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On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL
USA vs Germany
2:0
xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible ....
First of all: Your punctuation makes it borderline impossible to consider your posts as somewhat serious. You'd do yourself a favor if you tried a little harder to follow extremely basic rules.
Second, I don't think you or anyone else here is in the position to judge what the coaching staff is able to extract from those games and the time the team spent together. Just for what we as the watchers in front of the TVs could see: I think that for instance Max Kruse played very well in both games and might be considered as a good future candidate for an attacking position (.. although Löw not inviting Kießling yet again is the dumbest thing since long), and I found Schürrle to be pretty much the best german player in the first half of the USA game (in contrast to Podolski, who failed to show up).
Every bit of national team experience helps the younger players, and I don't think there are that many other favorable dates where one could set-up a few friendlies without messing badly with the clubs, yet friendlies are necessary to get new players in touch with the team or get guys like Lars Bender to play at their backup positions (RB). If you have a problem with friendlies in general, so be it (I guess so, since you dismissed the previous post as "blabla"..).
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On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /
Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source.
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On June 03 2013 19:37 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source.
This also means that Lewandowski is coming to Munich. Also Gomez really shouldn't move to Serie A ... playing in front of 10.000 is not fun and living in Napoli can be difficult, especially when his Girlfriends is getting robbed ...
Why doesn't Real buy Gomez (in case he really wants to leave Munich). They need more clinical strikers and Higuain is on the verge to Arsenal. Or what about Chelsea ? wouln't Gomez be the next Drogba ?
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On June 03 2013 18:42 hns wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL
USA vs Germany
2:0
xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible .... First of all: Your punctuation makes it borderline impossible to consider your posts as somewhat serious. You'd do yourself a favor if you tried a little harder to follow extremely basic rules. Second, I don't think you or anyone else here is in the position to judge what the coaching staff is able to extract from those games and the time the team spent together. Just for what we as the watchers in front of the TVs could see: I think that for instance Max Kruse played very well in both games and might be considered as a good future candidate for an attacking position (.. although Löw not inviting Kießling yet again is the dumbest thing since long), and I found Schürrle to be pretty much the best german player in the first half of the USA game (in contrast to Podolski, who failed to show up). Every bit of national team experience helps the younger players, and I don't think there are that many other favorable dates where one could set-up a few friendlies without messing badly with the clubs, yet friendlies are necessary to get new players in touch with the team or get guys like Lars Bender to play at their backup positions (RB). If you have a problem with friendlies in general, so be it (I guess so, since you dismissed the previous post as "blabla"..).
I don't want to argue about yesterdays topics but there's only one thing:
there are friendlies and there are unnecessary friendlies ... the whole trip was an entire $$$-Marketing trip for the DFB. Who the hell would organize the DFB Pokalfinale on the 1st June and in parallel to that a trip to the USA ? ... mindblowing time-mismanagement ...
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On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL
USA vs Germany
2:0
xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible .... I wonder if you are really that stupid. What do you want Löw to do if such a match is planned way before anyone could guess that two german teams are in the CL final? It's nearly impossible to cancel such a match.
And Draxler wasn't motivated at all. I wonder wether you even watched the game or you are a Schalke fan.
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On June 03 2013 20:04 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 19:37 Ferrose wrote:On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source. This also means that Lewandowski is coming to Munich. Also Gomez really shouldn't move to Serie A ... playing in front of 10.000 is not fun and living in Napoli can be difficult, especially when his Girlfriends is getting robbed ... Why doesn't Real buy Gomez (in case he really wants to leave Munich). They need more clinical strikers and Higuain is on the verge to Arsenal. Or what about Chelsea ? wouln't Gomez be the next Drogba ?
How could Gomez ever become the next Drogba? They have nothing in common apart from scoring goals :/
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On June 03 2013 20:45 roym899 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL
USA vs Germany
2:0
xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible .... I wonder if you are really that stupid. What do you want Löw to do if such a match is planned way before anyone could guess that two german teams are in the CL final? It's nearly impossible to cancel such a match. And Draxler wasn't motivated at all. I wonder wether you even watched the game or you are a Schalke fan.
Don't throw with insults, thx. Then why did they plan the DFB Finale on the 1st. June ? when theres a friendly already planned on the next day ? ... I guess they didn't anticipated that many National starters wouldn't play there ... lol.
I wonder wether you even watched the game or you are a Schalke fan. wrong color...
