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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#8221
Holy... this Florentine versus Verona game is insane. 4 goals in just 15 minutes.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 02 2013 20:07 GMT
#8222
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Wooo go Chelsea reserves still leading in Netherlands :3


Which is not really a good thing btw.

If a team that solely relies on getting their success from loanees that are gone next season, the league will just drop in value even more because they'll take valuable Champions League spots for example which bring in a shitload of money for Dutch clubs. Ajax has a budget of around €70m and when they can get 20m+ from the CL it's a huge boost financially.

They're not selling out their stadium seats by a long shot, even against top teams, so them getting a lot of reserves from Chelsea is not helping the club themselves because no-one likes them because of it. And it definitely isn't helping the league. If Vitesse for example reaches Champions League with players that are on loan this season, they'll just fail miserably in the next season when they have to build up an entire new team.

Oh and regarding the previous discussion, I guess it has to be a Dutch thing then yeah. This is basically standard knowledge for Dutch football fans haha. Defenders are bad at playing with the ball at their feet so that's why they're defenders :p. I think it's also the total football style where every footballer should be able to fulfill every role on the pitch (apart from goalkeeping obviously). We demand that our defenders are actually good on the ball as well instead of just being big and fast.

And yeah our defenders being bad is kind of an overrated thought imo. We generally don't concede that many goals. We're just overly critical of our defenders. It's usually just the depth of our team and the fact that we haven't been lucky in deciding moments that we haven't won as much as we 'should'.
I mean.. 1974 we were the best team but lost for I dunno what reason exactly. 1978 our best players bailed on the world cup and we hit the post in the final which would result in a win if we got a goal. 1998 we were great as well. We missed 2 penalties during regular time against Brasil in the semi-final afaik and then lost the penalty shoot-out. 2010 we didn't win literally by a toe-length.
With a little more luck we could've won 3 world cups at least and no-one would mention we can never win anything.

Fwiw there's a very good generation of defenders popping up right now.


Hah complaining "could've won 3 world cups"... I want Finland qualify to WC or EC group stage withing next 30 years for the first time
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
December 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#8223
Actually, two missed penalties for Holland in regular time happened in EURO 2000 semifinal agianst Italy, not in 1998 against Brazil. (BTW, that game vs Italy was the most one-sided game I've ever seen in which the better playing team lost in the end).
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#8224
League goals by Frenchmen 2013-14:

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@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 22:39:17
December 02 2013 21:57 GMT
#8225
"Pirlo set to miss crucial Galatasaray clash"

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2031873.html#pirlo miss crucial galatasaray clash

woo great great news for us I think we have very good chance against Juve in Istanbul

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2513883/Yilmaz-Vural-manage-England-next.html

I hope its true lol. He can bring dozens of Turkish fans to Premier League. We call him Sir Yilmaz Vural in Turkey because he started same time with Ferguson and he managed 22 teams in that time ahaha.

This Balotelli picture is quite epic lol.
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If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#8226
On December 03 2013 05:27 wingpawn wrote:
Actually, two missed penalties for Holland in regular time happened in EURO 2000 semifinal agianst Italy, not in 1998 against Brazil. (BTW, that game vs Italy was the most one-sided game I've ever seen in which the better playing team lost in the end).

Oh how I cursed the dutch team then. The 1998/2000 squad was the greatest dutch team I ever witnessed, but they couldn't score penalties to save their lives. Should have beaten Brazil and should have beaten Italy
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 03 2013 10:15 GMT
#8227
Daily Express reporting that Arsenal have agreed a deal with Real Madrid to sign highly-rated striker Alvaro Morata on loan in the January transfer window.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 03 2013 11:59 GMT
#8228
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2517141/Manchester-City-complete-swoop-14-year-old-Brahim-Abdelkader-Diaz-dubbed-new-Lionel-Messi.html

Dubbed as the new messi(yeah right, but still) man.city signed him for 2.9m, wtf 3 millions for a 14 year old.
I guess he's almost sure to be good though since they snatched him away from barca and the deal was done by Pep's brother.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 03 2013 12:06 GMT
#8229
Thought it was illegal/against rules to buy players for money under the age of 18?
Also why fuck would he choose Man City over Barcelona. He is a kid and needs to develop.....developing with Barcelona youth system which is worldly renowned as one of the best if not the best. Or go to Man City, full of cash who don't have a good youth set up, nor do they have any renowned success from it. I just don't get that decision at all.

