EPTChampions League/Europa League Thread 2012-13 - Page 27
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:03 M2 wrote: Coz it would have left at least one of the other couples to be teams from the same country or from the same group Indeed, didn't think of that :p, thanks. And I confirm, the round of 16 is played during 4 weeks with only 2 games each night. 12th/13th Feb 19th/20th Feb 5th/6th March 12th/13th March | ||
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:02 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote: Bayern conceded 7 goals in the bundesliga so far .... kkk ... they can't defend -_- My thoughts exactly | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:12 Stimp wrote: making money off of tv rights > a proper random draw of the two pots, apparently. World Cup are faaaaaaaaaaaar worse :p But, agreed. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4000 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28806 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:12 Stimp wrote: making money off of tv rights > a proper random draw of the two pots, apparently. It wasn't about TV broadcasts, a spanish team had to be drawn against Milan at this point or an all Spanish tie could not have been avoided. 4 Spanish teams were left for 4 ties. Now that left Barcelona and Malaga as valid options, but Malaga was in the same group as Milan ... | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:28 WillyWanker wrote: How is it more fair when everything is done so big countries don't meet each other? I'm in favor of a purely random draw so we get a real competition! Uhm I disagree: We see those teams from the same country playing each other often enough during the regular seaon of their leagues. The champions league has its special flavour from the matches between teams that don't meet regularly. If iIhad to choose between the about 17th editions of barca-real and bayern-dortmund in the last 5 years or could see barca-dortmund and bayern-real, I would not have to think for more than 3 seconds top pick the 2nd option, even though the first games are great rivalries. Also does "pure random draw" mean this should even involve the possibility of group winners drawing each other? That would be a really bad idea. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:44 Mafe wrote: Uhm I disagree: We see those teams from the same country playing each other often enough during the regular seaon of their leagues. The champions league has its special flavour from the matches between teams that don't meet regularly. If iIhad to choose between the about 17th editions of barca-real and bayern-dortmund in the last 5 years or could see barca-dortmund and bayern-real, I would not have to think for more than 3 seconds top pick the 2nd option, even though the first games are great rivalries. Also does "pure random draw" mean this should even involve the possibility of group winners drawing each other? That would be a really bad idea. Well if these teams face each other, one of them is going to be eliminated and the next match will not include 2 teams of the same country! As much as I like Clasicos, I would prefer to see a final between Barcelona and Bayern than a final between Barca and Real, and with the current system, it's more (not totally of course thanks to regular QF and SF) likely that Real and Barca will avoid each other until the final. Pure random draw would start from the group stage. For the Round of 16, number 1 of each group would face number 2 of any group. Of course Group stage need to have some meaning... If the teams don't care about being 1st or 2nd, that makes no sense. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Man Utd vs Real Madrid is going to be good, but a personal thing for me is seeing Ronaldo back at Man Utd and Mourinho vs Fergie again! Going to be a fkn epic press conference!! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Tyree
1508 Posts
Bayern will likely destroy Arsenal and no doubt that Real - United will get most of the media attention, first time Ronaldo is playing against his old team, then the added dissatisfaction that he has in Madrid atm, plus Mourinho and his own drama But... Even moreso because the last time these 2 teams met years ago gave us 2 of the best CL games of all time, the Old Trafford game when Ronaldo (the real, Brazilian one) was cheered by even United fans. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18651 Posts
On December 20 2012 21:07 Pandemona wrote: Oh also, shall i start to add in a mini Europa League post to the thread? Or just write it in as it goes along, the draw and the results from Round of 32 onwards. Or will their be interest in a whole thread for it? considering this thread doesnt have too much posts during CL matches (because the other one is used too) I doubt an own thread for the europe league would have any use, so just put europe league in here | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Europa League Draw! Draw Time 13:00 GMT (+00:00) For Both the Round of 32 & 16! The way the draw works for the Europa League is slightly different to the way it is worked for the Champions League. With it being a group stage format and having teams come down from the Champions League it has interesting seeding options which are as follows; Seeded Teams Liverpool(ENG) Plzeň(CZE) Fenerbahçe(TUR) Bordeaux(FRA) Steaua(ROU) Dnipro(UKR) Genk(BEL) Rubin(RUS) Lyon(FRA) Lazio(ITA) Metalist(UKR) Hannover(GER) Chelsea(ENG) CFR Cluj(ROU) Olympiacos(GRE) Benfica(POR) Unseeded Teams Anji(RUS) Atlético(ESP) Mönchengladbach(GER) Newcastle(ENG) Stuttgart(GER) Napoli(ITA) Basel(SUI) Internazionale(ITA) Sparta Praha(CZE) Tottenham(ENG) Leverkusen(GER) Levante(ESP) Zenit(RUS) BATE(BLR) Dynamo Kyiv(UKR) Ajax(NED) So that is how the teams are seeded and the way the draw works is that, any Seeded team can draw an Unseeded team aslong as they are not from the same country nor where they in the same group stage. Talking Point - both Liverpool and Chelsea could draw Atletico Madrid in the next round. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Seeded teams are the winners of the group and the best 4 number 3's from CL group play. Non-seeded teams are 2nd place finishers of the group and the worst 4 number 3's from CL group play. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
However i do see it is not done that way and it is done by points determine your position as seeded/unseeded when you drop down from the champs league, and EUROPA is all done based on group position. | ||
GTR
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