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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
March 08 2014 10:15 GMT
#4261
Do you think the Clippers are contenders? We're in the same category as them.

We have a chance against the Spurs, but really have no chance against the Thunder. Maybe if we meet the Spurs in the second round, and the Clippers upset the Thunder on the other side of the bracket, we might be able to sneak into the finals. I think us and the Clippers are long shot contenders, but if all the right pieces fall into place it could happen.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 08 2014 10:34 GMT
#4262
I think the Clippers are actually as close to the best team as possible in the West if they can get anything out of a third big. Chris Paul is the third best player in the league, and even has a claim for #2. Blake is obviously a star and DJ is the man. Once Redick comes back their top 4 is lights out.

Houston is a contender now that Dwight is healthy and so is the rest of the team.

I hate to say it, but I don't see the Spurs making it to the Finals even though Kawhi Leonard is their most indispensable guy. They are good, but they don't look as impressive as last year. I haven't looked too closely at them since Kawhi came back from injury though so this could change.

OKC I'm iffy on. Durant is great, Westbrook is so-so, Ibaka is good. They actually have a great stable of young talent surrounding. Problem is how they do once minutes tighten up vs playoff lineups. Reggie Jackson and Jeremy Lamb are fine in the regular season vs Chris Paul, in the playoff when he's playing 37+ minutes a game they are fucking toast.

GSW are the most intriguing team, since their offense is broken but defense is lights out. Harrison Barnes isn't THAT good and a lot of hype came off that playoff series vs a battered Denver team. Thankfully, Draymond Green is back tho :D

Everyone else is meh. Portland is a 1st round causality. The offense is buoyed by their perimeter players being great penetrators and shooters. Aldridge is wildly overrated (not even top 5 PF imo) and until they offload his usage and midrange shots - which he isn't elite at hitting - they are in trouble. Phoenix needs Bledsoe back at 100% to have a shot, Dallas is going no where unless Dirk is saving energy, and Minny is on the bubble but they have too many bad players and a league worst bench holding Kevin Love's MVP caliber season back.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 11:24:56
March 08 2014 11:23 GMT
#4263
Replace Minnesota with Memphis, they're a much bigger chance of making the playoffs.

Dallas has pretty much no chance of winning a series, and Phoenix are incredibly impressive just for being in the position they are in. Any success in the playoffs is a bonus.

I agree that Portland will most likely lose in the first round, especially if they don't get home court (currently 5th). Could see them maybe beating the Warriors with home court, but the Clippers will pound them.
I don't rate Aldridge that highly either, was shocked to see that before he injured himself and missed a string of games, he'd attempted 50 more FG's than any player in the league.

Warriors are definitely going to be fascinating. With their defense and the ability of Curry to go off, with maybe one or two games of Thompson going off, they will be a really, really tough out in a 7 game series against anyone.

I quite like Houston. I feel like they've got lots of bases covered.

Especially Looking forward to the 4v5 and 3v6 matchups in the first round. GSW vs Houston is currently on the cards. That would be rather epic
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 08 2014 11:45 GMT
#4264
Ferrrrrrk yea I forgot about Memphis. My real concern with them is how long is Z-Bo going to be able to perform at a solid level. Gasol and Conley are studs, T.Allen is himself, and Courtney Lee (wtf) has been solid.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13008 Posts
March 08 2014 12:56 GMT
#4265
Same story every year with the Clips. Look at their SRS! They're so deep! Blah, blah, blah. Still soft and overrated.

Although Blake is the X-factor this year. He has really taken a significant leap that could take them place. He's not the soft flopper he once was. But DJ is still a weakness for them inside. The first decent defence they run into will beat them IMO and we'll be back to making excuses for them.

But maybe this year I'll be proven wrong.

The West is very open. Portland will struggle IMO. When the defence ramps up their O will crumble. But they are young and they do gun so will take 6 or 7 games to beat.

Durant's far and away the best player in the West. Save for WB going down again I think OKC is a lock for the WCF.

SAS is tricky. They're the best run and most professional team in the West but the legs are old. If the Dubs stayed fit and were coached properly last year I'm not so sure SAS takes that series. Young teams with strong offence area weakness for them.

Dal and Phx will be pesky but aren't good enough to go far IMO. Definitely candidates to spring an upset but second round at most for me.

And the there's the Grizz. They really don't change much but will be so hard to beat. Doubt they'll get close to WCF again though. Second round ceiling for me.

Houston is just awesome right now. Dwight is defending like it was 2009 again and they have one of the smartest run offences in the NBA. With Asik back on board, they're my pick to play OKC in the WCF.

And then there's my Dubs. The D is humming and they're doing well to limit the minutes on Bogues' body so far. If he's fit to hold the middle, the likes of he, Klay and Iggy will be a brutal combo to break down. Lee worries me greatly. But Steph is a guy like very few who can just torch teams so badly with his offence. If he gets going like last year and his guys around him stay fit then they're a real shot at the WCF. Blake's addition has been solid for their bench. Consistency will likely be their killer in a seven game series. They're still too streaky offensively IMO.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 08 2014 13:57 GMT
#4266
Blake was injured last year in the playoffs :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
March 08 2014 14:04 GMT
#4267
The Pacer's game was the best showing for the Rocket's so far this year. I kept waiting for the inevitable "get a huge lead and then have a 12 point quarter with a dozen turn overs" to happen, but the closest to that was the end of the 2nd quarter and start of the 3rd where it got close. Lin had his first decent game in a while, and to be able to sit the starters for most of the 4th was impressive.

Of course even in the playoffs a team can blowout the other team and lose the series, and the Pacers did the same thing to the Rockets back in December. But the Rockets are gelling at the right time with the best record in the league since January 1st.

