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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 16:23:24
January 03 2014 16:21 GMT
#9901
If Mata really wants to leave then he should go to PSG :d Actually he would be so useful for ManU too.

Lavezzi, Mata, Lucas/Menez, Ibra, Cavani fkn scary :d
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 16:34:27
January 03 2014 16:27 GMT
#9902
Beast as hell.

I think a nice setup for our team would actually be:

-----------------------------[striker]--------------------------

Hazard---------------------Mata-----------------Ramires

--------------Lampard / Oscar/Luiz (depending on opponent)

Cole-------------Terry-------------Cahill------------Ivanovic

I think both Oscar and Luiz belong in midfield and actually Oscar has the perfect attributes for a CM, good passing, good control but also a reasonable defender with more defensive ability than most people with his paltry physique.

Also, Ramires imo should play winger. I think he has always been best there. A great defensive cover for our RB, can use his supreme pace and gets into scoring positions more often (he is one of our best finishers). He is also horrific on the ball, can't pass for toffee but can cross well so I don't like seeing him in the centre personally. I feel this team would be beastly as hell. Willian and Schurrle etc can be on the bench. Although I have to admit this fiercely lethal team I have set out would be better on the counter than in a high possession style which seems to be what Mou wants to do (probs with nudging from Roman).
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 03 2014 16:48 GMT
#9903
Mata should go to ManUnited if Mou doesn't want him at Chelsea for whatever Mou reasons lol
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 03 2014 17:20 GMT
#9904
Only way he goes to yanited if part of the deal involves Rooney to come to us

Also yeah that team is fine sc4k i agree. Always thought and i believe Oscar thinks too his best position is a CM. Having him alongside Luiz or even Ramires there is what i would do.
Then i would have Willian on the wing with Mata in the middle again.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 17:35:39
January 03 2014 17:35 GMT
#9905
On January 04 2014 00:00 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 23:08 Ysellian wrote:
About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.

Exactly that is a a skillset where I wouldn't even rate Özil as the lone number 1 in Germany anymore tho, which is my point.


Except that Özil doesn't just make thr last pass once in a while like Pande said but does it more frequently than any other player. What makes him so amazing in my eyes is that for him giving thr assist is as important as scoring a goal himself.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 03 2014 17:36 GMT
#9906
On January 04 2014 00:00 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 23:08 Ysellian wrote:
About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.

Exactly that is a a skillset where I wouldn't even rate Özil as the lone number 1 in Germany anymore tho, which is my point.



Who would you rate above him, then?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
January 03 2014 17:44 GMT
#9907
On January 04 2014 02:36 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 00:00 clusen wrote:
On January 03 2014 23:08 Ysellian wrote:
About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.

Exactly that is a a skillset where I wouldn't even rate Özil as the lone number 1 in Germany anymore tho, which is my point.



Who would you rate above him, then?


Götze, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Neuer? Or am i missing something in the conversation that excludes them?
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 03 2014 17:51 GMT
#9908
As a german I´m not the biggest Özil fan either. He mostly lacks work rate and defensive contribution. I hope in our national squad we either play Kroos vs stronger teams or Götze on the 10. Wingers being Müller and Reus,
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 03 2014 17:55 GMT
#9909
Müller as well. I think he is one of the unchangeable of Germany. Such a underrated player tho.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 18:05:08
January 03 2014 18:00 GMT
#9910
I'm surprised noone has mentioned Ibrahimovic in his personal dreamteam (or maybe I missed it).
Mine would look something like

Neuer (btw how is Muslera doing atm? In my memory he and Casillas were the best keepers in 2010 WC)
Lahm-Boateng-Kompany-??? (not sure, maybe Alaba. I feel left/right back is the position with the least world class players/most challenging position in today's football. Also I don't know too much about non-Bundesliga-defenders)
Schweinsteiger
Messi-Ronaldo-Ribery-Suarez-Ibrahimovic in no specific tactical position.

Also I'm probably late to the party
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 18:39:28
January 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#9911
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18726 Posts
January 03 2014 18:45 GMT
#9912
On January 04 2014 03:37 wingpawn wrote:
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...


This motivation and the players' love of him is one of Mourinho's strengths.
You won't see a player who has played under Mourinho say bad things of him
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 18:58:13
January 03 2014 18:57 GMT
#9913
Lol xD
Ibrahimvoic is to hot and cold for me. He only scores wonder goals and only turns up randomly. Like Drogba towards end of his career at Chelsea. Used to just own house in games vs Yanited/City/Arsenal and Champs League xD

On January 04 2014 03:45 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 03:37 wingpawn wrote:
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...


