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haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
February 04 2014 02:33 GMT
#41
Ran a sub 24 5k today. Really happy with the time, didn't even think I could get close to 24 minutes.


Think my new goal is just to lose some weight. Been at around 210 pounds for a while now and eating so much bad food and drinking so much pepsi. Going to aim for 170 pounds and hopefully be consistent with it for once.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 04 2014 13:46 GMT
#42
im 9-10M/week the past 4 weeks

my goal would be ..15-16M/week i guess, thats 5 days a week instead of 3 :s

however the +2 days will be a lot easier coz i will go on flat surface. my normal route (to or back from gym) involves massive fucking hills which destroy me)

oh look you can see road elevation on a map somehow sick :D

this is my route back from gym

[image loading]
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15358 Posts
February 04 2014 14:26 GMT
#43
So last month I jogged for the first time in almost 1.5 years (after knee injury) for 3 minutes. It got pretty painful towards the end so I stopped, but I want to try doing more every other week and see how well I can progress.

So, since I am basically starting from zero, I might as well do it right: What are some things I should know about running? So far I just, well, ran, without any regards for technique, equipment etc. A short google search revealed a quagmire of partially conflicting information, as expected.

I used to be an OK runner I guess. Two metrics I remember from before injury:
- 1 minute @ 15km/h alternating with 1 minute @ 9km/h for 45 minutes.
- 16km 1:15h
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 23:44:04
February 04 2014 23:43 GMT
#44
On February 04 2014 22:46 FFGenerations wrote:
im 9-10M/week the past 4 weeks

my goal would be ..15-16M/week i guess, thats 5 days a week instead of 3 :s

however the +2 days will be a lot easier coz i will go on flat surface. my normal route (to or back from gym) involves massive fucking hills which destroy me)

oh look you can see road elevation on a map somehow sick :D

this is my route back from gym

[image loading]


Being from Colorado and looking at that graph I'm like oh looks pretty flat It's pretty easy to find routers around here with anywhere from 500 to 800ft vertical gain over 3 miles. Or 2200' gain over one mile on a certain "hill"....

I think you'll be in good shape with the mileage increase. Those hills will help turn you into a beast too.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 23:47:21
February 04 2014 23:46 GMT
#45
On February 04 2014 23:26 zatic wrote:
So last month I jogged for the first time in almost 1.5 years (after knee injury) for 3 minutes. It got pretty painful towards the end so I stopped, but I want to try doing more every other week and see how well I can progress.

So, since I am basically starting from zero, I might as well do it right: What are some things I should know about running? So far I just, well, ran, without any regards for technique, equipment etc. A short google search revealed a quagmire of partially conflicting information, as expected.

I used to be an OK runner I guess. Two metrics I remember from before injury:
- 1 minute @ 15km/h alternating with 1 minute @ 9km/h for 45 minutes.
- 16km 1:15h


Short Version:

Start simple. 2-3 days a week of running. 20-30 min. Easy pace (very conversational, should feel like the pace itself would be comfortable to hold for many hours).

If that week feels good, add a day. Repeat till you are running 5-6 days a week, then you can look to bring up the duration a bit and start adding some "quality" (harder training sessions) in there or build the mileage.

I do hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if the knee hurts from 3 minutes and if pretty painful, that likely doesn't bode too well, thought it is possible your body is just stressed from getting used to running again.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 05 2014 02:35 GMT
#46
On February 05 2014 08:43 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:46 FFGenerations wrote:
im 9-10M/week the past 4 weeks

my goal would be ..15-16M/week i guess, thats 5 days a week instead of 3 :s

however the +2 days will be a lot easier coz i will go on flat surface. my normal route (to or back from gym) involves massive fucking hills which destroy me)

oh look you can see road elevation on a map somehow sick :D

this is my route back from gym

[image loading]


Being from Colorado and looking at that graph I'm like oh looks pretty flat It's pretty easy to find routers around here with anywhere from 500 to 800ft vertical gain over 3 miles. Or 2200' gain over one mile on a certain "hill"....

I think you'll be in good shape with the mileage increase. Those hills will help turn you into a beast too.


haha i was lookin forward to someone puttin down my HUGE fuckin hills ;D

last night was really hard
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
February 07 2014 12:06 GMT
#47
I finally had my appointment with the orthopaedist because of my hip. He said that my left leg is a little shorter than my right one. This often causes trouble with the hip if you excercise too much.
He sent me to an MRI (yay, free healthcare!) to check out if it fixes itself with rest and wants to measure my legs and feet next time to find out if insoles would help me.

