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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2013 13:39 GMT
#9241
Haha i think he will if he sits down with Rooney or another big name signing next to him ^_^
But im sure he will grab our attention

An interview is on Chelsea TV with him tonight as well <3 i can't wait until 17:30 GMT (+00:00)!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
June 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#9242
Kind of related:
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 03 2013 14:07 GMT
#9243
"They need a visit from the special dentist, I might hurt you in the beginning but you will thank me in the long run" lmao.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
June 03 2013 14:33 GMT
#9244
/happy dance. Welcome back, Mourinho!!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2013 14:41 GMT
#9245


Part of Mourinho interview he did for Chelsea TV (first one since signing before press conference next week) <3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
June 03 2013 14:46 GMT
#9246
On June 03 2013 22:07 hns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 20:10 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
On June 03 2013 18:42 hns wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:
So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game.
But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course
On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:
On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL

USA vs Germany
2:0

xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ...

You are even more embarassing....


LOLOLOL !!

4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ??

and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head....

We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler)

Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results?


This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ??

Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !!


Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !!

What have you seen ?
L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ...
Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ...
Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ...

If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible ....


First of all: Your punctuation makes it borderline impossible to consider your posts as somewhat serious. You'd do yourself a favor if you tried a little harder to follow extremely basic rules.
Second, I don't think you or anyone else here is in the position to judge what the coaching staff is able to extract from those games and the time the team spent together. Just for what we as the watchers in front of the TVs could see: I think that for instance Max Kruse played very well in both games and might be considered as a good future candidate for an attacking position (.. although Löw not inviting Kießling yet again is the dumbest thing since long), and I found Schürrle to be pretty much the best german player in the first half of the USA game (in contrast to Podolski, who failed to show up).
Every bit of national team experience helps the younger players, and I don't think there are that many other favorable dates where one could set-up a few friendlies without messing badly with the clubs, yet friendlies are necessary to get new players in touch with the team or get guys like Lars Bender to play at their backup positions (RB). If you have a problem with friendlies in general, so be it (I guess so, since you dismissed the previous post as "blabla"..).


I don't want to argue about yesterdays topics but there's only one thing:

there are friendlies and there are unnecessary friendlies ... the whole trip was an entire $$$-Marketing trip for the DFB. Who the hell would organize the DFB Pokalfinale on the 1st June and in parallel to that a trip to the USA ? ... mindblowing time-mismanagement ...


As far as I know, the date was chosen that early (in contrast to, say, next week) in order to allow the players to have a longer holiday/regeneration phase before the world cup next year. But yeah, let's leave it at that, I personally saw no harm in the games.

Concerning Gomez: I also think that a lot of the hate he's getting is unjustified. His goal ratio is absurdly good and he's way better technically than most people make him. Looking back at his time at Stuttgart, he is very well capable of linking up with other players and providing nice passes (he used to play in a counter-attacking team together with Cacau up front). Since van Gaal dogmatized Bayern to 4-2-3-1, he "improved" (or lets say, changed) his physis a lot, so he could stand alone against two defenders. He was by far not as "bulky" as he is now when he was in Stuttgart, and I think it hurts him now that people expect a more agile striker up front. I agree that he has times in certain games where he seems disconnected or even lethargic, which is one of the main differences to Mandzukic I guess. Still, in terms of raw skill and ability, I would not rate him behind Mandzukic. He should go to the Premier League and prove himself there imho (either as the lone mean guy up front or in a counter-attacking role).


Gomez is one of the best strikers in europe. Under the right conditions. He could score 30 goals in every league with no problem.

The thing with him is that the team has to work for him and the tactic and gameplan has to be related to him. He just don´t fits the current way top level teams play.
An example: the two players with the most fouls in this CL season are Lewandowski and Mandzukic. At the highest level there are 3 types of middle strikers:

The "first defenders" like Lewandowski and Madzukic who are skilled enough to make goals by themself but their main objective are leading the pressure against the ball and creating holes for the others.
The "wrong 9" like Messi or Miroslav Klose (obviously not on the same level but the german team played it like that in the past).
or the "wall player" to drop off passes and long balls. Drogba brought that to perfection.

Gomez is just not the kind of player the very top teams want right now.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 15:37:06
June 03 2013 15:23 GMT
#9247
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This could very well be, the best gif ever made.

