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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
December 01 2013 03:55 GMT
#1721
holy fuck i didn't think the rockets has it in them to crack that defense. But spurs started giving out freethrows when the rockets were having a hard time scoring on their own.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 04:07:25
December 01 2013 04:05 GMT
#1722
Rockets are taking FTs at historic rates.

More than 5 more a game than any other team.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 01 2013 04:16 GMT
#1723
Jared Sullinger is the real deal
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13484 Posts
December 01 2013 04:38 GMT
#1724
On December 01 2013 13:05 Jerubaal wrote:
Rockets are taking FTs at historic rates.

More than 5 more a game than any other team.


You could account those 5 to hack-a-Howard probably.

Rare to see Spurs choke like that although that Harden three was massive.

So anyone agree here: Dwight's still a good player but he's not close to being a Superstar anymore. I'd much rather have M Gasol as my starting C at this stage. His offensive impact is fairly minimal these days compared to what he was with the Magic. He had the benefit of the doubt last year given his back injury but he's really part of the pack now as opposed to being the clear best centre in the game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 01 2013 04:49 GMT
#1725
Not sure why Kawhi Leonard wasn't on the floor to guard Harden instead of Belinelli down the stretch
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 01 2013 04:57 GMT
#1726
No, no, Rowdier, 5 (actually I miscalculated, it's 4.7) more per game than the next closest team, LAC. Both teams were pretty close to their season averages. SA averages 17 FTAs per game and Houston is averaging 33 FTAs per game. That's a pretty crazy stat.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13484 Posts
December 01 2013 05:07 GMT
#1727
How much is OKC averaging? Durant and WB seem to be taking 15 each a game -__-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 05:15:55
December 01 2013 05:14 GMT
#1728
OKC is at 29/game, but they've played a few less games.

That actually makes them 2nd, above LAC, but the ranking had totals and OKC for some reason has played several games less so /o/ .
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
December 01 2013 05:15 GMT
#1729
On December 01 2013 13:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Not sure why Kawhi Leonard wasn't on the floor to guard Harden instead of Belinelli down the stretch

one of his finger got dislocated during the game, he didn't play the 2nd half.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 01 2013 06:16 GMT
#1730
On December 01 2013 13:38 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 13:05 Jerubaal wrote:
Rockets are taking FTs at historic rates.

More than 5 more a game than any other team.


You could account those 5 to hack-a-Howard probably.

Rare to see Spurs choke like that although that Harden three was massive.

So anyone agree here: Dwight's still a good player but he's not close to being a Superstar anymore. I'd much rather have M Gasol as my starting C at this stage. His offensive impact is fairly minimal these days compared to what he was with the Magic. He had the benefit of the doubt last year given his back injury but he's really part of the pack now as opposed to being the clear best centre in the game.

You're gonna get tons of fouls when you have Dwight+Harden on your team and your offensive gameplan has added emphasis on getting into the paint.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 01 2013 08:58 GMT
#1731
Bynum highlights:



Looking spry for a guy with no knees.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 01 2013 09:34 GMT
#1732
So the Lakers are a .500 team without Kobe so far. Does anyone else believe that they will remain a .500 team after Kobe returns? I've seen Kobe get injured quite a few times over his career and I've never seen the Lakers win% drop when he wasn't able to play. I honestly think Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. I'm sure he will return, jack up 20+ shots a game, shoot a career low fg%, lakers will continue to lose half their games and then we will hear how it's not Kobe's fault, and how he has to take all these hero shots because everyone else on his team is useless.

/rant
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
December 01 2013 09:44 GMT
#1733
On December 01 2013 18:34 BlackJack wrote:
So the Lakers are a .500 team without Kobe so far. Does anyone else believe that they will remain a .500 team after Kobe returns? I've seen Kobe get injured quite a few times over his career and I've never seen the Lakers win% drop when he wasn't able to play. I honestly think Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. I'm sure he will return, jack up 20+ shots a game, shoot a career low fg%, lakers will continue to lose half their games and then we will hear how it's not Kobe's fault, and how he has to take all these hero shots because everyone else on his team is useless.

/rant


You're entitled to that opinion.

Me? I'm imagining every play we run with Kobe Bryant in place of Jodie Meeks and Meeks coming off the bench. In that situation trading player for player how could this team NOT just plain improve.

Kobe gives us another low post and mid-range threat which forces defenses to adjust and gives more space for our shooters to operate, he gives us a go to guy in the starting line up that can create his own shot when currently all we have is Pau and Nick Young for that role.

Kobe will be nothing but a positive for this team.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
December 01 2013 10:53 GMT
#1734
On December 01 2013 18:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 18:34 BlackJack wrote:
So the Lakers are a .500 team without Kobe so far. Does anyone else believe that they will remain a .500 team after Kobe returns? I've seen Kobe get injured quite a few times over his career and I've never seen the Lakers win% drop when he wasn't able to play. I honestly think Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. I'm sure he will return, jack up 20+ shots a game, shoot a career low fg%, lakers will continue to lose half their games and then we will hear how it's not Kobe's fault, and how he has to take all these hero shots because everyone else on his team is useless.

