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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 10 2012 02:51 GMT
#41
3 months = 12 weeks... 36 workouts on starting strength.... 5 lbs per workout.... = 180 lbs added. = theoretically add 80kg to your squat in 3 months on linear progression if you don't fail. Not everyone won't fail though.

40-60 kg is actually fairly realistic for most people.
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emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
October 10 2012 09:06 GMT
#42
Not sure why you assume I had high bodyfat %. I came from a background of jumping sports, highjump + volleyball (even though I'm too short for both really), had 7 sites skinfold measurements taken and was about 8-9% around that time. I wasn't following a strict linear program like SS because I didn't know about such things back in high school. So I just added weight as I felt confident with the technique, but mostly weekly increases.

I am 173cm, and weighed about 60kg at the beginning, up to about 68-69kg with the 120 squat. Similar bf%

Since then I've only gone up to 71kg in 8-9 years, and just barely cracked 150kg squat as a 1RM, and 140x5
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
October 10 2012 10:22 GMT
#43
On October 09 2012 02:34 kaluro wrote:
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On August 29 2012 09:49 emjaytron wrote:
Cannot emphasise this enough. When I was in final year of high school trying to make our top division volleyball team I squatted 3x weekly, going from about 60-70kg to 120kg in 3 months with little prior strength and conditioning training, and learnt to powerclean. Put about 15cm on my vertical jump to get it to about 80cm in 3 months training. Then the next 8 years I barely managed to put another 5cm on it through all kinds of exercises. Getting that squat up towards 1.5-2x bodyweight is everything man. And powercleans are fantastic neural recruitment exercise.


It's nearly impossible to get a 120kg squat within 3 months.
Even if you would have superior nutrition, bulk super dirty and focus completely on strength, it's very unlikely that anyone would be able to manage a 120kg squat within 3 months.
If you're talking about your 1RM, it might be a bit more likely but still very suspicious. 3 months is 12 weeks, that's like a single workout program cycle.
I am well aware that beginners improve extremely rapidly but this just seems to be really suspicious.

p.s. If you have extremely high bodyfat (e.g. >25%) and/or if you would have extremely small legs compared to your upper body, I would be slightly more inclined to believe you, but it's still very doubtful.



When I came to Uni I hadn't done weights at all before, and I weighed 100kg. I don't think a 1.2xBW squat would be unreasonable to achieve in 3 months.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 10 2012 12:58 GMT
#44
On October 09 2012 02:34 kaluro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 09:49 emjaytron wrote:
Cannot emphasise this enough. When I was in final year of high school trying to make our top division volleyball team I squatted 3x weekly, going from about 60-70kg to 120kg in 3 months with little prior strength and conditioning training, and learnt to powerclean. Put about 15cm on my vertical jump to get it to about 80cm in 3 months training. Then the next 8 years I barely managed to put another 5cm on it through all kinds of exercises. Getting that squat up towards 1.5-2x bodyweight is everything man. And powercleans are fantastic neural recruitment exercise.


It's nearly impossible to get a 120kg squat within 3 months.
Even if you would have superior nutrition, bulk super dirty and focus completely on strength, it's very unlikely that anyone would be able to manage a 120kg squat within 3 months.
If you're talking about your 1RM, it might be a bit more likely but still very suspicious. 3 months is 12 weeks, that's like a single workout program cycle.
I am well aware that beginners improve extremely rapidly but this just seems to be really suspicious.

p.s. If you have extremely high bodyfat (e.g. >25%) and/or if you would have extremely small legs compared to your upper body, I would be slightly more inclined to believe you, but it's still very doubtful.

I was at around 78 kg BW and I went from 60 to 100 5 RM in 2.5 months when I first started. You can definitely get a 120 1RM if you train hard for three months.

I was in school and had a lot of free time, so I ate really well and had a lot of rest. The point is, it's definitely possible. With SS, you can go up by roughly 7 kg every week assuming linear progression.
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