If they can finish this tough stretch of Portland, OKC, Chicago and Miami out strong, then the rest of their schedule sets up nicely with only 4 other games against quality playoff teams out of the last 16 games. The 2nd to last game vs the Spurs at home could be for the division lead, and the Rockets already have the tie breaker there.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 08 2014 15:10 GMT
#4268
Blake is just so good now..He's just frightening on some occasions. I think they can at least make the WCF, but we'll have to see.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 08 2014 16:12 GMT
#4269
On March 08 2014 19:34 Ace wrote:
I think the Clippers are actually as close to the best team as possible in the West if they can get anything out of a third big. Chris Paul is the third best player in the league, and even has a claim for #2. Blake is obviously a star and DJ is the man. Once Redick comes back their top 4 is lights out.


Got to disagree with the cp3 sentiment. Objectively, he is probably the best player in the NBA at the skills of basketball. But physically he is so far behind because of size, health, etc. I wouldn't consider him top 5.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 08 2014 16:27 GMT
#4270
CP3 is the 3rd/4th best player in the NBA, it is really really close with Paul George. His size is definitely his biggest disadvantage though.

And yes, watch out for Memphis. They coming on lately, and they play a "playoff style" basketball already, so they are a scary match for any team that gets them.

I think SAS is looking a little old too, but you never know. With Popovich, they could just be saving it for the final stretch.

Por, Phx, Dal are all just first round exits. Though if the Clippers end at #4 and Portland at #5, the Blazers would have homecourt advantage which would make it a more entertaining series at least (clips still have edge though).

"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
March 08 2014 17:56 GMT
#4271
Memphis still can't shoot, their offense (neither Prince nor Allen needs to be even remotely covered) is going to kill them despite the Big Burrito (Gasol's HS nickname is amazing) being back.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 18:53:21
March 08 2014 18:45 GMT
#4272
With all this talk about who has the best chance in the west, how much chance would you give that team against the Heat? Of course, it could be the Pacers this time, but the way the two teams are playing right now, the Heat are looking pretty good for another Finals appearance.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
March 08 2014 19:16 GMT
#4273
Provided full health all around (Wade obv, but always some disappointing ankle sprains etc come playoffs so this is both unlikely and impossible to account for) I think it's pretty easy to make the case that the Heat are the favorite. That said, any team that makes it out of this West is going to have to be playing really good basketball and should be very competitive.

Or are you looking for more matchup specifics? i.e. How would Clipps-Heat compare to Rockets-Heat etc?
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 08 2014 20:27 GMT
#4274
I just want to know what people think about whatever team they have coming out of the west vs the Heat.

Personally, I like the Clippers the most against the Heat. Thunder are up there too, but something just feels off about them. I don't think the Warriors, Blazers, or Rockets will matchup too well against them. And even though they're second seed, I'm still calling the Spurs a dark horse team, because they're always extremely quiet, and then when playoffs come around, they explode past everyone else.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 08 2014 21:38 GMT
#4275
Lots of fun discussion going on. I'm just going to chime in with my opinion that HOU would actually be a pretty dangerous matchup for the Heat if they met in the finals. Dwight is playing like his pre-injury self, and is the kind of mobile defensive big that is capable of keeping Lebron and Wade under control in the paint. Having a healthy Asik coming off of the bench would give them a second such player, which is a luxury few teams have.

Also, D12's fully capable of tracking a guy like Bosh on defense, and yet Bosh has no chance of guarding him on the other end. If they force MIA to play two bigs, then Lebron isn't able to do his worst damage playing at PF. At the same time, HOU has enough ball handling spread around that they have a pretty good chance of being able to handle MIA's aggressive/trapping defense about as well as anyone.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#4276
the spurs are still very dangerous as a team, even if their talent is old now. its really easy to doubt them this year given tim duncan being really old but how can you doubt the spurs??

westbrook will get his nba head back, okc needs him anyway

pacers are having the worst time of their season, if they can figure out a working offense then i think they can give heat a very hard time, otherwise its going to be the heat in the finals.

clippers are doing a lot better, they're really scary right now, if their team snaps in place for the playoffs then they can win it all

i dont think houston is that great. they're good, but i think this is their peak and the western conference has to get worse before they have a chance at the finals
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 09 2014 03:27 GMT
#4277
lol portland slipped 5 spots? wow
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13008 Posts
March 09 2014 07:01 GMT
#4278
On March 08 2014 22:57 Ace wrote:
Blake was injured last year in the playoffs :/


Come on, they got spanked. You really think that's the reason they lost?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13008 Posts
March 09 2014 07:03 GMT
#4279
On March 09 2014 06:38 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Lots of fun discussion going on. I'm just going to chime in with my opinion that HOU would actually be a pretty dangerous matchup for the Heat if they met in the finals. Dwight is playing like his pre-injury self, and is the kind of mobile defensive big that is capable of keeping Lebron and Wade under control in the paint. Having a healthy Asik coming off of the bench would give them a second such player, which is a luxury few teams have.

Also, D12's fully capable of tracking a guy like Bosh on defense, and yet Bosh has no chance of guarding him on the other end. If they force MIA to play two bigs, then Lebron isn't able to do his worst damage playing at PF. At the same time, HOU has enough ball handling spread around that they have a pretty good chance of being able to handle MIA's aggressive/trapping defense about as well as anyone.


I think the Rockets remind me a bit of the Bulls in 2011. They've got the talent to compete with Miami and they're deep.

Ironic that Perk could actually find himself as a useful basketball player again if he matches up vs Dwight =D
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
March 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#4280
On March 09 2014 16:01 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 22:57 Ace wrote:
Blake was injured last year in the playoffs :/


Come on, they got spanked. You really think that's the reason they lost?

It was certainly a major contributor.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
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