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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#3921
God. FUcking. Damn it.

Congrats to QPR though, to be honest I like them, I like the quality players they have and want to see them in the prem. Also like Harry. So meh, of all the people we could have lost to I prefer it's against them.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
January 02 2013 22:32 GMT
#3922
lol wtf

one day he's a fucking hero (Benitez when he wins like 8-0 and shit) then you lose a game and you go all apeshit on him

what kind of attitude is that (Pandemona)
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
January 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#3923
Just watched highlights of the Liverpool game. Holy shit that third goal. That pass is beautiful by Gerrard.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 03 2013 01:14 GMT
#3924
On January 03 2013 07:32 Twisted wrote:
lol wtf

one day he's a fucking hero (Benitez when he wins like 8-0 and shit) then you lose a game and you go all apeshit on him

what kind of attitude is that (Pandemona)


I think they are overreacting a bit, but to be fair, this is a team that has (had?) serious title hopes (even Benitez was talking about Chelsea making a run for it), and then they lay an egg at home to the last place team in the premier league.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
January 03 2013 04:09 GMT
#3925
Does Park Ji-sung even play regularly for QPR any more? So much for wanting a new challenge after not getting frequent starts at Old Trafford =/
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 03 2013 04:26 GMT
#3926
was out with an injury afaik
Hey! Listen!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 08:46:14
January 03 2013 08:45 GMT
#3927
On January 03 2013 07:32 Twisted wrote:
lol wtf

one day he's a fucking hero (Benitez when he wins like 8-0 and shit) then you lose a game and you go all apeshit on him

what kind of attitude is that (Pandemona)


But the team he put out...he rests all the good players we have, our creative flair for no reason. It is not like we had an important game several days later. We have a FA cup game against Southampton at the weekend and he decides to rest Mata/Hazard/Cole, when we are pretty much in a title race (were) if we would pick up the 3 points. Now we lose at home, to our fucking rivals! Because we couldn't "unlock" the door due to our best creative players sat on the bench until the 70th minute!

No one ever said he was a hero >.< just that he sorted out tactical problems we had, the game against proved that on our day we can still play and beat the best anywhere. Last night showed us that Benitez way under estimated QPR, who were scrapping for their lives at the bottom of the league, playing 11 men in their own half for 95% of the game, and not even a striker on the pitch.

Over reaction? I think not, it just sums up our season, we are turning into an inconssistant Liverpool under Rafa, when we look to have turned the corner and look to be playing well, we have a huge hiccup. Go on that nice run of wins after losing away to west ham, to lose the world club cup final. Go on a nice run after that, to lose to QPR at home. It's silly!

Atleast now Chelsea have signed a striker, so Mr Torres can sit on the bench for a few dozen games and we can actually score goals now!


On January 03 2013 13:09 GTR wrote:
Does Park Ji-sung even play regularly for QPR any more? So much for wanting a new challenge after not getting frequent starts at Old Trafford =/


As far as i know, he is one of the players Harry talks about, as being on a big wage, doing absolutely nothing for the club.
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clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
January 03 2013 09:15 GMT
#3928
meanwhile,lucas moura is now playing for psg.
pastore moura lavezzi menez ibrahimovic upfront.
YES PLEASE.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
January 03 2013 09:47 GMT
#3929
On January 03 2013 13:09 GTR wrote:
Does Park Ji-sung even play regularly for QPR any more? So much for wanting a new challenge after not getting frequent starts at Old Trafford =/

I thought he was injured ? He'll probably start playing more when he's fully recovered.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 03 2013 09:59 GMT
#3930
wooo. everton fan chiming in. baines with a rocket today.

gif of baines 1-1 goal.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#3931
Why was there only a 3 man wall, wtf.

Good strike though, hard and low, but still wtf wall just dissapeared and was only a 3 man wall :S
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 15:17:44
January 03 2013 15:16 GMT
#3932
On January 03 2013 17:45 Pandemona wrote:

Over reaction? I think not, it just sums up our season, we are turning into an inconssistant Liverpool under Rafa, when we look to have turned the corner and look to be playing well, we have a huge hiccup. Go on that nice run of wins after losing away to west ham, to lose the world club cup final. Go on a nice run after that, to lose to QPR at home. It's silly!

Atleast now Chelsea have signed a striker, so Mr Torres can sit on the bench for a few dozen games and we can actually score goals now!



Inconsistency is logical when you are building a new team. These players haven't played long together have they? They have potential but when you constantly sub around your manager and you don't really have a certain way of playing as club culture (like at Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal, Man U for example) from the youth academy and up, results are never gonna be what you expect them to be.

