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Bluejava
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden135 Posts
November 26 2012 20:07 GMT
#3421
Everton playing so good this year, I sure have waited for it....

God bless David Moyes
"I've learned one thing for sure: Life is random and chaotic. Trying to put things into a pattern will only temporarily solve the problem. Once you embrace the madness, it will stop feeling overwhelming."
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 26 2012 20:25 GMT
#3422
On November 26 2012 23:54 DragoonPK wrote:
I'll just put this here.

Ah, good old Carlo Zampa. :D He always does that when Roma scores an important goal. Most biased commentator alive.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
November 27 2012 14:03 GMT
#3423
Barton at it again.

sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18443 Posts
November 27 2012 21:10 GMT
#3424
wow who is joey barton o.o
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
November 27 2012 21:37 GMT
#3425
On November 28 2012 06:10 sharkie wrote:
wow who is joey barton o.o


Seriously? xD

Joey Barton...the idiot of English football, until we finally off loaded him to France?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 22:00:06
November 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#3426
Villa getting an important win along with a tie last saturday against Arsenal, it has been a good week for them!
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 23:35:33
November 27 2012 23:35 GMT
#3427
On November 28 2012 06:37 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 06:10 sharkie wrote:
wow who is joey barton o.o


Seriously? xD

Joey Barton...the idiot of English football, until we finally off loaded him to France?


LOL. hahaahahhaahahahah

He should stay there.
Dear Sixsmith...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
November 28 2012 11:43 GMT
#3428
News

Champions League May Become A 64 Team Tournmanet & No Europa League

European football's governing body Uefa is considering ditching the Europa League in favour of extending the Champions League from 32 to 64 teams.

It means seven English clubs and five Scottish teams could qualify for European football's elite competition.

Source


Posted in both Threads in case others don't see
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
November 28 2012 11:55 GMT
#3429
Sounds like a decent idea, Europa league is kinda bullshit anyway and this way the money will be more evenly divided between the top teams and the subtop.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 13:22:46
November 28 2012 13:15 GMT
#3430
I agree Europa league is pointless. BUT, champions league was the European cup, to get into that you needed to win your league, so when you won your league you played against other winners of domestic leagues. If this comes in, why call it the champions league anymore? It will just be a European Cup. You could be playing against a team who has finished 7th in the Premiership or 5th in the Scottish league....thats not very good for a champions league described tournament.

Also, Liverpool both won the competition from finishing 4th in the league the previous year and they would not of even been in it years ago for finishing that low. I do like the idea of more teams getting money, but i think we will start seeing more "fluke wins". Teams who finish 5/6/7th in their leagues getting to semi finals/finals and even winning the competition because "they had a good run" i think diminishes the value of the tournament.

Look at the Europa league now for proof, teams who finish 3rd in the Champions League should walk that competition, but they don't. Man Utd and Man City arguably had the best teams/squads in that competition last season and both got beaten, United by Bilbao, who right now are very poor La Liga side, and City by Sporting Lisbon who are an average Portuguese team. No one really cares for the Europa League because the big teams are not in it? If the final was Man Utd vs Man City which it arguably should of been (on paper i know) then it would of probably got a lot of viewers.

This is how i would do it (posted in champs league thread too)

Champions League - 1st 2nd from Spanish/English/Italian/German/Dutch/French/Portuguese/Russian leagues - other leagues go into qualifiers. Then a straight knock out competition with seeds based on leagues for the first time. Then that is the elite of the elite imo.

Uefa Cup 2.0 - 3/4/5 of the elite leagues wrote above go straight into group stage, then qualifiers for the other leagues. Then they go into a knock out competition too.

Super Cup - Winner of each competition plays eachother for a chance to move onto the Club World Cup (makes more of a meaning to this competition then too)

That is how i would do it. With less teams playing in the champions league, it should mean that tuesday could be champions league night, and weds uefa cup night. meaning less stress of fixture blockage too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
November 28 2012 13:20 GMT
#3431
On November 28 2012 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Also, Liverpool both won the competition from finishing 4th in the league the previous year and they would not of even been in it years ago for finishing that low. I do like the idea of more teams getting money, but i think we will start seeing more "fluke wins". Teams who finish 5/6/7th in their leagues getting to semi finals/finals and even winning the competition because "they had a good run" i think diminishes the value of the tournament.