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On June 03 2013 20:48 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 20:04 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 19:37 Ferrose wrote:On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source. This also means that Lewandowski is coming to Munich. Also Gomez really shouldn't move to Serie A ... playing in front of 10.000 is not fun and living in Napoli can be difficult, especially when his Girlfriends is getting robbed ... Why doesn't Real buy Gomez (in case he really wants to leave Munich). They need more clinical strikers and Higuain is on the verge to Arsenal. Or what about Chelsea ? wouln't Gomez be the next Drogba ? How could Gomez ever become the next Drogba? They have nothing in common apart from scoring goals :/
For me his physique does resemble Drogba, and he would fit into the Premier League imo. Don't know but Gomez has a good header, can score with the left&right ... as Drogba :D just my opinion....
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Blegh, I really hope Son Heung-min doesn't join Wolfsburg, feels like a step laterally from Hamburg.
Whatever happened to the talk of him going to Dortmund?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 03 2013 21:08 GTR wrote:
Blegh, I really hope Son Heung-min doesn't join Wolfsburg, feels like a step laterally from Hamburg.
Whatever happened to the talk of him going to Dortmund?
Well Wolfsburg are the only ones to actually make a bid for him (at this moment) so thats why they are being passed around the press. But Tottenham Dortmund and another club are also linked with him. If all teams make the 8.5million Euro bid then we will see him go to Dortmund surely.
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On June 03 2013 21:08 GTR wrote:
Blegh, I really hope Son Heung-min doesn't join Wolfsburg, feels like a step laterally from Hamburg.
Whatever happened to the talk of him going to Dortmund?
It would be nice if he joins Dortmund. Klopp has a hand for working with talents (and bring them to world class level).
If he stays in Hamburg he will not improve, as the team is not improving since years. Wolfsburg would be an career accident ...
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On June 03 2013 20:58 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 20:48 Ysellian wrote:On June 03 2013 20:04 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 19:37 Ferrose wrote:On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source. This also means that Lewandowski is coming to Munich. Also Gomez really shouldn't move to Serie A ... playing in front of 10.000 is not fun and living in Napoli can be difficult, especially when his Girlfriends is getting robbed ... Why doesn't Real buy Gomez (in case he really wants to leave Munich). They need more clinical strikers and Higuain is on the verge to Arsenal. Or what about Chelsea ? wouln't Gomez be the next Drogba ? How could Gomez ever become the next Drogba? They have nothing in common apart from scoring goals :/ For me his physique does resemble Drogba, and he would fit into the Premier League imo. Don't know but Gomez has a good header, can score with the left&right ... as Drogba :D just my opinion....
Mario Gomez plays as a poacher and not a target man. Gomez is definitely strong tho, but his link-up play is poor and he doesn't hold up the ball well. He doesn't work hard either. If Gomez doesn't score goals he's useless to a team whereas Drogba has a lot more to offer, Mandzukic is preferred ahead of Gomez for good reason.
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On June 03 2013 21:32 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 20:58 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 20:48 Ysellian wrote:On June 03 2013 20:04 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 19:37 Ferrose wrote:On June 03 2013 18:07 Pandemona wrote:
Transfer News
German daily BILD claims Wolfsburg are planning an €8.5m bid for Hamburg ace Heung-Min Son
Reports in Germany claim new Napoli boss Rafa Benitez is closing in on the signing of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
Sevilla winger Jesus Navas has revealed that he would be interested in a move to Manchester City this summer.
The Daily Mirror claims Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas is eyeing a deal for Benfica's Spanish Under-21 striker Rodrigo
Liverpool are planning a swoop for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke should Luis Suarez leave Anfield this summer, according to the Daily Mail
The Daily Telegraph claims incoming Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is lining up a move for Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko
Ukraine captain Anatoliy Tymoshchuk is to rejoin Zenit St Petersburg this summer after a four-year spell with Bayern Munich
Sky Sports Italia claim Roma's Maarten Stekelenburg will put pen to paper with Fulham on Tuesday
Apparently a number of Prem clubs, including Arsenal, Newcastle, and Stoke, are going for Celtic's Kenyan international Victor Wanyama, according to the Daily Mail.
