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Champions League/Europa League Thread 2012-13 - Page 28

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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 13:11:02
December 20 2012 13:09 GMT
#541
Well Arsenal and Milan are out and I doubt Celtic can cause another upset, but the rest are all pretty close matches I feel. Most exiting match is definitely going to be Man Utd vs Real Madrid, although it wouldn't surprise me at all at the moment for Ronaldo or Mourinho to just piss about.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 13:14:58
December 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#542
So if many of you have followed the champions league since 2004 onwards you will have noticed that Chelsea vs Liverpool happend EVERY year (4seasons out of 5). We met eachother in the Quarter Finals/Semi Finals, wonder what the odds are of Chelsea vs Liverpool in the round of 16 of the Europa, providing both teams win the Round of 32?

Open draw for Round of 16!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 13:46:05
December 20 2012 13:18 GMT
#543
So we are about to get underway with the Draw!!



Round of 32 Draw


BATE vs Fenerbahçe

Inter Milan vs FC Cluj

Levante vs Olympiacos

Zenit ST.Petersburg vs Liverpool

Dynamo Kyiv vs Bordeaux

Bayer Leverkusen vs Benfica

Newcastle vs Metalist

Stuttgart vs Genk

Atletico Madrid vs Rubin Kazan

Ajax vs Steaua

Basel vs Dnipro

Anji vs Hannover

Sparta Praha vs Chelsea

Mönchengladbach vs Lazio

Tottenham vs Lyon

Napoli vs Plzeň




Round of 16 Draw


Napoli or Plzeň vs BATE or Fenerbahçe

Bayer Leverkusen or Benfica vs Dynamo Kyiv or Bordeaux

Anji or Hannover vs Newcastle or Metalist

Stuttgart or Genk vs Mönchengladbach or Lazio

Tottenham or Lyon vs Inter Milan or FC Cluj

Levante or Olympiacos vs Atletico Madrid or Rubin Kazan

Basel or Dnipro vs Zenit ST.Petersburg or Liverpool

Ajax or Steaua vs Sparta Praha or Chelsea



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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 13:40:31
December 20 2012 13:39 GMT
#544
German teams got decent draws for the CL (I consider all three match-ups winnable), but EL doesn't look too good. Bayer-Benfica will be close, Stuttgart should beat Genk, but Anzhi/Lazio are bad news for Hannover/Gladbach, respectively.

Most promising EL fixtures are probably Liverpool - Zenit and Tottenham - Lyon.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 20 2012 13:44 GMT
#545
Man that was close!!!

Last 4 teams for round of 16 had potential of Chelsea vs Liverpool again, but luckily that never happend :D
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 13:56:31
December 20 2012 13:55 GMT
#546

[image loading]Galatasaray vs [image loading]Schalke 04
1st Leg; 20th February 2nd Leg; 12th March


[image loading]Celtic vs [image loading]Juventus
1st Leg; 12th February 2nd Leg; 6th March


[image loading]Arsenal vs [image loading]Bayern
1st Leg; 19th February 2nd Leg; 13th March


[image loading]Shakhtar Donnesk vs [image loading]Dortmund
1st Leg; 13th February 2nd Leg; 5th March


[image loading]Milan vs [image loading]Barcelona
1st Leg; 20th February 2nd Leg; 12th March


[image loading]Real Madrid vs [image loading]Man Utd
1st Leg; 13th February 2nd Leg; 5th March


[image loading]Valencia vs [image loading]PSG
1st Leg; 12th February 2nd Leg; 6th March


[image loading]FC Porto vs [image loading]Malaga
1st Leg; 19th February 2nd Leg; 13th March


Wow! Dream day of football! Man utd vs Real Madrid and Dortmund vs Shakthar, Nice!
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
December 20 2012 17:13 GMT
#547
i think mod should rename the thread to something like "Eurocups Thread 2012-2013" since we started to discuss EL here.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 20 2012 18:26 GMT
#548
Yeah, i will add into the OP some Europa League stuff tomorrow, so i think Champions League & Europa League Thread, would be a nice title.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Nich
Profile Joined April 2010
397 Posts
December 20 2012 19:30 GMT
#549
bayern munich for CL!
spurs for EL!
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 20 2012 21:10 GMT
#550
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 21 2012 00:20 GMT
#551
On December 21 2012 02:13 BeaTeR wrote:
i think mod should rename the thread to something like "Eurocups Thread 2012-2013" since we started to discuss EL here.


