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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 16 2014 15:49 GMT
#421
Yeah, Riberio can certainly score when given the opportunity. Roy though, I don't imagine he can regain his past effectiveness. It'd be nice to be proven wrong though (always gotta root for the little guys).

There was much hullabaloo in Edmonton about the team chasing one of these centers and I suppose it's a matter of opinion but I'm rather glad they ended up with neither. Being forced to cheer for Ribeiro would have been shitty and Roy would have been replacing Sam Gagner with a shittier Sam Gagner. Neither of those players balance the roster out so they are better off seeing if one of the younger guys can play (Jar Jar, Yakimov, etc.) or going full-McDavid.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 00:31:07
July 17 2014 00:25 GMT
#422
On July 12 2014 13:31 QuanticHawk wrote:
in jimmy's world, LTIRing a player who isn't injured when is not cap circumvention, but hiring a retired player to coach is


the example provided stated Cleary would be paid $10M/Year as an "assistant to the GM".
there is no way the NHL would let that happen with any player.

This opens the door for every NHL team signing an aging superstar veteran player to a minimum salary contract only to see their salary rise to more than Crosby's salary as they retire. So it can't be permitted and it won't happen.

Now, they may hire Cleary as a pro scout for 200K at most.

also, this "coach" comment. almost on NHL-er goes straight from palyer to coach. And, when they do their pay goes down not up. they get crappy low level entry level ass't coach pay. They don't get Mike Babcock money.

so again it would be salary cap circumvention to hire Cleary as a "coach" at anywhere near the money Philly originally wanted to give Cleary to get him to leave Detroit.

Regarding your other comment about NHL teams manipulating the LTIR status of players.

It is rare to have a non-existent injury get claimed and have a player put on LTIR. But, often an injury is a matter of degree and not a simple "bone fracture exists" .."bone fracture does not exist".

As a result, teams manipulate the timing of when they LTIR players in order to best work around the salary cap.

Every team in the NHL has done it..and there will be a parade of teams that do it just before the season starts.

The plethora of concrete examples of Teams screwing around with the timing of LTIR-ing their players are on CapGeek.com and sites similar.

Often players get injured at the start of training camp and don't get LTIR-ed until the day before hte regular season starts.

Here is a simple example:

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-does-long-term-injured-reserve-LTIR-work

There are an endless # of permutations and combinations of ways to manipulate the cap in this way.

Most soft tissue injuries are a matter of degree and not as binary as "dead"/"alive" making it really hard to catch teams doing this stuff. As a result teams play around with when they LTIR palyers because they know they can't get caught.

I've just played 15 hours of basketball in the last 3 days. I have an inflammed medial epicondyle in my right arm. Am i injured and must quit playing for 2 weeks? or can i just play through it with some physio and ultrasound treatments? who knows.

when an NHL team decides to LTIR a guy who got injured 10 days ago its really hard for a DR to assess the "age" of the injury.

i hope this little post has been educational for everyone involved .
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 17 2014 04:18 GMT
#423
Where is a good site to read about news from Colorado? I'm curious whats going to happen with Reilly
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 07:45:15
July 17 2014 07:36 GMT
#424
gee, i wonder why Eric Lindros isn't in the Hall of Fame and Cam Neely, Pat Lafountaine and Borje Salming are

Lindros career was littered with all kinds of these incidents
http://www.bleedphilly.com/blog/2014/07/eric-lindros-tore-up-charity-auction-posters-because-he-was-mad-at-a-referee.html

With Lindros constantly pointing the finger at everyone, but himself after all these sorts of incidents.... even the general public began to realize what an idiot he was...

I'm waiting for Carl and Bonnie to issue their official rebuttals to these accusations in separate press conferences...

o ya, i forgot, no one gives a fuck.

it is interesting to have a referee acknowledge in writing the subjective nature of his on-ice penalty calls in that article though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 19:49:18
July 17 2014 19:42 GMT
#425
" if they're concerned about that then i should go somewhere else", Mike Babcock
discussing the criticism FAs are not signing in Detroit because he is too tough on players.