Oh and the games I've seen from Chelsea, Torres played very well most games. Just unlucky in front of goal but he's a great asset in the whole attacking game of Chelsea. Combines well, sets up other players and does pose a threat in front of goal.

Just seems like you have too high expectations for a club that's run by a retard with a lot of money.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 03 2013 15:37 GMT
#3933
For most players and teams, Torres' stats don't seem that bad. But for 50 million pounds, he's terrible.

Though that probably says more about the transfer fee than it does about the player.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 03 2013 15:40 GMT
#3934
Yeah personally I am optimistic about Chelsea's future with our great young players but inconsistency always comes with youth and of course everyone has a few unlucky games. ANd yeah, Torres is not the sort of player who can put the team on his back, he is a quality player but he doesn't have that special thing (well, anymore).
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
January 03 2013 15:45 GMT
#3935
lol

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4724558/Roberto-Mancini-blows-his-top-at-Mario-Balotelli.html
Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
January 03 2013 15:51 GMT
#3936
On January 03 2013 06:52 Pandemona wrote:
Its his nickname....could of called him alot worst >.<

Classic xenophobia.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 03 2013 16:01 GMT
#3937
On January 04 2013 00:16 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 17:45 Pandemona wrote:

Over reaction? I think not, it just sums up our season, we are turning into an inconssistant Liverpool under Rafa, when we look to have turned the corner and look to be playing well, we have a huge hiccup. Go on that nice run of wins after losing away to west ham, to lose the world club cup final. Go on a nice run after that, to lose to QPR at home. It's silly!

Atleast now Chelsea have signed a striker, so Mr Torres can sit on the bench for a few dozen games and we can actually score goals now!



Inconsistency is logical when you are building a new team. These players haven't played long together have they? They have potential but when you constantly sub around your manager and you don't really have a certain way of playing as club culture (like at Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal, Man U for example) from the youth academy and up, results are never gonna be what you expect them to be.

Oh and the games I've seen from Chelsea, Torres played very well most games. Just unlucky in front of goal but he's a great asset in the whole attacking game of Chelsea. Combines well, sets up other players and does pose a threat in front of goal.

Just seems like you have too high expectations for a club that's run by a retard with a lot of money.


New team? The only new players we have are Oscar/Hazard/Moses/Marin - they joined the club this summer, Mata, has been here for a season in his 2nd season, he has proved how good he is. Torres has been here 2 seasons and has proved to be the worst peice of buisness in football history (whether or not you rate him on how he plays generally or if you rate him for goals).

We have great attacking midfielders, but we lack a striker to finish off the chances you have. If your midfield plays bad, you need you striker to do something special to win you the game, like RVP did for Arsenal, or does for Man Utd, like Messi for Barcelona etcetcetc. We have not had that since Drogba, we replaced him with Torres and that has not proved any help.

You could probably put many decent strikers in Chelsea's team and with the front 3 (whoever is chosen) behind them, they would have ample of chances to score goals, and would take them. Take the Demba Ba signing, he will love playing in front of our attacking/creative midfield and he will get so much service, and im sure he will keep Torres on the bench for a long while (until the summer when he will leave and Falcao comes in).

Torres looked to "come back into some form" over the last few months, but the goals he has scored and the oppositions he scored against has not done anything to change his critic's minds. When Chelsea need him the most (unlike Drogba) he goes into hiding it seems, yesterday he was fucking shite!! He had a half volley 4 yards out and he hit it straight at Cesar. A 50million striker should not be hitting a half volley, 4 yards out straight at the keeper. Thats what frustrates any Chelsea fan.

Benitez is a great manager tactically, but yesterdays "timing" on resting players was probably his worst peice of management in a long time. He must of clearly mistaken what kind of game Chelsea vs QPR is (it's our next door neighbours ffs!) and will feel the wrath of the Chelsea fans because of it. If Mata comes on at 50/60th minute, Chelsea could of still went on to win that, instead if takes to 73-76 minute to bring him on! Hazard is sat on the bench after being rested in the Norwich game (game before Everton) The only person he did not rest was Lamps, which he could of done as you could argue that 2 games in less than a week might be a bit to much for Lamps.

Bizzard selection policy when you have an FA cup game coming on the weekend and then a semi final first leg in the carling cup the following week (weds) to rest players in the league game made no sense!

Consistancy has no place in the discussion if your best players aren't playing? No one says Man Utd are inconsistant when they lose Champions League games at home to Galatasaray...it's because they had the reserves out!