I can run a little without pain at the moment after resting the whole january. But I have to limit myself to about 25km and a slow pace. I feel that if I run a little faster or longer and my hip would hurt again.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 10 2014 03:52 GMT
#48
Hi guys, I need some advice:
I've been running regular hilly 5 miles for about 4+ years now but periodically my shin splints rare up. Like every 5-6 months I guess I must get lazy in form or my shoes wear out but it becomes impossible to run for 2-3 weeks. What can I do to maintain my cardio that isnt using a bike or swimming?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 10 2014 04:04 GMT
#49
On February 10 2014 12:52 Sub40APM wrote:
Hi guys, I need some advice:
I've been running regular hilly 5 miles for about 4+ years now but periodically my shin splints rare up. Like every 5-6 months I guess I must get lazy in form or my shoes wear out but it becomes impossible to run for 2-3 weeks. What can I do to maintain my cardio that isnt using a bike or swimming?


Elliptical, StairStepper, water running (f pool access isn't the issue), rowing machine, hiking vigorously up steep hills, possibly some forms of circuit type training
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 13 2014 03:57 GMT
#50
Going to be watching, (and racing the Open 4k) at USA XC Championships this Saturday. Hopefully I can get some sweet videos and pictures! Definitely going to be some great runners there, with Chris Derrick and Jenny Simpson headlining.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 16 2014 06:29 GMT
#51
USA XC Photos

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Derrick and Bobby Mack up front, Puskedra and Quigley lurk


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Derrick begins to make his move!

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All in all it was a really fun day, aside from some traffic troubles and early morning syndrome causing us to miss the women's race.

I was relatively please with my own race in the open 4k. I hit the 2k split in 7:26, probably a bit aggressive but I didn't feel overwhelmed. Unfortunately I had a shoe get sucked right off my foot in the one gnarly mud area, so I had to wade a few meters back and dig that sucker out of the mud, and then get it back on. Lost a little time doing that, but disappointingly it seemed to kill my rhythm and I ran the last 2k in I think 8:20 or so and just didn't realize how much pace I had lost. That said, it's not a terrible result and I kept it within 2:30 of some of my buddies on the UCCS team who are all around 16 flat guys which was essentially my goal going in. If I head to guess I think I could run about 19:00 right now on a nice flat road course.

Gettin back there. Baby steps. Down a little under 155 now too, so almost back to my pre-injury weight and I suspect by that point I'll only be about 10s/mile outside of where I was before. Not bad for 10mpw of running. Can't weight to see where race lean 140 and some actually running takes me !
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
February 21 2014 17:48 GMT
#52
Greetings, all!

I really don't log in or post much on TL, even though I visit almost daily to check for good SC2 streams. I'm a Platinum-level Protoss (same ID on BNet) and currently around 19 minute 5K (on a good day). In high school my teammates (with other friends) would routinely LAN party after Saturday races, so it doesn't surprise me to find this running thread up on TL.

Me: 1x Montana All-State Class A XC, 3x varsity Div III, sub 37min 10K (last summer).

My goals for 2014 (AKA "The Year of Hills"):

1. Run the Pike's Peak Ascent
2. Run the Pike's Peak Ascent in less than 3 hours (very difficult, probably).
3. Run the Mt. Evans Ascent in less than 2 hours, 40 minutes, and thus earn a piece of the mountain as a prize.
4. Run the La Luz Trail Run, hoping to place top 10.

I am currently at 25-30mpw, 1x long run, 1x tempo, 1x hills and other random runs thrown in. It's hard, now, what with being a fully-employed adult (wtf!) to make the time to go out and run. I've firmly anchored myself in my local running store's (Boulder Running Co.) Wednesday night run and a get-together of similarly-paced friends for Sunday long runs. I know that I need to work on my strength and probably get to 50-70mpw (WITHOUT INJURY) to truly be in beasty shape. I've had issues with knees in the past, really hope that with smart training and 2x rest days per week (for now) I can break through to some serious mileage and hit the goals above.

L_Master, it seems you're roughly at the same pace as me/friends, AND you're local-ish, so if you're ever interested in running together up North let me know.
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
February 21 2014 17:56 GMT
#53
With my post above as preamble, I wanted to propose something additionally awesome:

If we can get permission from TL, would you guys want to put together an order for a custom "Liquid Running" singlet? If enough people would be interested, I'll do what I can to organize options/costs/permission.

Poll: Do we want Team Liquid running singlets?

YES, OMG YES! (3)
 
60%

Yes, I could probably fork over some cash for this. (2)
 
40%

Meh, I'd probably wear it once. (0)
 
0%

No, I already have too much running gear. (0)
 
0%

No, I hate the idea and I would never wear a TL branded article of clothing! (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Do we want Team Liquid running singlets?

(Vote): YES, OMG YES!
(Vote): Yes, I could probably fork over some cash for this.
(Vote): Meh, I'd probably wear it once.
(Vote): No, I already have too much running gear.
(Vote): No, I hate the idea and I would never wear a TL branded article of clothing!



L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 21 2014 23:40 GMT
#54
On February 22 2014 02:48 mtmentat wrote:
Greetings, all!

I really don't log in or post much on TL, even though I visit almost daily to check for good SC2 streams. I'm a Platinum-level Protoss (same ID on BNet) and currently around 19 minute 5K (on a good day). In high school my teammates (with other friends) would routinely LAN party after Saturday races, so it doesn't surprise me to find this running thread up on TL.

