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On November 06 2011 05:41 Therick wrote:
Man CF is so dumb, CF was invented so that girls could lift weights, cus if they just lift regular weights they will become jacked and hyuuge, therefore they invented cf where you still lift weights, but you wont gain sh.t on it cus the workout regime is retarded.
Also brb spine injures in your 20s cus of all the stupid f.cking kipping pull ups and squats and pulls with sh.t form.
This is 100% wrong.
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My buddies over here in Iraq showed me some of the WOD's and I got smoked.
Currently I am hooked! :D
I'm also doing SealFit, It's just a longer duration for the workouts.
I love doing thrusters <3
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It seems that xfit gyms vary one from the next. I've seen some vids where the oly lifts are done with very bad form and the instructors still let the participants continue.
I hope that these are the fewer ones and that quality control is improved.
Anyway xfit is a way to get into lifting, but if you focus on strength or plyometrics one at a time it would yield better results rather than trying to achieve both by doing circuit routines. A lot of fatigue but not very effective.
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I switched from my regular workouts to Crossfit about a month ago. For me it was a motivational reason, I have been training either split or 5x5 for a couple of years now and I no longer get enjoyment out of it, I needed something different and I needed the social and motivational aspect of crossfit. They made me do a 4 session fundamental class initially teaching all the movements.
It was great because I have always wanted to know how to do the clean and jerk correctly. I still can't do a proper overhead squat without falling over, need more practise!
I did my first session yesterday which involved a series of warm ups and a bit of cardio followed by the workout which was
3-3-3-3-3-3-3 Deadlifts with the last 4 sets being work sets. Followed by
6-6-6-6-6 Push Press with last 3 sets being work sets.
I thought it was a great workout
Form wise I did 1 bad deadlift and the instructor made me de-load and do 2 light sets until she was happy I had corrected my form. I did however notice during the lighter weight high intensity exercises they don't seem to target incorrect form as often.
I went again today and the same thing, a warm up session followed by the workout which was
500mtr row
50 x front squat and press I only used about 30kg And it still took me sets of 10-7-7-5-3-3-2-2-3-3-2-3 to finish the 50, I was struggling boy!
50 x Burpees
500mtr row
Now, while I did really well on the deadlifts and press the day before and probably top 10% in terms of strength due to 5x5. I think I finished 2rd or 3rd last in today's workout while there we guys who finished it 5-6minutes before me with 3x more weight on their front squat and presses..
I really admire the athleticism of everyone attending, and I am not ashamed to say I am horribly unfit in comparison to some of those guys. I think I will try this for a year and report on the results.
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On November 10 2011 17:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
One thing though. Kipping pull-ups irk the fuck out of me. I have yet to understand the point.
Someone at my gym told me it was to add cardio to pull-ups. I almost pissed my pants laughing.
Sorry to sound like a noob but would you like to enlighten me as to what the purpose of kipping pull-ups are meant for?
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On November 11 2011 12:42 Obstikal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2011 17:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
One thing though. Kipping pull-ups irk the fuck out of me. I have yet to understand the point.
Someone at my gym told me it was to add cardio to pull-ups. I almost pissed my pants laughing. Sorry to sound like a noob but would you like to enlighten me as to what the purpose of kipping pull-ups are meant for?
Turning a strength workout metabolic, for some obscure reason?
Unleashing sexual frustration on the bar?
God knows.
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While I don't have any issue with CrossFit itself, even if I don't think it's really the best approach for most peoples goals, it seems to attract many fanatical followers.
I'll never forget being at a race and having some lady go off about running alot was going to make me unhealthy and age faster and destroy my body and crap. Suggest to some of these diehards that CF isn't the holy grail and they go crazy on you.
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Yeah I don't have a problem with CF, just listening the people who do it that talk like they ate the enlightened ones.
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On November 10 2011 23:02 FraCuS wrote:
I love doing thrusters <3
It's funny. Thrusters are actually one of my favorite movements. If you really engage your core, I feel it through my entire body.
My favorite workout is Fran, by far. :D
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On November 11 2011 14:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 12:42 Obstikal wrote:On November 10 2011 17:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
One thing though. Kipping pull-ups irk the fuck out of me. I have yet to understand the point.
Someone at my gym told me it was to add cardio to pull-ups. I almost pissed my pants laughing. Sorry to sound like a noob but would you like to enlighten me as to what the purpose of kipping pull-ups are meant for? Turning a strength workout metabolic, for some obscure reason? Unleashing sexual frustration on the bar? God knows.
Same reason you exercise with 80% of your 1rm on the bar.
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On November 14 2011 18:09 Brotkrumen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 14:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On November 11 2011 12:42 Obstikal wrote:On November 10 2011 17:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
One thing though. Kipping pull-ups irk the fuck out of me. I have yet to understand the point.
