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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 03 2014 11:59 GMT
#9881
I love the Man City squad, it's just so awesome. So much balance and so many choices for the manager. It's all held together by Yaya Toure, he is the glue of the team. The perfect interface between defence and attack.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
January 03 2014 12:02 GMT
#9882
Checked it; he played as a starter against Stoke in September, then had three short appearances coming from the bench and caught an injury on October 30, during Capital One Cup game against Newcastle. So it's been actually 2 months, not 4.

97 minutes in 4 matches in total; not much indeed.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
January 03 2014 12:02 GMT
#9883
Aguero.. rotate rest?

ezpz
Moderator
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
January 03 2014 12:32 GMT
#9884
Sorry if there is a fantasy PL thread, I don't see it.

This is a simple brag post, I'm top of the TL group by one point
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 03 2014 12:43 GMT
#9885
Lol Thanks for sharing Lettuce
Trizen stopped playing after like week 8 when he found out no prizes were given lolol.

Also indeed Twisted, u play Aguero with either Dzeko Negredo or Jovetic, but im sat as a Chelsea fan thinking fml what i wouldn't give for a Dzeko Negredo or Jovetic as our main striker lol. Im sure Arsenal the same xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 13:00:01
January 03 2014 12:53 GMT
#9886
On January 03 2014 21:32 Dr.Lettuce wrote:
Sorry if there is a fantasy PL thread, I don't see it.

This is a simple brag post, I'm top of the TL group by one point


congratz I'm having a rough couple weeks with half my squad out injured lol.

On January 03 2014 20:22 Kenpark wrote:

Ye Bayern was so horrible with Badstuber they only managed to get to the cl finale twice with Badstuber as a regular ...

Sry but calling Badstuber horrible just shows you know nothing about football.


Neither Bayern defense was particularly outstanding at the time though. Badstuber is a great player, but I do have my doubts if he would have made the Chelsea or Inter squad they lost against.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 03 2014 13:13 GMT
#9887
The fantasy football this year has been quite pathetic looking, everyone up 'til now has had the same players because the options have been so obvious.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 03 2014 13:37 GMT
#9888
On January 03 2014 21:53 Ysellian wrote:
Neither Bayern defense was particularly outstanding at the time though. Badstuber is a great player, but I do have my doubts if he would have made the Chelsea or Inter squad they lost against.

I just wrote a huge wall of text about that, but meh, fuck it. Stuff about team cohesion while defending etc. Basically the key figure of Bayern 11/12 was Schweinsteiger, and the key transfer after that season was Martinez, not Dante.

I don't understand why so many people rate Özil so highly tho. He can decide games with one genius moment and is generally extremely talented, but he is so unstable and useless way too often for an outstanding player imo. Basically like Podolski, just a tier better.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 03 2014 13:47 GMT
#9889
Yeah but i don't rate players because of their defense splitting passing, their general all round passing for me is key. You see it in teams like Barca and Madrid and now Chelsea. You have these great passes Mata/Oscar/Hazard/Iniesta/Messi/Neymar/Ronaldo/Isco/Bale etcetc these players need the ball at their feet quickly so they have more time to make the killer ball. This is done by the world class player who can find the passed stupidly quick. Xavi, Ozil, Pirlo, Alonso etcetc they are they players who make the pass before the pass which makes the goal xD
Thats why i rate Ozil high, not because he makes the killer pass once in a while, but that he starts off the attack which leads to the goal on counters etc xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 03 2014 13:53 GMT
#9890
I watch a lot of Bayern games and yes Boateng improved a lot over the last months but in many key situations he is just too slow. against easy opponents and bad strikers thats not an issue and therefore you dont notice it hat often in the bundesliga but against mancity for example he looked soo bad. now im not saying he is terrible, but i wouldnt put him in any fantasy 11
This is our town, scrub
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 14:13:19
January 03 2014 14:08 GMT
#9891
On January 03 2014 22:37 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 21:53 Ysellian wrote:
Neither Bayern defense was particularly outstanding at the time though. Badstuber is a great player, but I do have my doubts if he would have made the Chelsea or Inter squad they lost against.

I just wrote a huge wall of text about that, but meh, fuck it. Stuff about team cohesion while defending etc. Basically the key figure of Bayern 11/12 was Schweinsteiger, and the key transfer after that season was Martinez, not Dante.

I don't understand why so many people rate Özil so highly tho. He can decide games with one genius moment and is generally extremely talented, but he is so unstable and useless way too often for an outstanding player imo. Basically like Podolski, just a tier better.



I don't disagree, I was arguing about Badstuber in particular.

About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 14:36:12
January 03 2014 14:35 GMT
#9892
Yeah exactly i could write a huge summary of why some teams and Chelsea in particular are crying out for that kind of player but i think we all know the point. Every team needs a midfielder who can get on the ball quickly and pass it quickly to the attacking flair players and striker so they have time on the ball to then pick out the final pass which is the key to the 4-2-3-1 formation. Chelsea have not got this player, Arsenal have but they pansy about with it. Barcelona have that player and thus they score for fun, however their defense is non existent thus they struggle sometimes. But that is the key to playing this wonderful football imo.