Good thing I love football and have the power to do just that
Moderator
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 09:15:29
December 21 2012 08:32 GMT
#552
Thanks Twisted :D

I best get to work!

Done! I think that is the way i will do it, adding in results and scoreres for each game from now on in!
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 10:23:03
December 21 2012 10:22 GMT
#553
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
December 21 2012 10:43 GMT
#554
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


except that CL draws happen once a year and millions of hold'em hands are dealt every day. So quite the coincidence for sure
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 21 2012 11:49 GMT
#555
Nice, gotta love a certain tyre company for sponsering the Europa League :D Thats me with 2 tickets in a box at stamford bridge for the game against Sparta Prague :3

Also, if we get to the final, thats me at the final
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
ERASA
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany7 Posts
December 21 2012 13:08 GMT
#556
On December 21 2012 19:43 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


except that CL draws happen once a year and millions of hold'em hands are dealt every day. So quite the coincidence for sure

You're doing it wrong
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
December 21 2012 15:15 GMT
#557
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


Chances of AA are 4/52 * 3/51 = 1/221 = 0.45%
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
December 21 2012 15:38 GMT
#558
On December 21 2012 19:43 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


except that CL draws happen once a year and millions of hold'em hands are dealt every day. So quite the coincidence for sure


They did quite a lot of test runs (at least that's their official statement), so the probability that there is a test run producing the same pairings isn't exactly one in 5463 (which should be the correct number of possible pairings). The true "coincidence" would be the UEFA guy screenshoting THAT VERY test run, which is the part which seems a bit fishy to me (I personally find it believable that they did some test runs).
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 18:37:12
December 21 2012 18:28 GMT
#559
On December 22 2012 00:15 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


Chances of AA are 4/52 * 3/51 = 1/221 = 0.45%

oops you are right
that's what I wanted to type into google calculator, but instead I typed 1/13*13/51, according to my browser history
shame on me, it fit so well I wanted to believe it

On December 22 2012 00:38 hns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 19:43 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On December 21 2012 19:22 Maenander wrote:
On December 21 2012 06:10 ilj.psa wrote:
It's unbelievable that the test draw was exactly the same as the actual draw.
The chances of that happening I think is less than 1%.

~0.18% according to a german source - that's similar to getting AA in Texas Hold'em (~0.19%)

in other words, it happens


except that CL draws happen once a year and millions of hold'em hands are dealt every day. So quite the coincidence for sure


They did quite a lot of test runs (at least that's their official statement), so the probability that there is a test run producing the same pairings isn't exactly one in 5463 (which should be the correct number of possible pairings). The true "coincidence" would be the UEFA guy screenshoting THAT VERY test run, which is the part which seems a bit fishy to me (I personally find it believable that they did some test runs).

0.183% assumes 10 test runs all taped, I don't know what happened exactly though.

It's easy to get the number of possible draw results (5463) with the help of a small program, but now that I think about it I don't know if the assumption of uniform distribution is valid.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 09:23:16
February 11 2013 09:19 GMT
#560


Champions League RETURNS!!!



Tuesday

Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)

[image loading]Celtic vs Juventus[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading]Celtic 0-0 Juventus[image loading]


[image loading]Valencia vs PSG[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading]Valencia 0-0 PSG[image loading]




Wednesday

Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)

[image loading]Shakhtar Donnesk vs Dortmund[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading]Shakhtar Donnesk 0-0 Dortmund[image loading]


[image loading]Real Madrid vs Man Utd[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading]Real Madrid 0-0 Man Utd[image loading]





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