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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 12 2012 03:25 GMT
#201


stretch those triceps!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
February 12 2012 05:34 GMT
#202
Olympic lifting is the most tiring thing I have ever done.
I get to my squat sets at the end and I am relieved, holy shit.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
February 14 2012 03:23 GMT
#203
So after my coach looked at my form 2 weeks ago I spent much of last week doing empty bar work for my snatches and today I put on a bit of weight on the bar for some hang snatches. I can see that I'm still jumping forward because my elbows are having a hard time understanding how to relax. Here are 3 videos from different angles. Can I please get some advice for other stuff I'm doing wrong? (I'd probably starve as a cameraman... couldn't find a good place to put my phone at all)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeVRqhK4R0A

If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 18:11:50
February 14 2012 18:10 GMT
#204
On February 14 2012 12:23 MeShiet wrote:
So after my coach looked at my form 2 weeks ago I spent much of last week doing empty bar work for my snatches and today I put on a bit of weight on the bar for some hang snatches. I can see that I'm still jumping forward because my elbows are having a hard time understanding how to relax. Here are 3 videos from different angles. Can I please get some advice for other stuff I'm doing wrong? (I'd probably starve as a cameraman... couldn't find a good place to put my phone at all)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeVRqhK4R0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Q-iagCLHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uykRqP5ae0k

Two things i do to relax before i lift are close my eyes and exhale. I'll often snatch up to ~90% with my eyes closed until i have the bar overhead. I usually exhale before lighter reps because it helps me relax. heavier ones i obv need to inhale for inner abdominal pressure.

IMO not much point in doing hang power snatches, i'd go for full snatches and really work on getting your hips through and then pulling yourself under. It doesnt look bad right now it just could be a lot smoother. I'm not sure how i'd describe it other than you're jumping too much too long which is leading to your mildly awkward looking power snatch.. You need to be thinking about getting yourself under the bar before you even finish your pull but still manage to finish your pull though. It's difficult but it just takes a lot of practice to get your nervous system to start working more efficiently. Not bad though, keep it up!

If you look at this vid of dimsum you can kinda see what i'm trying to say. It's a hang clean instead of a hang snatch but same concept. Notice how his pull translates seemlessly into getting under the bar. Try to ignore the sexy shoes/muscles.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
February 15 2012 00:16 GMT
#205
Wow, thanks for the detailed reply there decaf. I'll continue to work on those points. Got a small competition the day after school ends on April 14th so I'm hoping to at least not look like a fool there T_T I am going to exploit my luxury of being able to video tape now and just record my attempts at the classic lifts every session in hopes of seeing improvement.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 15 2012 03:40 GMT
#206
looks good meshiet!

by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 15 2012 12:42 GMT
#207
Can anyone give me any advice on what exercises to do in prep for starting Olympic lifting please?

I've done squats for a few years but I used to be a rower. I did:

5r ~100kg, wait 10s
12r ~80kg, wait 10s
25 reps with ~17.5kg dumbells in each hand, and a ~8cm board under the heels
Wait 2 minutes and repeat again an additional 3 times.

I did squats like this for a long time. Along with 16km sessions on the machines a few times a week I've just gotten a ton of slow twitch. My max squat isn't that high but I can do a lot of reps :l

Now I'm finding it less than ideal. For deadlift I've always just done 5 sets of 5-8 reps.

Should I start doing 8 x 3 or something? Any advice appreciated, thanks.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
February 18 2012 05:20 GMT
#208
WOO happy birthday there DimSum, hope ya have a good one.

Okay, I have a week off of school coming up and it's time for some unrushed lifting sessions =D I took the advice you gave me decaf and did some more snatches from the hang. While the elbows certainly don't feel as weird, I've discovered my position at the bottom of the hole is a tad wobbly. I have a pair of Romaleo 2s coming but I feel like those probably aren't the answer to my problem. Also, I'm starting to understand what is meant by speed under the bar after watching myself. The rest of this month will be working on those problems. I think my next big goal will be to develop a smooth first and second pull. I have issues wrapping my mind over what happens from below to above the knee but that will be a March thing.

I took two more videos. Could I please have some more help and advice for what I can improve upon? As always, I appreciate it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz9ecYFOsss
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 23 2012 03:20 GMT
#209
thanks meshiet!

Keep working on your form it will get better! Try not to rush everything. Catch the bar in the hole and stabilize first, then recover. Also hold the bar at the top of the lift. You don't want to develop bad habits.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland311 Posts
March 06 2012 17:56 GMT
#210
I'm interested in incorporating some oly lifts into my routine. I did SS for 4 months, now on a push/pull.

