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On January 29 2011 17:44 Energies wrote:
Decaf, I have a game for you mate.
It's call the 100 shots in 100 minutes challenge.
1 shot of beer every minute for 100 minutes. Not as easy as it sounds.
You have to have food before hand, burger, or a couple of hot dogs and at least 2-3 beers as well.
No water allowed, you can go up to pee but if you don't make it back within a minute you have to drink an extra penalty short, or alternatively you can drink two shots and skip the next round.
You're also allowed to throw up but for every shot you miss while puking you have to take an extra shot, so if you're gone for 3 minutes, you have to have 6 shots.
I know it seems easy, but you have to keep in mind, it's basically 10 beers in an hour and a half and even if you don't get drunk the bloat is ridiculously hard to suppress.
7 boys sat around the table last night, two walked away with their heads held high... and soon after passed out on the grass. I had drank about 4 ciders and 2 hot dogs before hand, I made it to 67 shots puked and threw in the towel.
sounds like an extended version of my average pre-game
I think you missed the part where i play rugby  The social after the game is half the sport.
On January 29 2011 10:06 AoN.DimSum wrote:
pretty much LOL
-Stronger people are harder to kill than weak people, and in general more useful
Best quote evar
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On January 29 2011 18:04 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 17:44 Energies wrote:
Decaf, I have a game for you mate.
It's call the 100 shots in 100 minutes challenge.
1 shot of beer every minute for 100 minutes. Not as easy as it sounds.
You have to have food before hand, burger, or a couple of hot dogs and at least 2-3 beers as well.
No water allowed, you can go up to pee but if you don't make it back within a minute you have to drink an extra penalty short, or alternatively you can drink two shots and skip the next round.
You're also allowed to throw up but for every shot you miss while puking you have to take an extra shot, so if you're gone for 3 minutes, you have to have 6 shots.
I know it seems easy, but you have to keep in mind, it's basically 10 beers in an hour and a half and even if you don't get drunk the bloat is ridiculously hard to suppress.
7 boys sat around the table last night, two walked away with their heads held high... and soon after passed out on the grass. I had drank about 4 ciders and 2 hot dogs before hand, I made it to 67 shots puked and threw in the towel.
sounds like an extended version of my average pre-game I think you missed the part where i play rugby The social after the game is half the sport. -Stronger people are harder to kill than weak people, and in general more useful Best quote evar
Sounds like a basic power hour, only for 100 minutes rather than 60. Around here, we call that "Centurion." The game isn't difficult for the amount of alcohol you have to drink (it's ~10 beers in almost two hours) but rather for the manner in which you have to drink them. The feeling in your stomach from drink, break, drink, break, drink.... etc. for 100 minutes/100 shots is terrible. Absolutely terrible. I have played before, but it's not a game that I would play before a party, and it's not a game that I would play when there are people around that I plan on talking to afterwards. IMO the best way to drink beers is to straight chug them (shotguns. Mad shotguns bro) and then not worry about it. If I'm not going to be chugging a drink, it's probably a single glass of bourbon, and i'm probably chilling alone, or with my room mate, or one friend in my apartment at around midnight, having just finished up my homework for the night. Yeah Biochemistry. I've got a drinking problem, don't be judging me.
That said, we just had our "introduction" surprise party for the new cast of the show I'm building sets for here on campus, and now my body is refusing to get to sleep. Adrenaline and alcohol, fuck my life. In addition to that, I'm coming down with a cold for the first time since having been on Vit D (~7 months now. I've had a sinus infection as well in this time, but that was severe, chronic, took three rounds of prescription meds to cure (and I still sneeze blood regularly), and was a carry over from july, before I was on the vit D) and I am supposed to hit the gym tomorrow. I may be postponing that until sunday (sun/tue/thur rather than tue/thur/sat) and sleeping away all of tomorrow - we'll see how it goes when I wake up.
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So i woke up this morning and went to check my weight (since i was just going off what i weighed with all my clothes on x.x) and i weigh 192-193. So I guess i should be changing my goal from losing weight to just losing fat + gaining some muscle. Would I still be good in wanting to have a calorie deficit, or should i focus on just eating the right stuff + working out? I'm starting today on changing my diet to more meat/veggies/fruit, but probably won't start really working out at the gym until the SS book gets here so i can make sure im doing the work outs correctly, so sometime in the middle of the week.
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On January 30 2011 02:56 Alventenie wrote:
So i woke up this morning and went to check my weight (since i was just going off what i weighed with all my clothes on x.x) and i weigh 192-193. So I guess i should be changing my goal from losing weight to just losing fat + gaining some muscle. Would I still be good in wanting to have a calorie deficit, or should i focus on just eating the right stuff + working out? I'm starting today on changing my diet to more meat/veggies/fruit, but probably won't start really working out at the gym until the SS book gets here so i can make sure im doing the work outs correctly, so sometime in the middle of the week.
Just focus on eating the right stuff. Clean food + intense workouts mean that you could probably overeat (by calorie standards, but with clean food) and still lose fat and gain muscle.
edit: this is assuming your current diet is that of an average person with a ton of processed foods.
Also, you can read the SS pdf on the first post while you wait for the physical copy, or the wiki page for the 3 SS workout variations.