Here come the "Babcock to TO" rumours LOL

nice excavating by "Tim & Sid".

http://thehockeywriters.com/red-wings-coach-mike-babcock-doesnt-hold-back-in-radio-interview/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 22:46:02
July 17 2014 22:20 GMT
#426
In that interview, on one hand you see that Babcock is clearly much more involved in front office decisions than a generic coach -- so I guess he has an incentive to re-sign -- on the other hand, he isnt really a re-build coach, wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt extend his contract and goes to a team that is on the bubble of a run but cant quite get over it -- like the Blues or Pittsburgh I guess if either team has another sub-par playoff -- and have their Grand Rapids coach rebuild the team since he's been coaching most of the guys for a couple years now.
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
July 18 2014 10:32 GMT
#427
In the 90's Carl and Bonnie were in the paper more than Mark Messier, if that doesn't prove Eric Lindros deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, I don't know what does.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
July 18 2014 12:59 GMT
#428
sup, stoppin by to spread some hockey joy

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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
July 18 2014 13:04 GMT
#429
part 2

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 14:38:50
July 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#430
ahahahahahahahah

ennis reupped with the sabers for almost 5mper over 5 years. maybe a tiny overpayment, but then again he has been one of the few steady offensive forces there.

rangers signed matthew lombardi 2ys/1.6 total. cheap contract for a guy who could surprise and be a nice contributor i nthe bottom six. if not, he's cheap at least
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32154 Posts
July 19 2014 21:32 GMT
#431
Rangers picked up Lee Stempniak for 1 year/900k. Really nice deal for a guy who can give you some scoring from the third. Hopefully he's as effective as Pouliot was.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 19 2014 23:14 GMT
#432
Sweet, was tired of the Oilers always getting stempniaked

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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
July 21 2014 00:07 GMT
#433
Lombardi is?/was a terrific skater.

should be a good addition to the rangers if he can stay healthy.
Same for Stempniak. Should be an upgrade over Pouliot based on the fact that he does work hard.
The rangers wont regret letting Pouliot go when they see him go back to his lazy ways in Edmonton.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 17:06:34
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#434
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heheh

also paul statsny had taco bell cater his wedding, and had a cake modeled after a sauce packet (it was spelt wrong)

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also also the wings are assfucking detroit to the tune of 58% of their building costs, and the city does not recieve any revenue from the stadium as it did in its last deal with the joe
http://www.freep.com/article/20140302/NEWS01/303020060/red-wings-detroit-arena-revenue
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
July 22 2014 15:37 GMT
#435
Shanahan makes his first big move as Prez of the Buds.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-dave-poulin-claude-loiselle-hire-kyle-dubas-as-assistant-gm/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
July 22 2014 17:16 GMT
#436
On July 17 2014 16:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gee, i wonder why Eric Lindros isn't in the Hall of Fame and Cam Neely, Pat Lafountaine and Borje Salming are

Lindros career was littered with all kinds of these incidents
http://www.bleedphilly.com/blog/2014/07/eric-lindros-tore-up-charity-auction-posters-because-he-was-mad-at-a-referee.html

With Lindros constantly pointing the finger at everyone, but himself after all these sorts of incidents.... even the general public began to realize what an idiot he was...

I'm waiting for Carl and Bonnie to issue their official rebuttals to these accusations in separate press conferences...

o ya, i forgot, no one gives a fuck.

it is interesting to have a referee acknowledge in writing the subjective nature of his on-ice penalty calls in that article though.



people that can't keep their head up while skating through center ice don't get to be in the HoF
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 17:35:50
July 22 2014 17:20 GMT
#437
good move by the Leafs to let Dubas help hire the succeeding Greyhounds GM....
it never hurts to build up brownie points with the OHL.

this has Shanahan's fingerprints all over it.