What should I start with? Any good places to look/ask?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
March 09 2012 16:20 GMT
#211
Check out calstrengths website, they have some good instructional vids. Just work in empty bar to your routine until you have the technique/motion and flexibilty down. I'd find links but I'm on my phone.

Post vids of nationals dimsum!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 09 2012 18:09 GMT
#212
check the op for the cal strength videos.

decaf, all the videos are on this website www.dartfish.tv/Organizer.aspx?CR=p90777#!AQEBAAEBAAEBAQAAAQEBAQYDbHVrAA==

you can see everyone!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Brainslug
Profile Joined June 2010
20 Posts
March 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#213
Woah. Have you guys seen Lu Xiaojun's muscle snatches?






Or his back? (35s)




[image loading]


He makes an 80%-of-max-snatch look so beautiful.



Oh, and here's a 3x bodyweight front squat.

AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 10 2012 03:38 GMT
#214
holy shit that muscle snatch was amazing!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 06:47:29
March 10 2012 06:46 GMT
#215
Read my college's gym policies:

"Olympic Lifts are not allowed...includes but is not limited to cleans and snatches."

Time to find a real gym.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
March 10 2012 07:25 GMT
#216
I ignore pretty much all rules in my "gym". As long as you aren't being destructive or obnoxious you should be fine. The staff have to go out of their way to enforce the rules and as long as you are reasonable and respectable you should be fine. Most rules are in place to protect the gym and it's equipment. If you aren't obviously in danger of damaging gym equipment or yourself you should be fine.
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MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
March 13 2012 05:19 GMT
#217
I came across this just a minute ago and thought it should be shared.

http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/03/zygmunt-smalcerz-clean-presentation.html

It's so technical that a novice like me can't really get much out of it but maybe others can.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
March 13 2012 06:56 GMT
#218
On March 13 2012 14:19 MeShiet wrote:
I came across this just a minute ago and thought it should be shared.

http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/03/zygmunt-smalcerz-clean-presentation.html

It's so technical that a novice like me can't really get much out of it but maybe others can.

The whole time I eww thinking 'a lot of this sounds familiar'...last slide has my coaches name in the credits lol. Mqkes sense.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
March 13 2012 07:26 GMT
#219
Ok guys, I literally know almost nothing about Olympic lifting besides just reading the OP now and I have a few questions to the veterans here.

1. I started out with SL, however I didn't like barbell rows so eventually I switched to weighted pull-ups. I read SS and it said to do power cleans over barbell rows. Is Power cleans a beastly exercise for the back?

2. How well does Clean&Jerks/ snatches carry over with doing my usual big exercises like squats, deadlifts etc? Is it too much to combine strength training as I am now and Olympic lifting? In fact, I'm going to be adding a lot of hypertrophy exercises in 3-6+ months so this is an important question for me.

3. I'm going to be heading back into boxing in the future, is Olympic lifting really good for that?

Also any tips you want to add is much appreciated, I apologize in advance if you get these same questions a lot!
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
March 13 2012 20:26 GMT
#220
On March 13 2012 16:26 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Ok guys, I literally know almost nothing about Olympic lifting besides just reading the OP now and I have a few questions to the veterans here.

1. I started out with SL, however I didn't like barbell rows so eventually I switched to weighted pull-ups. I read SS and it said to do power cleans over barbell rows. Is Power cleans a beastly exercise for the back?

2. How well does Clean&Jerks/ snatches carry over with doing my usual big exercises like squats, deadlifts etc? Is it too much to combine strength training as I am now and Olympic lifting? In fact, I'm going to be adding a lot of hypertrophy exercises in 3-6+ months so this is an important question for me.

3. I'm going to be heading back into boxing in the future, is Olympic lifting really good for that?

Also any tips you want to add is much appreciated, I apologize in advance if you get these same questions a lot!


1) Yeah power cleans are fucking awesome for your back.

2) they carry over very well. every snatch and clean basically starts off with a speed deadlift. It raised my max dl from 485 to 525 pounds over time without ever actually training deadlifts. squatting is part of olympic lifting, so yeah. You can incorporate olympic lifting into your training but if you want to compete its hard to work hypertrophy in too. olympic lifting is power training, and strength is part of power.

3) I imagine so. Its great for your shoulders/back/core so that should help. It's largely about power legs and hips which i imagine helps a lot with footwork/incorporating your body into the punch.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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