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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:20:01
April 22 2013 12:11 GMT
#7121
On April 22 2013 21:04 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 06:42 warding wrote:
EDIT: Video was removed from youtube. Replacing it with gif:
[image loading]
Nico Gaitan with the assist.


This needs more love


Good technique no question, but i think Luiz's goal on weds was much better xD

By the way, what happened to the rumours Gaitan was going to Man Utd? Or have they died down now?
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 22 2013 12:12 GMT
#7122
That is an INCREDIBLE goal!!!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 22 2013 12:28 GMT
#7123
On April 22 2013 21:11 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 21:04 bObaZ wrote:
On April 22 2013 06:42 warding wrote:
EDIT: Video was removed from youtube. Replacing it with gif:
[image loading]
Nico Gaitan with the assist.


This needs more love


Good technique no question, but i think Luiz's goal on weds was much better xD

By the way, what happened to the rumours Gaiten (can't spell it!) was going to Man Utd? Or have they died down now?


Have to disagree man , everything in that Benfica goal was pure perfection. The movement, passing and finish absolutely brilliant.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 12:32 GMT
#7124
Does that mean you think



is a better goal than Luiz's too :S
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:15:55
April 22 2013 13:08 GMT
#7125
I Love David Luiz as much as any other Chelsea or Benfica Fan, and his goal this week was superb. But the Lima goal, with the Gaitan assist, was an hymn to football. Perfect everything... Perfect movement, perfect passes and a really good finnish with a windmill shot (i don't know how do you call this in English).

And yes, I do prefer that drogba goal to the David Luiz one.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:12:42
April 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#7126
Yes haha Not saying Luiz's goal isn't great , just enjoy seeing a combination goal more.

edit: bObaz nailed it.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 13:19 GMT
#7127
Bobaz you didn't answer the Gaitan question xD
Is United still after him? Will he be leaving in this summer window or has interest cooled on him?
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:33:47
April 22 2013 13:25 GMT
#7128
Ah sorry. I think that the interest on Gaitan cooled down. He's a very inconsistent player... He reminds me (a lot) of Nasri. He's capable of beautiful things and has superb technique, but can't show that in every game...

The current rumor is that United will move on Garay and Matic, and that worries me.... Sadly Garay has a 20M release clause so I guess that's a done deal... But Matic has a 45M clause so i'm hoping he stays at least another year.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 13:34 GMT
#7129
Lol Matic xD the ex Chelsea youth team player. Is he really playing well now? I haven't see much of him, i will try and watch the highlights of the Benfica vs Fenebache games after Chelsea's semi final to get a glimpse of him.

Ahh yeah Garay looks a good player. Shame about Gaitan he looked ok vs Chelsea in the champions league last season.
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
April 22 2013 13:44 GMT
#7130
In my opinion, Matic is the strongest midfielder I've seen in Benfica since Rui Costa. And that's saying a lot.. And as we are on the topic of good goals, here you have a Matic goal

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 14:04 GMT
#7131
Wow what the fuck, i didn't know he could do that haha! He didn't even look that good to me as a kid, and i watch alot of Chelsea youth stuff. Impressive, he clearly has become a good player.
If he gets as good as Rui Costa as you just said then, wow. Costa days where when i really enjoyed watching Portuguese national team, he was one of the rocks of the international team. If he becomes as good as that...well xD
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
April 22 2013 14:21 GMT
#7132
I don't know if he'll get to that level, but he is impressive. In my opinion, he is currently the most important player in Benfica.
We'll see about the future.

Btw, United is also linked with James Rodriguez from Porto. So if they are to sign a winger that plays in the portuguese league, it will probably be James.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 14:37:45
April 22 2013 14:31 GMT
#7133
Rui Costa and Matic have different roles tho, I'm not sure they're comparable. Matic has been the surprise of the season.

Benfica probably needs to sell players to stay afloat, so this summer it'll be Garay + one out of Gaitan, Matic, Rodrigo or Salvio. Personally I'd prefer selling Gaitan.

EDIT: Matic came in the David Luiz deal (Luiz to Chelsea, Matic + €25M to Benfica). If you'd ask me to choose who I'd prefer in Benfica right now between Luiz or Matic, I'd say Matic.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 14:55 GMT
#7134
Interesting, Benfica that cash strapped? How might i ask? You sell players for big $$. Didn't Chelsea buy Ramires and Luiz in the same year for like 50million Euros total? Then DiMaria went to Real that season as well?

Porto cast strapped too? Or just continuing their buy talent cheap, sell for profit module?
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
April 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#7135
Both Benfica and Porto have huge financial troubles... Both Clubs have consolidated debts that ascend to the 200-300M€.

The problem is that the Portuguese League is not very attractive commercially.. And we are, indeed, a poor country... Altough both clubs have annual budgets in the order of 60 to 80M € (something similar to wigan or some low league English teams), the revenue is pretty small...

For instance, Benfica just played Leverkusen, Bordeaux and Newcastle in the Europa League. All of this 3 teams have bigger annual budgets than Benfica... With leverkusen and newcastle having more than double of the Benfica budget...

The problem is that in Portugal there isn't a lot of money... Benfica received in the last 10 seasons 8M€/year for television revenue... And we all know that this should be a big part of a club's revenue...

A team that gets relegated in the spannish league gets something between 15 to 25M of television.

Blackburn Rovers and Wolves that were relegated last year got something like 45M€. Benfica got 8M... I think that says everything about the financial health of portuguese clubs.

For the next year, Benfica didn't sell their rights and will self transmit their home games on the Club Channel, that will become Pay TV. We also acquired the rights for the English Premier League, so let's see how that goes

Sorry for my English
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 22 2013 15:38 GMT
#7136
But champions league money is like 30-40million? Every club is given the same in that right i thought?

But oh right, they have big debts xD Pretty bad revenue causes it which i guess is understandable, but i know in turns of Porto, not only player sales earning them big $$, but AVB and Mourinho earnt the club like 50million Euros didn't it? So im quite surprised at that. But yeah i guess if the country is poor economically it doesn't have the huge $$ to invest into the sporting TV rights >.<
Unlucky for the clubs, because as you say, the teams Benfica have beaten this year in the Europa shows they are a successful and good team. They are (imo) favorites for the Fenebache game aswell, so thats another final for a Portuguese team in the Europa League.

Hopefully it improves, you have like the best scouts in world football with the talent Benfica and Porto pick up each year xD
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anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
April 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#7137
You get 8,6 million euros for playing in group stages, and you of course get money from TV revenue, but that depends on how many matches you play and from which country you're from, but if you don't qualify from group stages I doubt you get much more than 15 mil altogether from prizes and TV revenue. Obviously it gets higher as you go further into the tournament.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 16:00:58
April 22 2013 16:00 GMT
#7138
CL money is a combination of revenue sharing and prize money, the former is based on the market pool of the teams, for example big clubs will always get way more of the revenue split than smaller clubs. United will probably make 40-50 million even though they went out in first knockout round but other clubs will probably get half that for going as far
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#7139
Ajax got around 15M/year from the CL these past 3 years and they got all the tv revenue. If another Dutch team qualifies it's probably 3M less. They didn't pass group stages but did win some matches/drew some so they got some money from that as well. It's nowhere near 30-40M for those kind of clubs.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 22 2013 17:41 GMT
#7140
only in romania...

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