/rant off

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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 03 2013 16:21 GMT
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 18:21:03
January 03 2013 18:18 GMT
#3939
On January 04 2013 01:01 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 00:16 Twisted wrote:
On January 03 2013 17:45 Pandemona wrote:

Over reaction? I think not, it just sums up our season, we are turning into an inconssistant Liverpool under Rafa, when we look to have turned the corner and look to be playing well, we have a huge hiccup. Go on that nice run of wins after losing away to west ham, to lose the world club cup final. Go on a nice run after that, to lose to QPR at home. It's silly!

Atleast now Chelsea have signed a striker, so Mr Torres can sit on the bench for a few dozen games and we can actually score goals now!



Inconsistency is logical when you are building a new team. These players haven't played long together have they? They have potential but when you constantly sub around your manager and you don't really have a certain way of playing as club culture (like at Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal, Man U for example) from the youth academy and up, results are never gonna be what you expect them to be.

Oh and the games I've seen from Chelsea, Torres played very well most games. Just unlucky in front of goal but he's a great asset in the whole attacking game of Chelsea. Combines well, sets up other players and does pose a threat in front of goal.

Just seems like you have too high expectations for a club that's run by a retard with a lot of money.


New team? The only new players we have are Oscar/Hazard/Moses/Marin - they joined the club this summer, Mata, has been here for a season in his 2nd season, he has proved how good he is. Torres has been here 2 seasons and has proved to be the worst peice of buisness in football history (whether or not you rate him on how he plays generally or if you rate him for goals).

We have great attacking midfielders, but we lack a striker to finish off the chances you have. If your midfield plays bad, you need you striker to do something special to win you the game, like RVP did for Arsenal, or does for Man Utd, like Messi for Barcelona etcetcetc. We have not had that since Drogba, we replaced him with Torres and that has not proved any help.

You could probably put many decent strikers in Chelsea's team and with the front 3 (whoever is chosen) behind them, they would have ample of chances to score goals, and would take them. Take the Demba Ba signing, he will love playing in front of our attacking/creative midfield and he will get so much service, and im sure he will keep Torres on the bench for a long while (until the summer when he will leave and Falcao comes in).

Torres looked to "come back into some form" over the last few months, but the goals he has scored and the oppositions he scored against has not done anything to change his critic's minds. When Chelsea need him the most (unlike Drogba) he goes into hiding it seems, yesterday he was fucking shite!! He had a half volley 4 yards out and he hit it straight at Cesar. A 50million striker should not be hitting a half volley, 4 yards out straight at the keeper. Thats what frustrates any Chelsea fan.

Benitez is a great manager tactically, but yesterdays "timing" on resting players was probably his worst peice of management in a long time. He must of clearly mistaken what kind of game Chelsea vs QPR is (it's our next door neighbours ffs!) and will feel the wrath of the Chelsea fans because of it. If Mata comes on at 50/60th minute, Chelsea could of still went on to win that, instead if takes to 73-76 minute to bring him on! Hazard is sat on the bench after being rested in the Norwich game (game before Everton) The only person he did not rest was Lamps, which he could of done as you could argue that 2 games in less than a week might be a bit to much for Lamps.

Bizzard selection policy when you have an FA cup game coming on the weekend and then a semi final first leg in the carling cup the following week (weds) to rest players in the league game made no sense!

Consistancy has no place in the discussion if your best players aren't playing? No one says Man Utd are inconsistant when they lose Champions League games at home to Galatasaray...it's because they had the reserves out!

/rant off



I have to agree with him to some degree. While its understandable and I certainly expected them to have some trouble once the freshness of the signings wore off, it doesnt help that your only (literally Only) striker is incosistent.

That having been said Benitez is atleast a manager. RDM was not a manager to me, he has more the qualities of a motivational speaker and then basically said "go win" and they did it for a while till teams figured them out to some degree
and then even more. Thats where being able to execute game plans comes in as a team.

1) It will take time to figure those things out because the core of this team upfront is used to having their way playing freestyle. They will need to learn to be tactically more astute and with some experience theyll start winning those games.

2) They really do need that striker that can win you games by himself sometimes. Every top team needs that.


Torres has been much better this season but nowhere near what a team challenging for honors needs.

As for the QPR game. I think it was just a case of underestimating and then not responding. Granted I dont blame him for resting his players because Hazard is used to his 2 weeks off and that makes a huge psychological and physical different o players when they move to England.

Honestly I never really expected anyone to be in the mix cept City and United this season. EPL always flatters to deceive but we always can tell its United +1 at the table.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#3940
I agree Rebs. I also want to state i am not a fan of RDMs managerial skills either, i much prefer Rafa at the helm for his tactical awareness and motivational aspects to his management style, but god he under estimated QPR and yes excatly like you said didn't react to 11men behind the ball and us failing to break them down (or even look like that, until Mata/Hazard came on!)
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