Someone at my gym told me it was to add cardio to pull-ups. I almost pissed my pants laughing. Sorry to sound like a noob but would you like to enlighten me as to what the purpose of kipping pull-ups are meant for? Turning a strength workout metabolic, for some obscure reason? Unleashing sexual frustration on the bar? God knows. Same reason you exercise with 80% of your 1rm on the bar.
Sorry, I don't know what you're getting at 
I'm not being snarky either, please explain, I really want to understand kipping and its purpose.
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Believe me when I say that I also hate die-hard CF fanboys who think CF is the answer to EVERYTHING.
I just think it's fucking fun to do. I love the competition - EVERY day in a CF setting is a competition on who finishes first/gets the most reps/etc. With that said, I do a lot of pure strength training with the goal of getting better at CF.
@Shallow, Obstikal:
As far as I'm concerned, the strict pullup and the kipping pullup are not the same exercises and thus should not be treated as such. So it's not a question of which is best - you do weighted strict pullups for strength while you do kipping pullups for cardio.
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On November 15 2011 00:48 Nazarene wrote:
Believe me when I say that I also hate die-hard CF fanboys who think CF is the answer to EVERYTHING.
I just think it's fucking fun to do. I love the competition - EVERY day in a CF setting is a competition on who finishes first/gets the most reps/etc. With that said, I do a lot of pure strength training with the goal of getting better at CF.
@Shallow, Obstikal:
As far as I'm concerned, the strict pullup and the kipping pullup are not the same exercises and thus should not be treated as such. So it's not a question of which is best - you do weighted strict pullups for strength while you do kipping pullups for cardio.
The confusing part of that argument to me is why you wouldn't just do conventional cardio instead...maybe just to stave away boredom, which is a perfectly good excuse for a cardio-hater like me :p
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On November 16 2011 02:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 00:48 Nazarene wrote:
Believe me when I say that I also hate die-hard CF fanboys who think CF is the answer to EVERYTHING.
I just think it's fucking fun to do. I love the competition - EVERY day in a CF setting is a competition on who finishes first/gets the most reps/etc. With that said, I do a lot of pure strength training with the goal of getting better at CF.
@Shallow, Obstikal:
As far as I'm concerned, the strict pullup and the kipping pullup are not the same exercises and thus should not be treated as such. So it's not a question of which is best - you do weighted strict pullups for strength while you do kipping pullups for cardio. The confusing part of that argument to me is why you wouldn't just do conventional cardio instead...maybe just to stave away boredom, which is a perfectly good excuse for a cardio-hater like me :p
What is conventional cardio?
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He's probably referring to running, swimming, biking, etc.
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This is the kind of training most MMA fighters utilize. Seeing as their objective in life is to pulverize another highly jacked and trained individual into oblivion, it's a safe bet CF is very effective at developing functional strength and overall athleticism.
On the other hand, if you want to look like a tanned sausage who can hardly wipe it's own ass steroids and heavy weights are still the way to go XD
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do you have any references to show that fighters use crossfit? I'd assume they would do work outs related to their art(s) rather than some hybrid of cardio/weight lifting. That's how it worked for wrestling. Hell, I went to a D2(I think? I forget I want to say it was a D1 school but I can't find any good info on it but I'm lazy http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/wrest/index) wrestling camp senior year of highschool and we were either in the weight room doing compound lifts or on the mat.
Also the heavy lifting stereotype is very ignorant.
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On November 16 2011 07:52 decafchicken wrote:
He's probably referring to running, swimming, biking, etc.
Which is very boring to most people, and exactly my point :-) with CF you get cardio without even noticing it :-D
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I don't think I'd be able to a single muscle up without kipping up the pullup phase. I guess it serves a few purposes.
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On November 16 2011 07:28 Nazarene wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 02:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On November 15 2011 00:48 Nazarene wrote:
Believe me when I say that I also hate die-hard CF fanboys who think CF is the answer to EVERYTHING.
I just think it's fucking fun to do. I love the competition - EVERY day in a CF setting is a competition on who finishes first/gets the most reps/etc. With that said, I do a lot of pure strength training with the goal of getting better at CF.
@Shallow, Obstikal:
As far as I'm concerned, the strict pullup and the kipping pullup are not the same exercises and thus should not be treated as such. So it's not a question of which is best - you do weighted strict pullups for strength while you do kipping pullups for cardio. The confusing part of that argument to me is why you wouldn't just do conventional cardio instead...maybe just to stave away boredom, which is a perfectly good excuse for a cardio-hater like me :p What is conventional cardio?
He says he enjoys the competition and such. If you want to be truly competitive at something like running you have to do a tremendous amount of it, which certainly isn't for everyone, and you have to be willing to have a pretty small body frame. If he still wants a fairly muscular body their just isn't any way he is going to get particularly competitive at running.
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