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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 02 2014 08:13 GMT
#12921
Even Watzke himself said that people who critizise Bayern for always trying to improve and dominate are dumb.
This is our town, scrub
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 02 2014 08:51 GMT
#12922
On March 02 2014 16:01 ManniBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
Its Dortmund, Leverkusen and Schalkes fault that they cant keep up.


Said by the Bayern Fanboy /facepalm.

Bayern buys players to hurt their opponents since 40 years. They killed Bremen and Leverkusen in the early 2000s (Basler, Klose, Ismael, Gomez, Elber, Lucio, Ze Roberto, Ballack) and now they did the same with Dortmund.

What Bayern does is just a disgrace for the Bundesliga. Not even Barca or Real are that ruthless and just buy players to weaken their opponents.


Fun fact: in the last 20 years Dortmund, Hamburg and Wolfsburg acually bought more players from bayern then they selled:

Dortmund
selled Mario Götze, Torsten Frings, Thomas Helmer, Robert Lewandowski
and
bought Mats Hummels, Christian Nerlinger (a former Bayern manger), Mats Hummels, Jürgen Wegmann, Michael Rummenigge (fun fact nr.2 he is the brother of the current Bayern CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge)

Hamburg
selled 4 players including Hasan Salihamidzic, god i still love this guy and Daniel van Buyten
and
bought a total of 7

Wolfsburg
selled 3 with only Mario Mandzukic as a "good"
and
bought 5 including CL winner Luiz Gustavo.


You can argue that Götze was something like a "weakening of opponents" ignoring the fact that he is just one of the biggest talants in europe, but with Lewandoski it is different:
He is not buyed out of his contract it ran out and he is a free agent in summer. It is not Bayern Munichs fault that Dortmund wasn´t able to extend his contract and if he is free, why not take him?
Mauru
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany8 Posts
March 02 2014 09:29 GMT
#12923
On March 02 2014 17:51 Micro_Jackson wrote:

Fun fact: in the last 20 years Dortmund, Hamburg and Wolfsburg acually bought more players from bayern then they selled:

Dortmund
selled Mario Götze, Torsten Frings, Thomas Helmer, Robert Lewandowski
and
bought Mats Hummels, Christian Nerlinger (a former Bayern manger), Mats Hummels, Jürgen Wegmann, Michael Rummenigge (fun fact nr.2 he is the brother of the current Bayern CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge)


Counting Hummels two times.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 02 2014 10:28 GMT
#12924
On March 02 2014 18:29 Mauru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 17:51 Micro_Jackson wrote:

Fun fact: in the last 20 years Dortmund, Hamburg and Wolfsburg acually bought more players from bayern then they selled:

Dortmund
selled Mario Götze, Torsten Frings, Thomas Helmer, Robert Lewandowski
and
bought Mats Hummels, Christian Nerlinger (a former Bayern manger), Mats Hummels, Jürgen Wegmann, Michael Rummenigge (fun fact nr.2 he is the brother of the current Bayern CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge)


Counting Hummels two times.


I cheated a bit but it is not an error, he was on a loan in 07/08, returned to Bayern and was selled to Dortmund again in 09/10.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6325 Posts
March 02 2014 10:29 GMT
#12925
What does it matter how many players they buy and sell if the ones they buy are always the best in their opponents selection and the ones they sell the worst or the ones benched in their own. Bayern is a buyers club they don't sell their best players.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 10:48:30
March 02 2014 10:42 GMT
#12926
It's not about quantity. Ajax have more players leave for smaller teams than bigger teams, but you can be sure that they miss Suarez and Vertonghen a hell of a lot more than they miss Lukoki and Goossens. Same with Feyenoord and PSV, big teams have lots of rejects.

On March 02 2014 17:13 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Even Watzke himself said that people who critizise Bayern for always trying to improve and dominate are dumb.


Yet Watzke complains about City every chance he gets. It's a joke that old money can act like douches and yet new money gets criticized at every opportunity for doing the same. Of course I can understand Bayern doing what they are doing, but that doesn't mean that I like it and nor should the German FA. To me Financial Fair play would be great if it actually took everyone into account.
Mauru
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany8 Posts
March 02 2014 10:42 GMT
#12927
On March 02 2014 19:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
I cheated a bit but it is not an error, he was on a loan in 07/08, returned to Bayern and was selled to Dortmund again in 09/10.