On July 23 2014 02:16 EiBmoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 16:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gee, i wonder why Eric Lindros isn't in the Hall of Fame and Cam Neely, Pat Lafountaine and Borje Salming are

Lindros career was littered with all kinds of these incidents
http://www.bleedphilly.com/blog/2014/07/eric-lindros-tore-up-charity-auction-posters-because-he-was-mad-at-a-referee.html

With Lindros constantly pointing the finger at everyone, but himself after all these sorts of incidents.... even the general public began to realize what an idiot he was...

I'm waiting for Carl and Bonnie to issue their official rebuttals to these accusations in separate press conferences...

o ya, i forgot, no one gives a fuck.

it is interesting to have a referee acknowledge in writing the subjective nature of his on-ice penalty calls in that article though.



people that can't keep their head up while skating through center ice don't get to be in the HoF


Lafountaine got in ... his career was destroyed by concussions.... of course he is a first class guy,
Lindros is a total fuck-face...

whoda thunk an Ontario boy who donates all his money to Ontario hospitals would get told to fuck off by the HHOF and the parade of Russians, Swedes Americans, and women continues to flow into the Hall.

I hope Cassie Campbell gets in next year.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 22 2014 17:27 GMT
#438
On July 22 2014 01:49 QuanticHawk wrote:

also also the wings are assfucking detroit to the tune of 58% of their building costs, and the city does not recieve any revenue from the stadium as it did in its last deal with the joe
http://www.freep.com/article/20140302/NEWS01/303020060/red-wings-detroit-arena-revenue

Gotta find that extra Dan Cleary Bonus money for next season somewhere dog.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 20:19:41
July 22 2014 20:07 GMT
#439
"canadian athletes don't want it as much as american athletes" , jason whitlock.

the women's olympic hockey event was a perfect example, team canada had a 2-0 with 3 minutes left and lost 3-2 in overtime to team usa.

Jason Whitlock needs to stick to covering basketball.. he is having enough problems doing that job...
getting into hockey , philosophy and canadian culture is a bad move on his part.

if andrew wiggins is lazy ... fine.. just say so.

Terry Fox was another lazy canadian athlete. he quit after getting lung cancer.. talk about lazy.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 21:05:16
July 22 2014 21:03 GMT
#440
On July 23 2014 02:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
good move by the Leafs to let Dubas help hire the succeeding Greyhounds GM....
it never hurts to build up brownie points with the OHL.

this has Shanahan's fingerprints all over it.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 02:16 EiBmoZ wrote:
On July 17 2014 16:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gee, i wonder why Eric Lindros isn't in the Hall of Fame and Cam Neely, Pat Lafountaine and Borje Salming are

Lindros career was littered with all kinds of these incidents
http://www.bleedphilly.com/blog/2014/07/eric-lindros-tore-up-charity-auction-posters-because-he-was-mad-at-a-referee.html

With Lindros constantly pointing the finger at everyone, but himself after all these sorts of incidents.... even the general public began to realize what an idiot he was...

I'm waiting for Carl and Bonnie to issue their official rebuttals to these accusations in separate press conferences...

o ya, i forgot, no one gives a fuck.

it is interesting to have a referee acknowledge in writing the subjective nature of his on-ice penalty calls in that article though.



people that can't keep their head up while skating through center ice don't get to be in the HoF


Lafountaine got in ... his career was destroyed by concussions.... of course he is a first class guy,
Lindros is a total fuck-face...

whoda thunk an Ontario boy who donates all his money to Ontario hospitals would get told to fuck off by the HHOF and the parade of Russians, Swedes Americans, and women continues to flow into the Hall.

I hope Cassie Campbell gets in next year.


I wasn't aware that Pat LaFontaine's concussions were sustained by skating with his head down.
Lindros may have been good for charity but that's doesn't get you in the HoF either. Maybe if Lindros played long enough to get 450+ goals like LaFontaine he'd be worth the invite.
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