This motivation and the players' love of him is one of Mourinho's strengths.
You won't see a player who has played under Mourinho say bad things of him


Which as long as he has a career as long as Fergies, is why he should be ranked better than Sir Alex due to the face most players DONT like Fergie after they leave (Beckham/Keane/Stamm etcetc)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 18:58:23
January 03 2014 18:58 GMT
#9914
On January 04 2014 03:45 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 03:37 wingpawn wrote:
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...


This motivation and the players' love of him is one of Mourinho's strengths.
You won't see a player who has played under Mourinho say bad things of him


Pretty sure Casillas and Adán would disagree with that statement.

I agree in that his mind and ways of motivation are Mou's forte tho.
Revolutionist fan
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 03 2014 19:03 GMT
#9915
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has been charged by The FA over post-match media comments he made following his side’s game against Manchester City on 26 December 2013.

It is alleged the comments by Rodgers called into question the integrity of the match referee, and/or implied that the match referee was motivated by bias; and/or brought the game into disrepute; and/or amounted to a failure to act in the best interests of the game.

Rodgers has until 6pm on 8 January 2014 to respond to the charge.


Source

Comments that got him into trouble
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 03 2014 20:03 GMT
#9916
On January 04 2014 04:03 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has been charged by The FA over post-match media comments he made following his side’s game against Manchester City on 26 December 2013.

It is alleged the comments by Rodgers called into question the integrity of the match referee, and/or implied that the match referee was motivated by bias; and/or brought the game into disrepute; and/or amounted to a failure to act in the best interests of the game.

Rodgers has until 6pm on 8 January 2014 to respond to the charge.


Source

Comments that got him into trouble

Was dumb of him to question the refs integrity, but how Mason and Webb arn´t finding themselves in the championship right now shows the complete incompetence of the FA.
"NO" -Has
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
January 03 2014 21:00 GMT
#9917
On January 04 2014 02:36 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 00:00 clusen wrote:
On January 03 2014 23:08 Ysellian wrote:
About Özil, I think the key feature to him apart from his splitting passes is exactly what Pandemona said. He makes the midfield tick simply with his ability to find passes quickly and accurately. I think he has had a couple of poor matches, but he usually is at the start of a lot of attacking moves. His stamina however is downright awful, which prevents him from reaching a higher level.

Exactly that is a a skillset where I wouldn't even rate Özil as the lone number 1 in Germany anymore tho, which is my point.



Who would you rate above him, then?

I love Özil, but I don't think he is close to a perfect 10. Sure, some aspects of his play are at world class level for this position, others however are mediocre. Against some of Germany's opponents I would prefer Götze or Kroos to start instead of Özil for tactical reasons, they have different strengths and weaknesses.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
January 03 2014 21:34 GMT
#9918
On January 04 2014 03:58 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 03:45 sharkie wrote:
On January 04 2014 03:37 wingpawn wrote:
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...


This motivation and the players' love of him is one of Mourinho's strengths.
You won't see a player who has played under Mourinho say bad things of him


Pretty sure Casillas and Adán would disagree with that statement.

I agree in that his mind and ways of motivation are Mou's forte tho.

I'm sure at Real there were more players who didn't like him anymore and I don't think Mata is very happy either. THe rumours he's leaving aren't there for nothing.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 21:58:09
January 03 2014 21:57 GMT
#9919
On January 04 2014 06:34 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 03:58 Salteador Neo wrote:
On January 04 2014 03:45 sharkie wrote:
On January 04 2014 03:37 wingpawn wrote:
Well Mafe, you had David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Marcelo, Jordi Alba, Davide Santon and Ricardo Rodriguez to choose from; it's not like the LB spot isn't stacked (even though many clubs have problems with quality of their left-backs).

I wonder how Mourinho convinces Mata and other bench-warmers that they are still important to the team...


This motivation and the players' love of him is one of Mourinho's strengths.
You won't see a player who has played under Mourinho say bad things of him


Pretty sure Casillas and Adán would disagree with that statement.

I agree in that his mind and ways of motivation are Mou's forte tho.

I'm sure at Real there were more players who didn't like him anymore and I don't think Mata is very happy either. THe rumours he's leaving aren't there for nothing.


Mata isn't too happy, but he is far too nice to clash with Mourinho in the same way Casillas did. I think Mata will have a big role to play in the later stages of the season as he is simply going to be far fitter than the rest haha. No way Mourinho is letting Mata go to any champions league/EPL rival, he is far too good of a player.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 23:56:57
January 03 2014 23:52 GMT
#9920


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lol

Just go to PSG Mata You dont deserve to experience things like that
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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