I'm sorry but that is wrong, Dortmund bought him before the loan end.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
March 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#12928
On March 02 2014 19:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 18:29 Mauru wrote:
On March 02 2014 17:51 Micro_Jackson wrote:

Fun fact: in the last 20 years Dortmund, Hamburg and Wolfsburg acually bought more players from bayern then they selled:

Dortmund
selled Mario Götze, Torsten Frings, Thomas Helmer, Robert Lewandowski
and
bought Mats Hummels, Christian Nerlinger (a former Bayern manger), Mats Hummels, Jürgen Wegmann, Michael Rummenigge (fun fact nr.2 he is the brother of the current Bayern CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge)


Counting Hummels two times.


I cheated a bit but it is not an error, he was on a loan in 07/08, returned to Bayern and was selled to Dortmund again in 09/10.


But loan isn't buying LOL
But does it djent?
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#12929
On March 02 2014 19:42 Mauru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
I cheated a bit but it is not an error, he was on a loan in 07/08, returned to Bayern and was selled to Dortmund again in 09/10.

I'm sorry but that is wrong, Dortmund bought him before the loan end.


Hmm i have to admit i am not sure, i just took the data from http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/mats-hummels/transfers/spieler_39728.html and mybe i missread it.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 02 2014 11:32 GMT
#12930
Feyeenord vs Ajax
ACMilan vs Juventus
Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid

Today is a good day. If RM wins this game then you can say that they're the champions of la liga.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
March 02 2014 11:52 GMT
#12931
still only 3 points ahead of Barcelona even if they win. They're not gonna slip up much but you can't rule out Barcelona winning the rest and real losing one. :p
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 02 2014 12:07 GMT
#12932
I think it's just fanboys of the current flavor of the month team that are butthurt about Bayern. No one gives a shit when Bayern sign Jan Kirchhoff or Sebastian Rode on a pre-contract, but when they sign Robert Lewandowski to one, Bayern are evil and destroying the Bundesliga. Just an observation.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18766 Posts
March 02 2014 12:13 GMT
#12933
On March 02 2014 21:07 Ferrose wrote:
I think it's just fanboys of the current flavor of the month team that are butthurt about Bayern. No one gives a shit when Bayern sign Jan Kirchhoff or Sebastian Rode on a pre-contract, but when they sign Robert Lewandowski to one, Bayern are evil and destroying the Bundesliga. Just an observation.


No, Bayern has always been evil. It's just nowadays they really do it out of spite
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 02 2014 12:15 GMT
#12934
Cause it's Bayern's fault that those other teams agree to sell their players.
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 02 2014 12:20 GMT
#12935
It's Bayern's fault to give astronomical wages that other teams can't afford.
On March 02 2014 20:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
still only 3 points ahead of Barcelona even if they win. They're not gonna slip up much but you can't rule out Barcelona winning the rest and real losing one. :p

I just can't see this RM dropping points :>

Even though they lose against Barca in the future, they'll be still ahead thanks to average.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 02 2014 13:07 GMT
#12936
On March 02 2014 21:20 Mensol wrote:
It's Bayern's fault to give astronomical wages that other teams can't afford.
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 20:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
still only 3 points ahead of Barcelona even if they win. They're not gonna slip up much but you can't rule out Barcelona winning the rest and real losing one. :p

I just can't see this RM dropping points :>

Even though they lose against Barca in the future, they'll be still ahead thanks to average.


astronomical wages @ Bayern? Do you even football?
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
March 02 2014 13:15 GMT
#12937
I would prefer that Draxler stays at Schalke, but the truth is he will very likely leave Schalke in the summer . If Bayern doesn't buy him, then another top club will.

Schalke's results in the last 2 years were bad and they show no signs of progression, despite having some top players in their roster. Draxler wants to move to a top club and make the next step in his career, it's understandable.

And to be honest I'd rather see Draxler at Bayern than see another star player leave the Bundesliga for a Premier League club, they have so much money they could bleed the Bundesliga dry of talent if it wasn't for Bayern.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 13:58:09
March 02 2014 13:57 GMT
#12938


Come on Sunderland!
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 14:54:47
March 02 2014 14:11 GMT
#12939
1-0 Sunderland! Borini scores after being put through by Larsson Johnson.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 02 2014 14:30 GMT
#12940
On March 02 2014 22:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:20 Mensol wrote:
It's Bayern's fault to give astronomical wages that other teams can't afford.
On March 02 2014 20:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
still only 3 points ahead of Barcelona even if they win. They're not gonna slip up much but you can't rule out Barcelona winning the rest and real losing one. :p

I just can't see this RM dropping points :>

Even though they lose against Barca in the future, they'll be still ahead thanks to average.


astronomical wages @ Bayern? Do you even football?

It's astronomical in Bundesliga standarts isnt it?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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