Also City and Yaya, this is what i mean.


Look at the time Nasri gets to have on the ball now thanks to that pass which takes out 2 players xD
Oh doesn't show long enough afterwards, but Nasri then had about 4 seconds on the ball to do whatever he wanted!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 15:08:34
January 03 2014 15:00 GMT
#9893
On January 03 2014 23:08 Ysellian wrote:
About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.

Exactly that is a a skillset where I wouldn't even rate Özil as the lone number 1 in Germany anymore tho, which is my point.

Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 03 2014 15:14 GMT
#9894
Messi's 50 days of absence, while he healed and trained in argentina was the longest time he has ever spent away from barcelona, lol.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 03 2014 15:41 GMT
#9895
It doesn't help that players like Yaya Toure are way way way rarer than the CAM dudes that are floating around everywhere.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 03 2014 15:48 GMT
#9896
Yeah, was a report or a interview about that the other week. Everyone wants to be a no 10 now growing up they all want to be that player. None of them want to be a winger anymore or a striker. It's all no 10 no 10 no 10. Everyone before long is going to be sat with a Chelsea squad of awesome no10s and no one else xD

The more i read into things the more i think Mata is going to be sold in the Summer unless he really does turn his game into the high press high energetic performance that Mourinho requires.
Just read another report by unreliable sources at best though, that Mata wants to stay and will never leave Chelsea unless Chelsea say he is not needed. What i hope is that when he got taken off vs Southampton it only spurs him on to do things better or at least do things the Mourinho way xD
I also think this might be another Mourinho vs Casillas moment xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 03 2014 15:53 GMT
#9897
He's such an amazing player, character, loyal guy. Genuinely all around perfect club player. It hurts so much to see Mou dislike him. Oscar may have a better defensive range but he doesn't have anything like the same levels of composure and grace under pressure. I remember in the CL final Mata outran everyone on the team in terms of distance covered. He puts in a massive shift. Just because he isn't as much of a presser doesn't mean he doesn't contribute massively to the team, he's no Berbatov or Adebayor for christ's sake.

I really hope it gets resolved with Mata staying with us!!!! If he goes somewhere else in the prem it's going to hurt like a mother.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 03 2014 15:54 GMT
#9898
On January 04 2014 00:48 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah, was a report or a interview about that the other week. Everyone wants to be a no 10 now growing up they all want to be that player. None of them want to be a winger anymore or a striker. It's all no 10 no 10 no 10. Everyone before long is going to be sat with a Chelsea squad of awesome no10s and no one else xD

The more i read into things the more i think Mata is going to be sold in the Summer unless he really does turn his game into the high press high energetic performance that Mourinho requires.
Just read another report by unreliable sources at best though, that Mata wants to stay and will never leave Chelsea unless Chelsea say he is not needed. What i hope is that when he got taken off vs Southampton it only spurs him on to do things better or at least do things the Mourinho way xD
I also think this might be another Mourinho vs Casillas moment xD


we have the generation inspired by zidane/totti now, haven't we?
In about 10 years we will have tons of false nines I reckon.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 03 2014 16:08 GMT
#9899
Why did this happen to mata anyway, I remember he was a top spanish prospect, he also played well in the last euro and now suddenly mou wants to sell him? what gives
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 16:13:33
January 03 2014 16:09 GMT
#9900
Lol yeah false 9s....god dammit xD

On January 04 2014 01:08 Steveling wrote:
Why did this happen to mata anyway, I remember he was a top spanish prospect, he also played well in the last euro and now suddenly mou wants to sell him? what gives


Mourinho rates Oscar better in that position, he also wants Mata to play more like Oscar in that he defends and attacks at the same level of intensity. No doubt Mata is awesome going forward and passing, but Mourinho wants all 11 players to defend together, 1 person slips up and the team is unbalanced.
That is why he thinks Mata is a luxury and not a necessity.
However lots of people disagree, some Chelsea fans and other sports journalists and whatever. I think Mata Oscar Hazard are the 3 best players to play behind the striker we have and should play together most of the time. However i also concede that Willian is now playing awesome as well with as much commitment to the defensive side of the game as Oscar as well as a great shot and awesome turn of pace. Another person Mata has to compete with to play. xD

But like sc4k says, Mata in the champions league final covered more ground on the pitch than any other Chelsea player. (All be it Ramires was suspended, but still shows he gets about)
What might happen is that come the Summer after the World Cup a team like PSG or Barca even might throw some money at Chelsea and if all this is true about what Mourinho thinks he will tell the club to accept the money.

Be a good player for Barca though xD Help replace Xavi and such
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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