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On September 15 2014 06:50 L_Master wrote:Pissssseeed at strava/phone though. Started the recording and got to the top with 2:31 on the clock, but the display read 0 miles and 0 mph average speed. Seems the GPS or something failed, despite having a signal according to the app. Guess that means I'll just have to do it again sometime 
Oh, man, that would drive me bonkers. It's bad enough when Strava doesn't like a GPS file from a normal training run. If it dropped a race or big achievement like that for me, it would be super annoying. If a man bicycles up a mountain and can't prove it on the Internet, does he really exist?
Glad to hear you're coming back to us soon!
On September 15 2014 08:54 Yorkie wrote:
The only problem is whenever I run I get some pretty serious pain on the insides of my lower legs/ankles. The longer I go, the more they hurt, and the longer the pain lasts after the run.
I have no expertise in this beyond my own experience, but I'd say that if it hurts more the more you run, you should seek medical attention. I often get niggling pains in various parts of my body in training, but they almost always go away once I get warmed up. If something is directly insulted by running, I think you cross-train, get physio, and lay off running for a bit.
Can you still cycle? Have you tried elliptical trainers?
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If a man bicycles up a mountain and can't prove it on the Internet, does he really exist?
A valid question. That one will have to wait for next year for an answer though
Not sure what caused it, either I did something to my phone that I didn't know about or high altitude caused problems (apparently that can happen), but in case of the latter I'd have thought I'd at least have some data...
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I have a question regarding Strava too. On my last run I took two small breaks to cross a street and parking areas. So I put Strava on hold for that time and started the clock again afterwards. When I checked the results afterwards it obviously didnt count the time I needed to cross the car dominated area but it did count the distance. Strava tells me I did that distance in 50sec/km which is a little bit off^^
Is Strava capable of taking breaks in space or only in time?
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On September 15 2014 19:01 Yrr wrote:
I have a question regarding Strava too. On my last run I took two small breaks to cross a street and parking areas. So I put Strava on hold for that time and started the clock again afterwards. When I checked the results afterwards it obviously didnt count the time I needed to cross the car dominated area but it did count the distance. Strava tells me I did that distance in 50sec/km which is a little bit off^^
Is Strava capable of taking breaks in space or only in time?
Afaik that quirk isn't something you can change about strava. If you pause and then go somewhere else it will always give you an instantaneous straight line warp from pause location to start location.
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I'm not sure if you missed a "t". So it does always count the distance in a straight line when you pause?
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On September 15 2014 08:54 Yorkie wrote:
The only problem is whenever I run I get some pretty serious pain on the insides of my lower legs/ankles. The longer I go, the more they hurt, and the longer the pain lasts after the run.
Well, it sounds like shin splint (look that up and see if it fits @Yorkie). It's not a serious problem if it doesn't get too bad. It's a normal issue for beginners afaik. I had the same and it basically fixed itself after a while of continous and careful running. Limit your pace and your distance so that it doesn't get worse while running and be patient. It took me about half a year of running to get rid of it and it hasn't come back since.
Listen to your body. Take a break from running if it gets worse and only slowly build up mileage again. I agree with Bonham that if the pain is too much you should see a doctor. If you force yourself to run through shin splints it might get a cronic injury (happened to my cousin as a teenager when he coach tried to make her into an 800m elite runner, she can't run at all anymore even 5 years later).
Posting how much and how often you have run over the last weeks might help figuring out if you're doing too much and how you should adapt your training. You're probably running too much because you still think that you're as good a runner as you were back when you ran your half.
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Thanks for the answers Bonham and Don Julio. I was thinking it was probably shin splints. I've been running about 20 miles a week for the last few weeks. Trying to get back into half-marathon form. I guess for now I'll run carefully, and add some cross training stuff. I'll throw in some cycling and some swimming (I live near an olympic pool) to maintain my training intensity. Cheers
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Sorry for rambling - I feel at a loss for my non-improvements.
I ran a crappy 6M race in 48 minutes back at the beginning of August with little training before hand, and am running another 10K October 19th.
So...in August you basically weren't training much and ran 7:50 pace or so for 10k. Fast forward a mere 6 weeks and you just ran a solo 5k at 6:50 pace and that doesn't qualify as improvement in that time period? 48 10k is equivalent to around 23 5k, and you just ran 30 sec per mile faster than that in a NON RACE. Put you in a race and you run in the 20:xx range easily.
If you expect more improvement than that...running probably isn't for you. I wouldn't neccessarily expect to see ANY major difference in fitness from a mere six weeks, let alone 30 seconds. Most runners are happy to improve 30 seconds in 5k over an entire training cycle or even entire year as you get more experienced. You just improved 30 seconds per MILE in 6 weeks.
Even using your half marathon or treadmill 10k, that still only predicts about 22:30-23:00 for 5k, which is still 20 seconds per mile improvement in a few weeks.
I was really looking for the 19:11
Why 19:11? More importantly if you expected 19:11 why did you go out in just 6:50. You'd need to be out in 6:10 for that.