On June 04 2013 00:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that is awesome

but wtf wheres the original from cause that looks like a fun movie


@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
June 03 2013 15:32 GMT
#9248
that is awesome

but wtf wheres the original from cause that looks like a fun movie
Moderator
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
June 03 2013 15:42 GMT
#9249
Jakub Blaszczykowski signs a contract extension with Dortmund until 2018, without buyout clause.

Mario Götze's muscle injury is worse than expected. He will be out until early August.
But does it djent?
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
June 03 2013 16:00 GMT
#9250
neymar about to be unveiled at barca. wonder what number he'll get. either 7 or 11 im guessing

stream is on youtube on barcelona's page.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 03 2013 16:09 GMT
#9251
Fucking hell that gif nearly killed me. I'm physically hurting right now XD
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 03 2013 16:14 GMT
#9252
I guess Thiago will give up 11 for him.
But the shirt he will be wearing won't have number, it will be plain.
The numbers will be publicized in august.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
June 03 2013 16:17 GMT
#9253
On June 04 2013 01:14 Steveling wrote:
I guess Thiago will give up 11 for him.
But the shirt he will be wearing won't have number, it will be plain.
The numbers will be publicized in august.

oh, i thought he'd be getting his number today.

Kind of sad for thiago. he got the #4 to represent guardiola for a brief stint, then got it taken away from him by fabregas and will now probably have his number 11 taken away by neymar. maybe he will leave? his release clause is only 18 mil. If i were a top club that sounds like an amazing deal to me
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 16:34:33
June 03 2013 16:21 GMT
#9254
I still remember the day I found out Jose was leaving Chelsea, I was coming home from school and because I had to go through a graveyard (there was a fog too) my phone was used to keep my mind off creepy thoughts. Man I remember having a really hollow feeling after reading that breaking news on BBC, didn't really care about the creepy chain noises ect. around me, was legit sad the whole day. Even if we got relegated I still would have loved him
For 5-6 years I have not given a single shit about managers coming or going (except Rafa, fuck that guy)... sigh, one hour to go till the interview.

EDIT: Whatever any manager won during their time with us it has always been the house that Mourinho built
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
June 03 2013 16:35 GMT
#9255
Don't be so hard on Rafa. Given the circumstances (that was one hell of a welcome Chelsea fans gave him), he did a fantastic job! Not to mention the shit tonne of games that we had to play.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6273 Posts
June 03 2013 16:43 GMT
#9256
Why do Chelsea fans love Mourinho so much? I know he won your first league in a loooong time but it seems so excessive.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 03 2013 16:44 GMT
#9257
Neymar is a bigger messi fanboy than me, rofl.
I hope he keeps his football character and doesn't become another passing machine towards messi like pedro-alexis.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2013 16:52 GMT
#9258
On June 04 2013 01:43 RvB wrote:
Why do Chelsea fans love Mourinho so much? I know he won your first league in a loooong time but it seems so excessive.


He made us the threat we are now, the way we can win games now is mainly due to him.
He installed all the players we had with this "swag" of they are the best, they will win games and you will be successful. The trophies were proof of this, and still even after he went the players had this attitude.
You could argue as well Mourinho's way with the players were the reason other managers have failed, AVB Grant Scolari etc, but Ancelotti was the closet we had to a 2nd Mourinho, a guy who made getting the players on side priority number 1.

With what Mourinho gave us in terms of Trophies and success, is the reason we love him so much. He put us on the global map!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
June 03 2013 17:04 GMT
#9259
I would say it was the extremely rich russian guy who put you on the map tbh. Most coaches would do a similar job to what he did, with all the cash to sign great players.

What he did with Porto, that was a bit more impressive.
Revolutionist fan
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 17:16:11
June 03 2013 17:15 GMT
#9260
Disagree. Teams need to know the feeling of winning. That creates a legacy. And Mourinho has certainly done that. RDM won us the Champion's League because he rallied the troops with a sense of patriotism, him being an old boy. That's why we showed the character we had. But that fizzled out soon enough. At least that's my opinion.

Sure, without Abramovich's money, we wouldn't be anywhere. But it takes a good coach to make it a winning team.

Look at Man Utd, or more importantly, look at the kind of mentality Ferguson has instilled in Man Utd. Let's face it, on paper, Man Utd's team is not as strong as Man City's. But he has taught them how to fight hard, and show character. That's what makes SAF a great manager.
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