Smoking sustainably / responsibly, long-term - Page 2

Slithe

United States985 Posts

March 06 2012 20:05 GMT

#21

On March 06 2012 11:46 Bigtony wrote:
The better question is how long will you be able to smoke casually before you're just addicted? Find a better stress reliever.

Well he's been doing it for a few years already, so maybe he can handle it. Some people are better at avoiding addiction than others.

FiWiFaKi

Canada9858 Posts

March 06 2012 20:57 GMT

#22

I always think of smoking like eating junk food. Eating 500g of chips and a chocolate bar everyday definitely wont be healthy.

But having a 28g bag each day as a snack wont do too much damage...

Maybe that's not how smoking works, but that's how I think of it. I don't buy smokes myself, but if my friend goes out to smoke sometimes I ask for one, it helps me relax, I never have a desire for another right away though.

I smoke maybe 2-4 per month, honestly with those 2-4 smokes or none, I think my life would be the exact same.

mordek

United States12704 Posts

March 06 2012 21:39 GMT

#23

On March 04 2012 14:10 Warillions wrote:
do we got a docta in tha house? an answer from a non 14 year old kid with opinions influenced by his/her christian parents would be cool

Very mature contribution to the discussion -.-

I'm with Bigtony, plenty of other stress relievers that don't have harmful effects. Not the answer you're looking for though, I hope you get that peace of mind

Pieprophet

United States3 Posts

March 06 2012 21:48 GMT

#24

The issue with asking this question is that, as far as I know, no one is really going to have an answer for you. This is not something people have done studies on, and given the anti-smoking sentiment (at least here in America, maybe this is not an issue in other countries) I do not see anyone one being willing to start such a study (I can not imagine it lasting longer than a week before someone started calling you a pawn of the tobacco companies). The other thing I want to say, and someone kind of touched on it, is be really careful with nicotine. That shit is addictive as hell (for the record I am a two pack a day smoker). Do not think that just because you have not had an issue yet (and if you say you are having cravings, that's the start of it). So the question you should be asking is not "how much can I smoke without killing my lungs," but rather "how much can I smoke without getting addicted." Once you cross that line, it really sucks trying to get back, and once you are addicted, you are going to have an even harder time "just smoking here and there." I do not mean to scare anyone, nor to say you should not smoke at all, just that you need to be very careful, to avoid screwing yourself over here. I would say that if you are already having cravings, you need to smoke less than you are now, or you run the risk of winding up smoking two packs a day in a couple years.

Deadeight

United Kingdom1629 Posts

March 07 2012 15:35 GMT

#25

I think as well you need to think about the carcinogens right? As I understand it you can get lung cancer from one cigarette, and each cigarette will increase the chance of a mutation as it exposes you to further carcinogens. So even one is possibly unsustainable.

I'm a Physics/Maths student though, haven't done biology since school, this is just as I remember it from A-levels.

glurio

Germany597 Posts

March 07 2012 15:46 GMT

#26

Pretty much what deadeight said.
The carcinogens in the cigarette will settle in your lung and may cause cell mutation, after the second hit to the dna it may lead to a cancerous growth, so just one cigarette can be enough to give yourself lung cancer. Also basically all those nasty ass throat cancers are highly related to smoking and drinking, so your chances of getting one of those will go up too. And believe me those are some of the nastiest cancers one can get.

Don't smoke people, it's a stupid thing to do. If you like the nicotine, get a gum. If you wanna relax, go out and have sex.

MethodSC

United States928 Posts

March 08 2012 01:09 GMT

#27

Just smoke weed instead. 1 blunt a day will leave you with a 0% greater chance of getting lung cancer.

Edit: I forgot to mention the feeling after you workout when you're high is one of the greatest feelings on this earth

Deadeight

United Kingdom1629 Posts

March 08 2012 12:18 GMT

#28

On March 08 2012 10:09 MethodSC wrote:
Just smoke weed instead. 1 blunt a day will leave you with a 0% greater chance of getting lung cancer.

Edit: I forgot to mention the feeling after you workout when you're high is one of the greatest feelings on this earth

Don't people mix tobacco into them? I'm pretty ignorant on that stuff. On top of that just the paper burning will mean you inhale carcinogens.

CluEleSs_UK

United Kingdom583 Posts

March 08 2012 15:05 GMT

#29

This is something I'd be interested in the answer to. I smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, which is by no means a lot. I'm still fit, my breathing/singing has not changed at all, and I don't -feel- like there is any damage.
My friend went to a doctor asking something similar (he smoke somewhere between 10-15 a day) and was told the risk he was at was minimal.

For everybody hating on smoking (which they ought not to be, this isn't the hate-smoker thread), I smoke because I enjoy it. I like the taste, I like the feeling of nicotine and it can help me relax. It also helps me get a break from the computer every hour or so when I'm playing Starcraft. Drinking imo, is worse, and I'm willing to bet that the majority of people in this thread have been drunk/get drunk regularly (I haven't drank in 4 years). It contains calories, it's more addictive, and it turns you into a different person when you take it.

KaoReal

Canada340 Posts

March 08 2012 15:16 GMT

#30

Just for clarification, do you work out high, or smoke a blunt PWO?