In another word, why leave Barcelona development to go to Man City...why not stay and become even better at Barcelona youth set up, then go to Man City if you really want to after 0.O
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
December 03 2013 12:10 GMT
#8230
On December 03 2013 21:06 Pandemona wrote:
Thought it was illegal/against rules to buy players for money under the age of 18?
Also why fuck would he choose Man City over Barcelona. He is a kid and needs to develop.....developing with Barcelona youth system which is worldly renowned as one of the best if not the best. Or go to Man City, full of cash who don't have a good youth set up, nor do they have any renowned success from it. I just don't get that decision at all.

In another word, why leave Barcelona development to go to Man City...why not stay and become even better at Barcelona youth set up, then go to Man City if you really want to after 0.O


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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 03 2013 12:11 GMT
#8231
Because he's 14 years old and can't really decide for himself properly and also his father probably thought "What if my son gets injured or never lives up to the hype, let's grab the 3m now", 3m after all is a hell of a lot of money.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 03 2013 12:12 GMT
#8232
Yeah i guess money is 90% factor in this, but surely there needs to be some wise person somewhere saying. Hey little man, your 14, play for Barcelona for 4 years, get the best training their is. Then move on if your not getting play time or whatever.
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
December 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#8233
On December 03 2013 02:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yeah goalkeeper I can accept more than defender. my impression from playing as a kid was that yeah, to some degree, the worst kid had to be goalkeeper to play. then there were some exceptions who were just really tall at a young age where they'd be alright outfield players also but they excelled at GK which made them want to play that.

But with defenders, that's not my perception from my Norwegian upbringing at all. My biggest football heroes growing up were usually defenders and some of the best players would be playing defense from the very beginning. In fact, from how I remember it, the crappy useless kids were usually strikers, seeing as how that's how they'd do the least amount of harm. Myself, I was a defender when I was good, and I ended up playing as a striker a couple years after I had swapped football practice for computer games and consequently no longer was good.


I think our team was pretty balanced but the terrible kids (at a young age) were strikers. They quit after a while though. I switched to midfield from defense when I was 12 or so, can't remember why. Maybe I was to small at that age to be CB

Goalkeepers are wierd, how many GKs are under 1.90. Either you need to start taking growth hormones or it's only a slim chance that the actual kid will be tall enough, right?
Would that also mean that most goalkeepers aren't really selected by talent but by length?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 03 2013 12:33 GMT
#8234
On December 03 2013 21:12 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i guess money is 90% factor in this, but surely there needs to be some wise person somewhere saying. Hey little man, your 14, play for Barcelona for 4 years, get the best training their is. Then move on if your not getting play time or whatever.


Or the parents know something about the kid and Man City are now stuck with a 14 year old asthma player Because other than that this doesn't make sense to me either. I mean moving from Feyenoord/Ajax to Man City is one thing, but Barcelona?
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
December 03 2013 13:17 GMT
#8235
Huh? He wasn't at Barca yet. Barca and ManCity were fighting who gets him. He comes from Malaga.
But does it djent?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 03 2013 13:54 GMT
#8236
Oooo lol
Well still...there is no question in the decision? Best Youth set up in the world vs not even top 10 in England? :S
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
December 03 2013 14:30 GMT
#8237
Given the fact that players in England are generally worth more then players with the same skill in other leagues it might be a good idea to start buidling up a reputation as soon as possible? Dunno, if he is as good as messi he couldstart playing premiere league in 2,5 years
This is our town, scrub
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
December 03 2013 15:10 GMT
#8238
On December 03 2013 07:57 Ysellian wrote:
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On December 03 2013 05:27 wingpawn wrote:
Actually, two missed penalties for Holland in regular time happened in EURO 2000 semifinal agianst Italy, not in 1998 against Brazil. (BTW, that game vs Italy was the most one-sided game I've ever seen in which the better playing team lost in the end).

Oh how I cursed the dutch team then. The 1998/2000 squad was the greatest dutch team I ever witnessed, but they couldn't score penalties to save their lives. Should have beaten Brazil and should have beaten Italy

I still remember 2000 with Toldo beasting it for Italy =/...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 03 2013 15:23 GMT
#8239
Back when Italy had like top 3 keepers in world in same team lol. ToldoAbbiati Buffon, was like da fuck xD All be it Buffon was injured i think but still had fucking awesome keepers.

Inter sat with Toldo on bench as they played Cesar as well xD Crazy times in Italy
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 03 2013 18:10 GMT
#8240
It seems like every day a kid gets branded 'the new Messi'.

There's a lot more to becoming successful than just having pure skill. You need a lot of determination and mental strength to reach a respected first team from being 14 years old.
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