I can consistently do 880 repeats in 3 min. My longer runs are run at an 8 min pace, and I've calculated I have about VO2 of about 44-46 (both numbers feel paltry).
When you say 3 minutes do you mean 3:00 or 3:xx. Also, when doing those how much recovery are you taking between repeats, and how many repeats are you doing.
Don't worry about calculated VO2, it has nothing to do with reality. The only way to know VO2 is lab testing, and even then it tells you next to nothing about fitness or race ability. Guys with 85 VO2 get destroyed by guys with 60.
8 min per mile is good for regular runs assuming it is truly easy. But considering you are in 21 shape or so, 8:00 is probably a little too fast of a pace for regular easy runs. 8:30 would be more appropriate.
A better question would be how fast can you do a 20-25 min tempo run at a comfortably hard pace?
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Random post of the day: I will be in the audience at IEM SAN JOSE.
I am super-pumped about this, and just wanted to check in and see if any other runners were also planning to attend and wanted to get together to go for a "TL run" at some point?
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On September 17 2014 07:31 mtmentat wrote:
Random post of the day: I will be in the audience at IEM SAN JOSE.
I am super-pumped about this, and just wanted to check in and see if any other runners were also planning to attend and wanted to get together to go for a "TL run" at some point?
I play BW, so no IEM for me...not to mention I'm far too poor to actually travel. Best of luck finding other runners though!
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I'm pretty much going straight from a 10K race on Saturday to Redbull Battlegrounds DC lol
I hardly play sc2 at all anymore though, I play like 2 games and I'm bored/done. Still play some dota2 for fun but I'm terrible.
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Had the first of my big 18k workouts. My pace was 4:36 min/km, my training plan wanted me to run it with a 4:32 pace. Weather was shitty and I think it slowed me down significantly. My legs feel pretty good right now and felt OK while running. I ran kinda sloppy at about 1:00h which is basically where my previous tempo runs finished. I'm confident that I can push the pace down to 4:32 in the next two weeks. Sub 1:35 or even faster for the half should be possible.
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Did the biggest running event in the Netherlands today (Dam tot dam loop). It's a 16.09 km (10 miles) run from Amsterdam to Zaandam. I'm not that experienced of a runner but I'm very satisfied with my result! Finished in 1:24:18 for an average speed of 11,454 km/h.
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On September 22 2014 04:16 Twisted wrote:
Did the biggest running event in the Netherlands today (Dam tot dam loop). It's a 16.09 km (10 miles) run from Amsterdam to Zaandam. I'm not that experienced of a runner but I'm very satisfied with my result! Finished in 1:24:18 for an average speed of 11,454 km/h.
That's a solid pace for a not experienced runner and 10 miles hurt if you don't run a lot. Congrats. Next stop Half Marathon or a sub 50min 10k?
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Yo!
Question: When running hills what am I supposed to be trying to keep the same: my speed, my intensity or my heartrate? Or am I missing something fundamental about running hills?
Obviously if I try to keep my speed the same, my intensity/hr goes way up. If I try to keep my HR the same then my speed drops like crazy.
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On September 24 2014 04:42 caznitch wrote:
Yo!
Question: When running hills what am I supposed to be trying to keep the same: my speed, my intensity or my heartrate? Or am I missing something fundamental about running hills?
Obviously if I try to keep my speed the same, my intensity/hr goes way up. If I try to keep my HR the same then my speed drops like crazy.
Why hello, there! Having run a few "hills" this year, I figured I might chime in.
Run with the same intensity & heartrate, unless you're specifically doing a workout trying to get faster on hills (in which case, push it!). It will feel slow, until you're halfway up the hill. Then you'll be glad you have a little bit of extra aerobic capacity to keep on going as your legs get tired of the extra duty.
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Speaking from experience, I advise against running up hills. It is a bad idea. Avoid it.
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On September 24 2014 11:43 Bonham wrote:
Speaking from experience, I advise against running up hills. It is a bad idea. Avoid it.
Is there a short answer as to why? If you say 'no' I'm willing to defer to your great PR's and just agree!  My workout tomorrow has warmup, then 3 x 8min at Z4, preferably up hill... was wondering wtf to do there.
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On September 24 2014 12:50 caznitch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:43 Bonham wrote:
Speaking from experience, I advise against running up hills. It is a bad idea. Avoid it. Is there a short answer as to why? If you say 'no' I'm willing to defer to your great PR's and just agree! My workout tomorrow has warmup, then 3 x 8min at Z4, preferably up hill... was wondering wtf to do there.
He is being sarcastic.
Running hills are good, hilly aerobic runs at easy to moderate paces are nice for strength building and shorter, faster more repeat style hills are good for preparing the body for full pace speedwork on the track.
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Yes! Sorry, sarcasm confirmed. Running hills is a useful training tool, as L Master says. Unlike some of the eccentrics in this thread (the name mtmentat springs to the lips), we of the right thinking element dislike hills in races, that's all.
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