Deadeight

United Kingdom1629 Posts

March 08 2012 15:24 GMT

#31

On March 09 2012 00:05 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
This is something I'd be interested in the answer to. I smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, which is by no means a lot. I'm still fit, my breathing/singing has not changed at all, and I don't -feel- like there is any damage.
My friend went to a doctor asking something similar (he smoke somewhere between 10-15 a day) and was told the risk he was at was minimal.

For everybody hating on smoking (which they ought not to be, this isn't the hate-smoker thread), I smoke because I enjoy it. I like the taste, I like the feeling of nicotine and it can help me relax. It also helps me get a break from the computer every hour or so when I'm playing Starcraft. Drinking imo, is worse, and I'm willing to bet that the majority of people in this thread have been drunk/get drunk regularly (I haven't drank in 4 years). It contains calories, it's more addictive, and it turns you into a different person when you take it.

Alcohol is more addictive than nicotine...? That's only alcoholics.

skindzer

Chile5114 Posts

March 08 2012 16:45 GMT

#32

Smoking 10-15 cigars a day is definitely not minimal if you ask me. Your lungs wont be the same.

solidbebe

Netherlands4921 Posts

March 08 2012 16:54 GMT

#33

On March 09 2012 00:05 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
This is something I'd be interested in the answer to. I smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, which is by no means a lot. I'm still fit, my breathing/singing has not changed at all, and I don't -feel- like there is any damage.
My friend went to a doctor asking something similar (he smoke somewhere between 10-15 a day) and was told the risk he was at was minimal.

For everybody hating on smoking (which they ought not to be, this isn't the hate-smoker thread), I smoke because I enjoy it. I like the taste, I like the feeling of nicotine and it can help me relax. It also helps me get a break from the computer every hour or so when I'm playing Starcraft. Drinking imo, is worse, and I'm willing to bet that the majority of people in this thread have been drunk/get drunk regularly (I haven't drank in 4 years). It contains calories, it's more addictive, and it turns you into a different person when you take it.

Alcoholic drinks contain calories? BURN THE STUFF!!! Calories are EVIL!!!

FFGenerations

7088 Posts

March 08 2012 17:44 GMT

#34

smoking "casually" rapes your oxygen capacity. you wont be able to intake enough oxygen. you will really feel it in the gym and your ability will decrease as you cant do that extra rep. you will also get addicted in about a week trying to smoke "casually". it just takes one single fuckup (ie having 5 one night then 1 the day after) and you're screwed again.

FFGenerations

7088 Posts

March 08 2012 17:48 GMT

#35

On March 08 2012 21:18 Deadeight wrote:

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Don't people mix tobacco into them? I'm pretty ignorant on that stuff. On top of that just the paper burning will mean you inhale carcinogens.

i thought the latest consensus is that smoking weed is carcinogenic anyway (and you should instead use a vaporiser..)

Mementoss

Canada2595 Posts

March 08 2012 17:57 GMT

#36

Before smoking was illegal in most public places, resurants malls etc. and before my parents quit smoking I was probably in second hand smoke like 50% of the time. Will this effect my health in the future, or do all bad things about smoking go away in about 15 years as they state?

Also in regards to the OP, I never thought of smoking as casual smoking cause there just isn't many people who do it. Why is this? I don't know I've never smokes, maybe its more addicting, or the fact that is smoking is more socially acceptable to do. For instance on your break at work you can go outside and smoke or situations similar, while it would be frowned upon in those same situations to go out and have a beer or some scotch. Also is could be the convience of it being so easy to carry on you at all times that leads to temptation.

TLDR; Just try to not do it. Many people look down towards smoking and many girls won't go out with smokers if they don't smoke and I don't blame them. It's also bad for your health. Overall if your going to do it, of course smoking 1-2 cigarettes a day is better than the average pack a dayer.

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

March 08 2012 19:55 GMT

#37

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arcHoniC

United States141 Posts

March 08 2012 21:09 GMT

#38

Hey OP, I was in the same place you were a couple years ago. Smoking is a really great way to relax for 10 minutes then continue with your day. I never got addicted I just had a cigarette every week or so. Ill tell you what, the mental addiction doesnt really go away, I still crave one every now and then without ever being physically addicted. What helped me a lot my gf hated that I smoked and she really put her foot down on getting me to stop. I dont know if I really have a point, just that smoking is really great but if you can find some kind of motivation to stop it will probably be for the better.

Also

Things like weed and drinking cant really help that because they have a longer buzz associated with them, for instance you can not drink/get high at work but taking a 10 minute smoke break is not a problem.

decafchicken

United States20019 Posts

March 08 2012 21:14 GMT

#39

On March 08 2012 21:18 Deadeight wrote:

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Don't people mix tobacco into them? I'm pretty ignorant on that stuff. On top of that just the paper burning will mean you inhale carcinogens.

That's mostly a uk thing. Using a water bong or vaporizer can reduce or eliminate the carcinogens

OMin

United States545 Posts

March 09 2012 00:33 GMT

#40

e-cigs are a possibility. i think these are too new for there to be substantial health risk information on them, but honestly, there are few things worse than smoking for your health. I think the fact you're inhaling vapor instead of smoke takes a lot of the risk out of the equation

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