/rant


You're entitled to that opinion.

Me? I'm imagining every play we run with Kobe Bryant in place of Jodie Meeks and Meeks coming off the bench. In that situation trading player for player how could this team NOT just plain improve.

Kobe gives us another low post and mid-range threat which forces defenses to adjust and gives more space for our shooters to operate, he gives us a go to guy in the starting line up that can create his own shot when currently all we have is Pau and Nick Young for that role.

Kobe will be nothing but a positive for this team.


Thank god basketball is only offense :D
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#1735
On December 01 2013 19:53 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 18:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
On December 01 2013 18:34 BlackJack wrote:
So the Lakers are a .500 team without Kobe so far. Does anyone else believe that they will remain a .500 team after Kobe returns? I've seen Kobe get injured quite a few times over his career and I've never seen the Lakers win% drop when he wasn't able to play. I honestly think Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. I'm sure he will return, jack up 20+ shots a game, shoot a career low fg%, lakers will continue to lose half their games and then we will hear how it's not Kobe's fault, and how he has to take all these hero shots because everyone else on his team is useless.

/rant


You're entitled to that opinion.

Me? I'm imagining every play we run with Kobe Bryant in place of Jodie Meeks and Meeks coming off the bench. In that situation trading player for player how could this team NOT just plain improve.

Kobe gives us another low post and mid-range threat which forces defenses to adjust and gives more space for our shooters to operate, he gives us a go to guy in the starting line up that can create his own shot when currently all we have is Pau and Nick Young for that role.

Kobe will be nothing but a positive for this team.


Thank god basketball is only offense :D


I am not one to defend Kobe but Jodie Meeks defense isn't the standard of the league.
Remember Violet.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 12:02:08
December 01 2013 12:01 GMT
#1736
On December 01 2013 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 19:53 Erandorr wrote:
On December 01 2013 18:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
On December 01 2013 18:34 BlackJack wrote:
So the Lakers are a .500 team without Kobe so far. Does anyone else believe that they will remain a .500 team after Kobe returns? I've seen Kobe get injured quite a few times over his career and I've never seen the Lakers win% drop when he wasn't able to play. I honestly think Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. I'm sure he will return, jack up 20+ shots a game, shoot a career low fg%, lakers will continue to lose half their games and then we will hear how it's not Kobe's fault, and how he has to take all these hero shots because everyone else on his team is useless.

/rant


You're entitled to that opinion.

Me? I'm imagining every play we run with Kobe Bryant in place of Jodie Meeks and Meeks coming off the bench. In that situation trading player for player how could this team NOT just plain improve.

Kobe gives us another low post and mid-range threat which forces defenses to adjust and gives more space for our shooters to operate, he gives us a go to guy in the starting line up that can create his own shot when currently all we have is Pau and Nick Young for that role.

Kobe will be nothing but a positive for this team.


Thank god basketball is only offense :D


I am not one to defend Kobe but Jodie Meeks defense isn't the standard of the league.


He hasn't been that bad to be honest, his biggest liability has been his size as has been the weakness with the entirety of the Laker guard rotations. Bigger guards like Miller and Stucky can just abuse them in the paint. Which also makes our help defense on forwards that much weaker. Kobe at least has the size to handle some of the larger guard assignments and his perimeter defense although not that great as has been pointed out often in these forums is still not a downgrade from Meeks or if one at all nothing significant.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 12:43:31
December 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#1737
Like we said early on, this is a D'Antoni team and he'll turn his pieces into a working, solid group. Kobe can replace Meeks and be a much larger threat on offense, but who knows how that'll affect the chemistry of what's already there. Maybe (but less likely imo) he does what Carmelo did and demand the ball in certain situations where otherwise the offense would get to run or (more likely) his presence causes everyone else to stop doing what they're doing right now and become a ball-watching team.

Don't really know until it happens though. Definitely have more faith in Kobe adjusting to what's there than I did in Carmelo.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13484 Posts
December 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#1738
I hate Kobe as much as the next Laker hater but he's an amazing player. I think they'll absolutely improve with him playing again. If anything I think he'll help facilitate the offence better. He'll probably take a ton of bad shots (especially late) but overall the benefit will be a +.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 01 2013 15:16 GMT
#1739
He might help them in a few months but I have no doubt that when Kobe comes back he's going to spend the first few games throwing up an absurd amount of shots to show he's back and prove to everyone he can carry the team. Basically, combining the injury + the contract issues I think he'll overextend himself and end up hurting the team in the short run.

Then, imo, the real test is how long/whether he learns his lesson and falls into his role on the team.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 01 2013 18:01 GMT
#1740
It's weird because you'd think an elite mid range shooter would be perfect for D'antoni's system.
Remember Violet.
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