Like Chelsea lolz.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
November 28 2012 13:21 GMT
#3432
On November 28 2012 22:20 Stimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Also, Liverpool both won the competition from finishing 4th in the league the previous year and they would not of even been in it years ago for finishing that low. I do like the idea of more teams getting money, but i think we will start seeing more "fluke wins". Teams who finish 5/6/7th in their leagues getting to semi finals/finals and even winning the competition because "they had a good run" i think diminishes the value of the tournament.


Like Chelsea lolz.


Our team was better than theirs though :W
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 15:38:42
November 28 2012 15:37 GMT
#3433
They should actually have a mini league/giant group competition thing, with just the winners of the top 5 leagues in Europe ie: La Liga, Premiership, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, call it the Champions League (because its actually a league). The the teams that end top on points play each other in a final.

Then have a Europa cup for the others
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 28 2012 18:42 GMT
#3434
On November 29 2012 00:37 UdderChaos wrote:
They should actually have a mini league/giant group competition thing, with just the winners of the top 5 leagues in Europe ie: La Liga, Premiership, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, call it the Champions League (because its actually a league). The the teams that end top on points play each other in a final.

Then have a Europa cup for the others


The top 20clubs in Europe dream about an european league (closed would be perfect but they don't even bother to claim that :D) but for everyone else it's a slow death so it's no going to happen. Nobody will want your solution because it's a clear cut in the income of top football clubs and of the club of minor championships who play c1. btw the PL champion might go down with like 2points in 6match not sure if it's worth doing him any favor :D (or the Ligue 1 champion btw :p)
Zest fanboy.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 19:32:27
November 28 2012 19:13 GMT
#3435
Well I don't like it at all. Even though I could see my countries teams playing more often but then Champions League is not what it says anymore. Competition for champions.

So for me I would just gladly accept this format:

1. Reduce top9 countries top flight competitors to 16 clubs (who has more than that)
2. Bottom 2 drops out from each domestic leagues.
3. League champions from each top9 countries gets spot to Champions League
4. Countries outside of top9 (cup winner is allowed to enter too) enters Europa Cup where champion is granted spot to Champions League.
5. Champions League is round robin and total 18 games (home/away) for each team.
6. Most points after season is over is crowned as Champion of Europe.
7. Bottom of Champions League country drops out and is being replaced by Europa cup winner.

Only problem is how to allocate country points, aka how to get top9 countries.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 28 2012 20:16 GMT
#3436
Go Tottenham!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
November 28 2012 22:20 GMT
#3437
Haha i wonder if Polish team(s) manage to qualify to extended CL, i mean we couldn't do that in last 15 years, despite being 38 milion country in the middle of Europe and Platini's reform in 07'.
But if they really make it for 64 teams, they should change the name as someone mentioned earlier, I mean it wouldn't be Champions League, more like Europe League/Cup.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 28 2012 22:46 GMT
#3438
On November 29 2012 00:37 UdderChaos wrote:
They should actually have a mini league/giant group competition thing, with just the winners of the top 5 leagues in Europe ie: La Liga, Premiership, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, call it the Champions League (because its actually a league). The the teams that end top on points play each other in a final.

Then have a Europa cup for the others

I agree with this.
For me knock-out football is crap compared with league football - because there's no need to try to win. That's why you get rubbish defensive teams like Chelsea/Inter winning it.
You can't win the premiership (or any other league) if you can't attack well. You're gonna get lots of draws and worse teams are going to pick you off away from home.
If the champions league actually was a league it would be WAY more exciting and you would have great matches between the top teams every year.
I don't agree that there is a money issue here. A league like that would draw WAY more viewers and more money overall. Top teams would make so much money from the tickets you could spread the TV rights out among all the lesser teams and everyone would end up better off.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 23:26:57
November 28 2012 23:21 GMT
#3439
On November 29 2012 00:37 UdderChaos wrote:
They should actually have a mini league/giant group competition thing, with just the winners of the top 5 leagues in Europe ie: La Liga, Premiership, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, call it the Champions League (because its actually a league). The the teams that end top on points play each other in a final.

Then have a Europa cup for the others


I Agree.. But it should be with Portugal, Netherlands and Russia and make it 8 Countries. Btw Portugal is in front of France in the Uefa Ranking, altough by the end of the year we'll probably be behind. Calling Ligue 1 a top 5 and leaving Portugal out doesn't show a lot of knowledge. I know that the french league is CLEARLY better than the Portuguese. But we're talkin about TOP clubs here, and you can't leave Porto and Benfica out to have montpellier, or marseille, or even Lyon...
Nich
Profile Joined April 2010
397 Posts
December 01 2012 13:30 GMT
#3440
lol cech wtf punch
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