EPTNBA Playoffs 2013-2014 - Page 153
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Jerubaal
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 31 2014 12:54 Jerubaal wrote: Uh...do you think Toronto or Brooklyn would have beaten them? I agree they are a flawed team, but they were still the second best team in the East. You are not wrong, you just are ignoring what I actually said. They were the 2nd best team in the East, but still not a championship contender without several key injuries. Them against either of the WCF teams, or the Clippers is probably 5 games at best. The Heat are the only contender they can occasionally compete with, and that is because they are a counter to the Heat (one that still loses by the way). They are like a shorthanded Colossus army against a Marine ball, they can look good, but would get crushed vs. an equal supply/resource army made of Vikings, Tanks, or Roaches (warning, patches may make this analogy terribly out of date). | ||
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Michael James
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Jerubaal
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 31 2014 12:39 AgentW wrote: I think the second answers the first. As I've expressed (albeit via a change in my stance), I think the Pacers have to reluctantly re-sign him. He's likely still improving, but I don't think he's ever going to be the top dog (George has to be), he's still 23 and fairly talented. He's always been a clown, this series just brought it out. He's a proven stat chaser, and I can't believe that's good for team morale. I think they must bring him back because they have no other choice, but they don't have to like it either. They're never going to so significant damage unless he accepts he's number two (if that), not number one. It's a problem that I think Durant and Westbrook have to resolve as well. I personally think everyone's making a much bigger deal out of the shit Stephenson has pulled. So he blew in Lebron's ear, big deal. It's immature but it doesn't detract from his ability to play basketball or the team's ability to play basketball or any of that shit. In terms of his role on offense, PG has not been the ballhandling superstar that people thought he was. In this series, you saw that the Pacers struggled on offense because they didn't have enough ballhandlers, couldn't get anything going off the pick and roll, and struggled to enter the ball into the post for West/Hibbert, And you think the team's problem is deciding whether they need another ball-handler? They need Lance's off the dribble skills badly. Worrying about who's option A and option B is some bullshit, it works (although admittedly with a much more talented pair) for Wade and Lebron, or Westbrook and Durant. The "we only need 1 primary ballhandler and any more than that is a waste of money" perception is huge bullshit. The Pacers need offensive production. Lance is good at giving a team offensive production. As an aside I don't think Westbrook and Durant have much to settle in terms of who's an alpha dog, they run one of the best offenses in the league when they play together. Stephenson "tried to take over during the stretch of the season" because Hibbert failed to score points in a bunch of games and PG couldn't make a jump shot for much of the same stretch of games. Blaming him for trying to carry an offense that only has one other player (West) going for it is blaming him for the shortcomings of his team. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
I def think a healthy rose and Deng would've made the bulls better than Indy. | ||
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Jerubaal
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DystopiaX
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Jerubaal
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rabidch
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Orangered
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On May 31 2014 18:19 Jerubaal wrote: Let Lance go. Get a point guard. Move Hill to 2; tell him to work on his 3. Lol, it's like, he'll be right back in Pop's system again. :D | ||
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kidleaderr
368 Posts
On May 31 2014 17:44 DystopiaX wrote: They need a bench. Their starting 5 has performed fine, even against the Heat, but any time any one of them sits they get a lot worse. Dare I say, maybe its Vogel and his offensive system? Green, Augustin and Plumlee all proved to be valuable players for their respective teams once they left the Pacers. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On June 01 2014 00:06 farvacola wrote: Here comes the 3peat :D Have to think SA or OKC are solid favorites. All | ||
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farvacola
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ShoCkeyy
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 01 2014 00:51 Haiq343 wrote: Have to think SA or OKC are solid favorites. All Well, this is just poor logic lol | ||
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Jerubaal
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 01 2014 02:00 Jerubaal wrote: So you're saying the Heat are lazy and play down to the level of their opponents? Because if SA wins tonight, they will have dropped as many games to Portland and OKC as Miami did to Brooklyn and Indiana, and the Heat were in a lot more close games. Oh you simply decided to drop the Spurs' first round series? Poor form, man. Not to mention the enormity of the "if SA wins tonight" in OKC. No, I never said that. Western Conference teams being better than non-Miami eastern counterparts doesn't mean anything when it comes to who the favorites are in MIA vs OKC or SA. Because it's possible MIA is better than the entire Western Conference, which it was for the past two years. I was pointing out how it logically doesn't make sense. | ||
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