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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 14 2012 04:59 GMT
#41
On March 04 2012 07:07 Barrin wrote:
Lots of cardio.

LOTS. OF. CARDIO.

Run a lot.


Combine the two.

I legitimately passed some dude doing this, and he was running an okay clip too, somewhere around 8:00 pace.
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LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
March 14 2012 05:33 GMT
#42
for me, quitting cigarettes was pretty easy. a few years ago when they went to the FSC (fire-safe cigarette) formula for cigarettes (which, by the way, involes lacing the cigarette paper with *******CARPET GLUE******* to slow the burn) i found that cigarettes became metallic tasting, and very disgusting.

I'm sure many of you remember.....before the fire safe BULLSHIT, cigarettes were actually SWEET, and pleasant tasting! now, with the carpet glue in them, they taste like complete shit. i think mainly the only people who still smoke cigarettes are those who either a) smoke while they drink (socially) or b) are too addicted to quit smoking cigarettes even with how nasty they taste now.

i think it's hilarious that the FDA bans marijuana, meanwhile putting carpet glue in cigarettes...they are completely unconcerned with smoker's health (their attitude: after all, they're already killing themselves by smoking right?)
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 01:46:32
March 19 2012 01:37 GMT
#43
[image loading]

They put so many harsh chemicals in those things its shocking.

They put BENZENE cigs...I'm a biology major and I can tell you when cells are exposed to benzene they quite literally die or mutate on contact, you wouldn't believe how destructive it is to cellular tissues. You can actually watch this happen under a microscope..benzene destroys cells on contact.

I am amazed they are allowed to sell cigs, let alone people actually smoke them. Its just so horrible for you. Studies have shown the single most benefical thing you can do for your health is to quit smoking. Quality exercise, diet, and sleeping habits mean nothing if you put those toxins into your body.

Dont be stupid. Seriously, dont start smoking. [image loading]
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 01:38:37
March 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#44
double post
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
March 19 2012 06:57 GMT
#45
If you choose to smoke I believe you need to eat very healthy to compensate.
Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
March 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#46
Its mostly about genetics though, the worlds oldest living person ever recorded (Jeanne Calment) smoked a couple of cigarettes every day and she lived to be 122.

Or you can smoke something that doesnt hurt your lunges like weed or cigars (you dont inhale cigar smoke)
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
March 19 2012 11:46 GMT
#47
On March 09 2012 00:05 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
This is something I'd be interested in the answer to. I smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, which is by no means a lot. I'm still fit, my breathing/singing has not changed at all, and I don't -feel- like there is any damage.
My friend went to a doctor asking something similar (he smoke somewhere between 10-15 a day) and was told the risk he was at was minimal.

For everybody hating on smoking (which they ought not to be, this isn't the hate-smoker thread), I smoke because I enjoy it. I like the taste, I like the feeling of nicotine and it can help me relax. It also helps me get a break from the computer every hour or so when I'm playing Starcraft. Drinking imo, is worse, and I'm willing to bet that the majority of people in this thread have been drunk/get drunk regularly (I haven't drank in 4 years). It contains calories, it's more addictive, and it turns you into a different person when you take it.


I would much rather you drink. My ONLY peeve with smoking is secondhand smoke. I don't give a shit that you're killing yourself, just don't bring me down with you. Secondhand smoke smells like shit, stays on your clothing, negatively (even worse than smoking yourself?) affects the people around you, etc. It's even worse when people are wearing contact lenses / have sensitive lungs, etc.

So yeah, don't smoke - not because of your health, but because it's downright sick disrespectful to the people around you.
too easy
ElizarTringov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Bulgaria317 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 12:48:48
March 19 2012 12:47 GMT
#48
On March 19 2012 19:49 Pulimuli wrote:
Its mostly about genetics though, the worlds oldest living person ever recorded (Jeanne Calment) smoked a couple of cigarettes every day and she lived to be 122.

Or you can smoke something that doesnt hurt your lunges like weed or cigars (you dont inhale cigar smoke)


Why would weed not hurt your lungs? It is smoke going to your lungs, that can't be good for your lungs regardless of what the source of the smoke is.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
March 19 2012 14:22 GMT
#49
On March 19 2012 21:47 ElizarTringov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:49 Pulimuli wrote:
Its mostly about genetics though, the worlds oldest living person ever recorded (Jeanne Calment) smoked a couple of cigarettes every day and she lived to be 122.

Or you can smoke something that doesnt hurt your lunges like weed or cigars (you dont inhale cigar smoke)


Why would weed not hurt your lungs? It is smoke going to your lungs, that can't be good for your lungs regardless of what the source of the smoke is.


That might be true, i just know it doesnt cause cancer.