Also, if Napoli sign Mario Gomez, does that mean Cavani would be leaving? : /Dani Carvajal is also officially returning to Real Madrid. Official source. This also means that Lewandowski is coming to Munich. Also Gomez really shouldn't move to Serie A ... playing in front of 10.000 is not fun and living in Napoli can be difficult, especially when his Girlfriends is getting robbed ... Why doesn't Real buy Gomez (in case he really wants to leave Munich). They need more clinical strikers and Higuain is on the verge to Arsenal. Or what about Chelsea ? wouln't Gomez be the next Drogba ? How could Gomez ever become the next Drogba? They have nothing in common apart from scoring goals :/ For me his physique does resemble Drogba, and he would fit into the Premier League imo. Don't know but Gomez has a good header, can score with the left&right ... as Drogba :D just my opinion.... Mario Gomez plays as a poacher and not a target man. Gomez is definitely strong tho, but his link-up play is poor and he doesn't hold up the ball well. He doesn't work hard either. If Gomez doesn't score goals he's useless to a team whereas Drogba has a lot more to offer, Mandzukic is preferred ahead of Gomez for good reason.
Yeah that's totally true. Gomez is so annoying to watch, but he really scores alot of goals (he has way better goal/minutes ratio than Mandzukic this season). Imo, the hate on him is undeserved, but for my part I think he makes a team more one-dimensional ... as he needs good sitters to provide him with balls. That is why last season all of Bayern's midfield had way less goals than this year...
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On June 03 2013 05:59 Steveling wrote:
So he's the opposite of Heynkes, lol.
About Neymar, I think people are expecting too much of him. He won't be another messi and he won't even be another iniesta.
If he manages to take some pressure off of messi that will be a huge success for me.
amen brother.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Jose Mourinho Confirmed as Chelsea Manager on a 4 Year DealChelsea StatementPress Conference scheduled for June 10th. Im sure it will be entertaining :D
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On June 03 2013 20:10 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 18:42 hns wrote:On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
LOL
USA vs Germany
2:0
xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible .... First of all: Your punctuation makes it borderline impossible to consider your posts as somewhat serious. You'd do yourself a favor if you tried a little harder to follow extremely basic rules. Second, I don't think you or anyone else here is in the position to judge what the coaching staff is able to extract from those games and the time the team spent together. Just for what we as the watchers in front of the TVs could see: I think that for instance Max Kruse played very well in both games and might be considered as a good future candidate for an attacking position (.. although Löw not inviting Kießling yet again is the dumbest thing since long), and I found Schürrle to be pretty much the best german player in the first half of the USA game (in contrast to Podolski, who failed to show up). Every bit of national team experience helps the younger players, and I don't think there are that many other favorable dates where one could set-up a few friendlies without messing badly with the clubs, yet friendlies are necessary to get new players in touch with the team or get guys like Lars Bender to play at their backup positions (RB). If you have a problem with friendlies in general, so be it (I guess so, since you dismissed the previous post as "blabla"..). I don't want to argue about yesterdays topics but there's only one thing: there are friendlies and there are unnecessary friendlies ... the whole trip was an entire $$$-Marketing trip for the DFB. Who the hell would organize the DFB Pokalfinale on the 1st June and in parallel to that a trip to the USA ? ... mindblowing time-mismanagement ...
As far as I know, the date was chosen that early (in contrast to, say, next week) in order to allow the players to have a longer holiday/regeneration phase before the world cup next year. But yeah, let's leave it at that, I personally saw no harm in the games.
Concerning Gomez: I also think that a lot of the hate he's getting is unjustified. His goal ratio is absurdly good and he's way better technically than most people make him. Looking back at his time at Stuttgart, he is very well capable of linking up with other players and providing nice passes (he used to play in a counter-attacking team together with Cacau up front). Since van Gaal dogmatized Bayern to 4-2-3-1, he "improved" (or lets say, changed) his physis a lot, so he could stand alone against two defenders. He was by far not as "bulky" as he is now when he was in Stuttgart, and I think it hurts him now that people expect a more agile striker up front. I agree that he has times in certain games where he seems disconnected or even lethargic, which is one of the main differences to Mandzukic I guess. Still, in terms of raw skill and ability, I would not rate him behind Mandzukic. He should go to the Premier League and prove himself there imho (either as the lone mean guy up front or in a counter-attacking role).