Me: 1x Montana All-State Class A XC, 3x varsity Div III, sub 37min 10K (last summer).

My goals for 2014 (AKA "The Year of Hills"):

1. Run the Pike's Peak Ascent
2. Run the Pike's Peak Ascent in less than 3 hours (very difficult, probably).
3. Run the Mt. Evans Ascent in less than 2 hours, 40 minutes, and thus earn a piece of the mountain as a prize.
4. Run the La Luz Trail Run, hoping to place top 10.

I am currently at 25-30mpw, 1x long run, 1x tempo, 1x hills and other random runs thrown in. It's hard, now, what with being a fully-employed adult (wtf!) to make the time to go out and run. I've firmly anchored myself in my local running store's (Boulder Running Co.) Wednesday night run and a get-together of similarly-paced friends for Sunday long runs. I know that I need to work on my strength and probably get to 50-70mpw (WITHOUT INJURY) to truly be in beasty shape. I've had issues with knees in the past, really hope that with smart training and 2x rest days per week (for now) I can break through to some serious mileage and hit the goals above.

L_Master, it seems you're roughly at the same pace as me/friends, AND you're local-ish, so if you're ever interested in running together up North let me know.


If you don't mind my asking...where do you live? That Wednesday night run and Sunday morning long run sound eerily familiar, BUT it could be a standard for BRC.

I will say I'm certainly down for a run, or coordinating to show up at the same race sometime for sure.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 21 2014 23:43 GMT
#55
2. Run the Pike's Peak Ascent in less than 3 hours (very difficult, probably).


I dunno if that would be especially difficult. I've hiked the Peak several times in the 3-3.5 hour range, and while that wasn't starting from down on Ruxton like the race does, it also was by no means an all out effort. I suspect that would be a pretty reasonable goal, especially given you're already a pretty respectable runner.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
February 22 2014 19:06 GMT
#56
On February 22 2014 08:40 L_Master wrote:

If you don't mind my asking...where do you live? That Wednesday night run and Sunday morning long run sound eerily familiar, BUT it could be a standard for BRC.

I will say I'm certainly down for a run, or coordinating to show up at the same race sometime for sure.


Hehe, I'm in Broomfield, but work in Boulder. Wednesday night is the same for all BRC, as far as I know, and Sunday is the same day as most running clubs/meetups' long runs (however, ours is just a bunch of friends getting together recently).

From your posts I assume you're down in CO Springs? I think we've probably crossed paths a few times without knowing it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
February 22 2014 21:03 GMT
#57
Is a running singlet basically a sleeveless, sweat wicking shirt? If so how much would a tl item cost, approximately?

Separately, my new record run is 5 miles :p
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mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 21:16:42
February 22 2014 21:11 GMT
#58
On February 23 2014 06:03 micronesia wrote:
Is a running singlet basically a sleeveless, sweat wicking shirt? If so how much would a tl item cost, approximately?

Separately, my new record run is 5 miles :p


Nicely done on the 5 miles. Last year some of my best feeling weeks were ones where I ran the same 5 mile loop day after day, feeling good and fast the whole time. Was this 5 miles a local loop or a special run/event?

Yes, singlets are the racier version, usually without much sleeve at all (see L_Master's race pictures above for some examples). What I'm imagining would be the TL Horse splashed across the chest, either vertically symmetric or a bit of a tilt. If we would rather have a more "everyday" running shirt we could do that, too, but then it might be too similar to the already available TL Jersey.

As to cost, it really depends upon how many you order and what quality. I would guess around $30-$40 per.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
February 22 2014 21:39 GMT
#59
Was just jogging on the treadmill.... trying to keep myself in decent shape since I cannot run during the week currently. Was not going particularly fast... like 5.8 mph. For me that's not that slow though lol.... my only event ever was a 31 min 5k.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 23 2014 00:04 GMT
#60
On February 23 2014 04:06 mtmentat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 08:40 L_Master wrote:

If you don't mind my asking...where do you live? That Wednesday night run and Sunday morning long run sound eerily familiar, BUT it could be a standard for BRC.

I will say I'm certainly down for a run, or coordinating to show up at the same race sometime for sure.


Hehe, I'm in Broomfield, but work in Boulder. Wednesday night is the same for all BRC, as far as I know, and Sunday is the same day as most running clubs/meetups' long runs (however, ours is just a bunch of friends getting together recently).

From your posts I assume you're down in CO Springs? I think we've probably crossed paths a few times without knowing it.


Yessah. We probably have, especially if you went to any of the Colorado LANs as I helped organize those, especially the one at DU, and to a lesser extent the one that guys apartment complex.

Wanna race @ Boulder Bolder or something? If that isn't good...well my summer schedule should be pretty wide open, and there is apparently a track series that goes on in Bolder that I'll probably run some of cause track racing is the best of things.

If you end up down in the Springs at all training for the Peak let me know, and I''ll post if I'm headed to Bolder. Probably going to run Mags up in Bolder sometime in late April, so if you are free than let me know as well.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
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