Also the quantity of smoke being inhaled with weed is alot smaller compared to those who smoke a pack of cig's a day (since nobody really smokes 20 joints per day)
killamane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States138 Posts
March 19 2012 17:03 GMT
#50
On March 09 2012 09:33 OMin wrote:
e-cigs are a possibility. i think these are too new for there to be substantial health risk information on them, but honestly, there are few things worse than smoking for your health. I think the fact you're inhaling vapor instead of smoke takes a lot of the risk out of the equation


Hi ecig is very good, its like smoking a cig without all the chemicals and purely nicotine and water vapor. Ive been vaping for almost 12 months now. as soon as i got one of these i stopped smoking real cigs / cigar instantly. it gives the same feeling in the throat and in the brain as hitting a cig, and they have so many good flavors its insane. not to mention i feel way healthier. they say all the benefits of quitting smoking are the same as quitting smoking and starting to vape. (vape = use ecig)

for anyone interested check out vapor4life.com ( best quality e-cig's and flavor selection iv'e found, and the only vendor iv'e purchased off of my entire smokeless life)

its far cheaper than smoking cigs (i did the math- if u smoke half pack of cig a day, [where im from] it cost 80$ a month, where as a month of vaping cost 20$ per month)

feel free to msg me on tl.net if u have any questions on getting started.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
March 19 2012 17:26 GMT
#51
I wish you added a spoiler tag for that picture of the lungs. I feel sick now, and I'm never smoking.
Life's good :D
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
March 19 2012 17:32 GMT
#52
On March 09 2012 00:16 KaoReal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 10:09 MethodSC wrote:
Just smoke weed instead. 1 blunt a day will leave you with a 0% greater chance of getting lung cancer.

Edit: I forgot to mention the feeling after you workout when you're high is one of the greatest feelings on this earth

Just for clarification, do you work out high, or smoke a blunt PWO?


Sorry yeah for clarification I work out high, you could smoke afterwards as well if you wanted lol.

For the person asking why weed wouldn't hurt your lungs. There are many studies showing that smoking a couple joints a day will have no negative effects on your lungs or lung capacity. If you use a vaporizer there are no negative effects on the lungs at all.
baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
March 19 2012 18:30 GMT
#53
I can't see how breathing was even an option with that set of lungs.
Seriously, why the fuck would you post that picture... its gross.
noq uote
Isomer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
April 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#54
The better question is how long will you be able to smoke casually before you're just addicted? Find a better stress reliever.

Winner of the thread here. The chance is that eventually you will smoke JUST TWO a week, then eventually JUST ONE PACK a week. OP, why would you take that chance? The amount your health will be compromised by a nicotine addiction, even if adjusted for the chance of that happening, is FAR GREATER than what you get from smoking casually
There's nothing cooler than being proud of what you love
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 24 2012 21:00 GMT
#55
I wonder what's worse...

1 cigarette in a day.
OR Commuting up to four hours in smoggy Toronto on a Summer's day.

Seriously, if you're only smoking 1 cig. a day, or making a pack last 2 months you're doing pretty well.
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TheRealDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States213 Posts
April 24 2012 21:54 GMT
#56
I've been a smoker since I was 15. I'm 22 now and I smoke 7 cigarettes a day, no more, no less. While I see alot of people repulsed by it, It is still my choice to smoke. I enjoy it, I like it and it gives me a reason to go outside and walk the dog lol. Alcohol can be just as bad for you if consumed on a regular basis as smoking.

The one thing that really confused me in health class was the fact that many studies are based off the subject smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. At least that is the way it was done when I was still in school. There have been no studies, to my knowledge, of how much tar your body actually cleanses on a daily basis. More of them are just geared for the repulsive factor.

As a smoker, I feel that is fine to smoke but you should not attach cigarettes to emotional states just like any activity that you do. You will end up smoking more and more because emotions change constantly. If you are smoking because of stress then you really do need to stop. Life is filled with stress. It really is a mind over matter type deal.
"They claim that we violent. We named after Tyrants. This revolution won't be televised we keep it silent."
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 23:59:41
April 24 2012 23:58 GMT
#57
There have been no studies, to my knowledge, of how much tar your body actually cleanses on a daily basis. More of them are just geared for the repulsive factor.


Your body can't remove the stuff that it can't break down... so tar is just going to accumulate as you see with the black lungs. Tar isn't biodegradable.

On the other hand, your body can heal damage to some extent, but yeah, tar and all that other stuff are known carcinogens and whatnot
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Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
April 25 2012 07:40 GMT
#58
Smoking has a beneficial role to your lungs and respiration if done in very small amounts

-Source: Med school.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
April 26 2012 04:58 GMT
#59
On April 25 2012 16:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Smoking has a beneficial role to your lungs and respiration if done in very small amounts

-Source: Med school.


I heard that smoking a moderate amount for one year can increase your lung capacity.

-Source: College track coach.

When I was running on a team in college we tried to get one person to smoke for a year as an experiment but nobody wanted to.
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
April 30 2012 15:01 GMT
#60
I'm in the same boat as OP here. I was a smoker of around ~5 a day, so by no means heavy. As I started training for the 400m, I quit (2 weeks or so without a cigarette here), but I miss smoking, not because I'm addicted (I have nicotine replacement), but because I love the taste and the act of smoking.

I've tried e-cigarettes, but they don't taste the same at all.
Has anybody tried "American Spirit" cigarettes? they contain no additives, but I can't find any studies into whether they do as much damage to your lungs. I guess ultimately, I'm looking for a way to smoke without affecting my running. Any ideas?
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