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On June 03 2013 20:10 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 18:42 hns wrote:On June 03 2013 06:27 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 05:59 Mafe wrote:So yeah, we lost today, congratulations to the US-team. Was an entertaining game. But imho both teams should not overvalue this match. The majority of our players of today won't make the brazil squad, I think at some point the commentator said there were at least 17 players missing (from Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Stuttgart...?) that would surely make it into the squad under normal circumstances. It was a lot of developing players getting chances, so I can live with the offensive potential we showed, Defense not so much of course On June 03 2013 05:15 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:On June 03 2013 04:38 roym899 wrote:On June 03 2013 04:01 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:
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xD Germany is getting owned Hahahahaha !! Stupid friendlies ! Good Job DFB - your are embarassing ... You are even more embarassing.... LOLOLOL !! 4 : 1 ... don't tell me DFB deserves praise for such a stupid trip to the USA ?? and Ter Stegen ... lol whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets 2~4 goals in the net ! Totally overrated this guy ... may be the Barca rumor got into his head.... We should take Neuer, Weidenfeller and Adler to the World Cup, not these overrated goal keepers who get 2~4 goals every game ... (Ter Stegen and Zieler) Yes I'm telling you this trip worked out perfectly well, as many new players were tested and nobody from the big teams is complaining about it. If you feel this is "embarassing", then you have not really understood the purpose of friendly test matches. Do you even realize nearly every big club is doing such tours at least once a season and no one cares about the results? This is just blabla !! What's the purpose of testing a WHOLE new team, which is going to be abandoned anyway !! Wouldn't it be more useful to test a few new players one at a time ?? Can you get any valuable/dependable information when you throw over everything everytime you test ??? NO !! Also, this is the end of a season, so everyone was tired, add that to the mix of mid-table players which have never been played together, the result is a poor team where no-one cares to play !! What have you seen ? L.Bender / S.Bender / Schürrle even didn't cared ... Draxler motivated but couldn't find anyone to play with ... Podolski / Mertesacker terrible ... If you put a player into a not working team, do you do him a favor to let him showcase his skills ??? no ! You show that they are all terrible .... First of all: Your punctuation makes it borderline impossible to consider your posts as somewhat serious. You'd do yourself a favor if you tried a little harder to follow extremely basic rules. Second, I don't think you or anyone else here is in the position to judge what the coaching staff is able to extract from those games and the time the team spent together. Just for what we as the watchers in front of the TVs could see: I think that for instance Max Kruse played very well in both games and might be considered as a good future candidate for an attacking position (.. although Löw not inviting Kießling yet again is the dumbest thing since long), and I found Schürrle to be pretty much the best german player in the first half of the USA game (in contrast to Podolski, who failed to show up). Every bit of national team experience helps the younger players, and I don't think there are that many other favorable dates where one could set-up a few friendlies without messing badly with the clubs, yet friendlies are necessary to get new players in touch with the team or get guys like Lars Bender to play at their backup positions (RB). If you have a problem with friendlies in general, so be it (I guess so, since you dismissed the previous post as "blabla"..). I don't want to argue about yesterdays topics but there's only one thing: there are friendlies and there are unnecessary friendlies ... the whole trip was an entire $$$-Marketing trip for the DFB. Who the hell would organize the DFB Pokalfinale on the 1st June and in parallel to that a trip to the USA ? ... mindblowing time-mismanagement ...
A trip like that is not only about the games, but also about players presenting themselves in training and showing that they can be integrated into the team. It's one more year until the world cup, and one or two of these players might become alternatives during the next season.
On June 03 2013 18:38 Tazza wrote:
Really hope that son heung min doesn't go to Wolfsburg. Don't like how Wolfsburg treated koo ja cheol when he was there. I'd rather son go to Dortmund or just stay at hamburg. And definitely not to a premier league club like Tottenham as speculated.
At least Wolfsburg is no longer managed by Magath, so it wouldn't be that bad. Plus, players earn a lot of money at Wolfsburg.
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On June 03 2013 22:06 Pandemona wrote:
The Prodigal Son returns. The title race this season will be really interesting.
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On June 03 2013 22:06 Pandemona wrote:Jose Mourinho Confirmed as Chelsea Manager on a 4 Year DealChelsea StatementPress Conference scheduled for June 10th. Im sure it will be entertaining :D
Fuck yeah!
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On June 03 2013 22:06 Pandemona wrote:
Press Conference scheduled for June 10th. Im sure it will be entertaining :D
There is no way he can top that press conference when he first came to Chelsea 6 years ago, no way...
EDIT: "Please don't call me arrogant, but I'm European champion and I think I'm a special one."
Welcome home Jose, welcome home 
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