EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 217
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mavignon
France369 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Sky Sports’ News Andy Burton brings us an update on Juan Mata, who has been linked with a move away from Chelsea all summer despite Jose Mourinho insisting he remains a key part of his plans at Stamford Bridge. Paris St Germain have been linked with a late swoop but it is understood that there is no truth in those reports and he will be staying with the Blues. Yup. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Transfer Deadline Day! Remaining!! Tottenham have enquired about Demba Ba Strong sources suggesting Lukaku is in with a Loan move to Everton Juan Mata agent continues to say the player does not want to leave Chelsea All Sources are from: SkySports.com Website | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's got about nothing to do with how much potential a player has. Ronaldo's technique is amazing but in the end he's playing for the camera and for himself. Bale is a more intelligent player imo, he's a more powerful one and his ability to score from wherever the hell he wants is unrivaled right now. It doesn't matter at all when and at what age a player starts to realize his potential. How does performing well at one of the biggest clubs in the world and growing out to be their best player have nothing to do with how much potential a player has? For all his selfishness he has been giving a lot of assists at both United and Real Madrid and I would think the amount of goals he scores warrants a bit of selfishness. On September 03 2013 02:56 city42 wrote: So a 2 time PFA Player of the Season has had one good season? Bale was never given Ronaldo's freedom until last year. Look at his progression (2010-11 was his first Player of the Season award): ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QqIbjhW.png) Also, Ronaldo only had one better scoring season at Man Utd than Bale had last year. Their career stats are skewed because Bale played his first 2 premier league seasons as a left back. Not saying he has the potential to be better than Ronaldo, but you're seriously misrepresenting his growth. He has been evolving into a world beater for a while. Ronaldo has been scoring 20+ goals since he broke trough and that was when he was 21 or 22. You're right that Bale has been making a lot of progress though and he is a very good player I just don't see him having the same amount of potential as Ronaldo. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:29 Steveling wrote: So who's better folks Neymar or Bale?  Bale is a more reliable purchase but they seem equally valuable. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:46 RvB wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 03 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's got about nothing to do with how much potential a player has. Ronaldo's technique is amazing but in the end he's playing for the camera and for himself. Bale is a more intelligent player imo, he's a more powerful one and his ability to score from wherever the hell he wants is unrivaled right now. It doesn't matter at all when and at what age a player starts to realize his potential. How does performing well at one of the biggest clubs in the world and growing out to be their best player have nothing to do with how much potential a player has? For all his selfishness he has been giving a lot of assists at both United and Real Madrid and I would think the amount of goals he scores warrants a bit of selfishness. On September 03 2013 02:56 city42 wrote: So a 2 time PFA Player of the Season has had one good season? Bale was never given Ronaldo's freedom until last year. Look at his progression (2010-11 was his first Player of the Season award): Also, Ronaldo only had one better scoring season at Man Utd than Bale had last year. Their career stats are skewed because Bale played his first 2 premier league seasons as a left back. Not saying he has the potential to be better than Ronaldo, but you're seriously misrepresenting his growth. He has been evolving into a world beater for a while. Ronaldo has been scoring 20+ goals since he broke trough and that was when he was 21 or 22. You're right that Bale has been making a lot of progress though and he is a very good player I just don't see him having the same amount of potential as Ronaldo. A question though, what's easier performing with a team that fights for the title or one that fights for spot in Europe? We'll see how he does at Real and then our questions will be answered  (La Decima is still far away though as far as I'm concerned :D ) | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:29 Steveling wrote: So who's better folks Neymar or Bale? 3 months ago I would say bale but after neymar's performance in confed cup I would rate them equally I expect neymar to improve more than bale though | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Why is everyone bashing Stan on talkSPORT? I assume that you're talking about Stan Kroenke. A lot of people blame him for Arsenal's decline, because it coincides with his arrival and because he hasn't really invested any money into the team. A lot of fans have the view that the only reason he owns the club is so that he can profit off of it, but I'm not convinced that that is the case. Plus the standard xenophobia/anti-American bias. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:46 RvB wrote: Ronaldo has been scoring 20+ goals since he broke trough and that was when he was 21 or 22. You're right that Bale has been making a lot of progress though and he is a very good player I just don't see him having the same amount of potential as Ronaldo. You're right, but Ronaldo always had more freedom to roam than Bale. Gary Neville wrote a piece last year about how the veteran players at Man Utd would get frustrated with Ronaldo for abandoning his position and just going wherever he wanted, but he'd always do something incredible to make up for it. Bale, on the other hand, was forced to stay on the left wing and deliver crosses for such fine strikers as Crouch and Pavlyuchenko. It was only last year when AVB took the chains off and let Bale play a more "Ronaldo-esque" role. So even though it's true that Ronaldo was scoring 20+ goals at age 21-22, and Bale only started doing so at age 23, we don't know what Bale would have been capable of at age 21 if he had the same tactical freedom. I still don't think Bale will end up better than Ronaldo, but that has more to do with Ronaldo's evolution at Madrid than anything else. He's much better now than he ever was at Man Utd. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:34 mavignon wrote: L'Equipe says PSG is trying to snatch Mata. That's definitely the kind of player we need at Paris. Nasser make it happen pls!! Literally fuck off PSG. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On September 03 2013 04:04 Ferrose wrote: I assume that you're talking about Stan Kroenke. A lot of people blame him for Arsenal's decline, because it coincides with his arrival and because he hasn't really invested any money into the team. A lot of fans have the view that the only reason he owns the club is so that he can profit off of it, but I'm not convinced that that is the case. Plus the standard xenophobia/anti-American bias. Stan Collymore(?) the DJ I believe. He went off earlier about TWitter. | ||
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On September 03 2013 04:17 zulu_nation8 wrote: Sahko to Liverpool is pretty big, not sure how they managed to pull that off. I think this is a great signing, like you I can´t believe how this happened! Great to see players being interested in a good project in a legendary club. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img6.mynet.com.tr/ha8/yazi/ozilformabasim.jpg) hmm? | ||
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