol wrote:
Kadri would need to go through waivers baised on games played. Two way contracts just pay different between the NHL and AHL.

I know next to nothing about the contract side of NHL,so I could be very wrong but I thought the whole point of a two way contract to be able to send your players down without going through waivers? Regardless of games played?


Two way contracts and waiver eligibility are completely unrelated.

Yea already pointed out to me, I genuinely had no idea and just assumed with the name 2 way that is what it was.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 15 2015 03:17 GMT
#1638
yandle playing well so far, scored his first goal tonight.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 15 2015 18:04 GMT
#1639
https://amp.twimg.com/v/d91f685f-6dd0-4d97-a615-b7fd73709ae3

I like seeing Montreal lose, but Price and Subban are awesome dudes and great players. Maybe when the team finally cans Bregevin and Therrien's horrible as they will still be able to make use of their primes. Therrien has sabotaged every single team he's coached with his system, and Bergevin's moves have aided in making the team more filled with pluggers entirely dependent on Price winning 2-1 games for them while facing 40 shots. A pointless game of chicken with the team's best Skater cost them millions in the long run, and he actively filled the forwards with a bunch of pluggers like Dale Weise, Smith-Pelley, Torrey Mitchell, etc.

It's similar to the bs in Toronto, but Price, PK, and the rest of the defense are miles better than their counterparts.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 16 2015 17:36 GMT
#1640
http://deadspin.com/andrew-hammond-wins-again-raises-hamburger-in-triumph-1691657738

This is fabulous
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