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Just focus on eating right... eliminate all processed foods. Get enough meats, good fats, vege/fruit and you'll be good especially with the lifting
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im 67kg now O_O. I had the quickest workout yet. Just back squated up to 150 for a single. Tried 160 but I had help getting it up.
I felt pretty good this week, probably because I only did pulls and squats. Squating is so ezpz when its all you do. I should just squat on my rest days haha. Also, I did a lot of core work too. Anyone have suggestions for cool/hard core and bodyweight exercises for after my workouts?
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I think im gonna clean up my diet now. I been eating a lot of donuts and cookies lately. My cafeteria sucks but im just going to eat chicken,eggs, and veggies, and fruit from now on. There is also olive oil and nuts. I used to be really healthy last year. Now I crave junkfood and I think its affecting my performance in everything...
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i hate you dimsum. just lolzing around and squatting 2.5bw
too strong  i need to add 80kg to my total to make the open T_T
btw, almost killed a smaller verision of Paulee D/the situation tonight. went to some party that was guido as fuck but i was only rolling with the smallest kid on my team (5'9 150) and 4 girls. We're trying to get my friends car out of the snow and these guido assholes just keep yelling at her that she can't drive and shit so i say "all of 5'6 of you needs to shut the fuck up"...and thats how i got bitch slapped by a midget guido. Of course this kid happeneed to be rolling 30 deep with testosterone filled douche bags so i just walked off to the side and cooled off instead of killing some punk and then getting gang beat and screwing over my friends T_T
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Today I begin my own journey in to all of this. Been overweight for a while now for no good reason, and also some say that exercise aids in depression (if anything, self esteem.) People say that I don't look too overweight, but I'm shaped like a football lineman without the muscle.
Ordered a ~$600 elliptical to get started, because running right now becomes painful after only ~3 minutes. Here's hoping that it doesn't turn in to a clothes hanger. Focusing on cardio and healthy eating just to drop a lot of weight- I may branch in to other things if things go well.
Age: 22 || Height: 5'11" || Weight: 280 lbs
Starting Date: 01/30/11 || Goal Date: 01/01/12 or earlier
Weight goals -- Shed off a lot of fat. Not too concerned about muscle yet.
Training goals -- Exercise at least an hour a day, maybe two as I progress.
Nutrition goals -- None specific, but I'm hoping to cut cokes and eat less sweets, as well as smaller, more balanced portions. I'll probably start small to shrink my stomach as opposed to starve myself.
Misc goals -- Be happier and healthier.
Maybe before/after pictures later, if I become a success story.
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start lifting weights nokarot! best way to turn fat into muscle 
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Wow I am almost in the exact same situation as above poster Nokarot.
Slightly different machinery though - I'm going to try out some exercise bands and a bike, see how that goes.
Age: 23 || Height: 182cm (6'0") || Weight: 110kg (242 lbs (I think that's the correct conversion))
Starting Date: 01/02/11 || Goal Date: 01/01/12 or earlier
Weight goals -- Need to pull a lot off my gut, and get my lower abdominal region stronger - perhaps begin a little toning on the arms when I get to that part. Probably going to look at something like 95kg(209lbs) after 6 months. Then maybe 85kg(187lbs) by next year, depending on any muscle gain.
Training goals -- Do at least a 30 minute ride every day, and use the bands at least for 10-15 minute a day starting off.
Nutrition goals -- I've already cut coke/soft drinks, looking to cut down on cheese, and also actually have some more hardy meals instead of simple junk that I eat. I don't eat badly in terms of "junk food every night" - but I don't eat healthy food every night either.
I'm having specific issues with my lower abdomen and groin region - is there some specific exercise I can do there? I have had a hernia in my groinal/abdominal wall previously (just weak muscle wall, nothing too serious) which was operated on about 3 years ago - I still get a feeling I'm quite weak in the area. Any suggestions appreciated.
Edit: Holy CRAP that F.Lux thing is awesome, my eyes feel a lot less strain already!
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On January 30 2011 20:00 Zafrumi wrote:start lifting weights nokarot! best way to turn fat into muscle
Yes. While I understand it can be difficult to hit the gym as an overweight guy, it's the best way to go about it as repeated many times in this thread. Furthermore, people usually respect instead of ridicule fat people for doing something about their problem.
Good luck, Nokarot.
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On January 30 2011 17:19 decafchicken wrote:i hate you dimsum. just lolzing around and squatting 2.5bw too strong i need to add 80kg to my total to make the open T_T btw, almost killed a smaller verision of Paulee D/the situation tonight. went to some party that was guido as fuck but i was only rolling with the smallest kid on my team (5'9 150) and 4 girls. We're trying to get my friends car out of the snow and these guido assholes just keep yelling at her that she can't drive and shit so i say "all of 5'6 of you needs to shut the fuck up"...and thats how i got bitch slapped by a midget guido. Of course this kid happeneed to be rolling 30 deep with testosterone filled douche bags so i just walked off to the side and cooled off instead of killing some punk and then getting gang beat and screwing over my friends T_T
Be happy knowing your jaw probably broke his wrist.
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I'm less concerned about turning fat in to muscle and more concerned about burning fat. Maybe when I get down to 240-250 I'll start lifting, too, but at 280 I just need to lose pure fat I think.
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^ lifting will help you accomplish that. lifting helps you build muscle, which in turn helps you burn more calories overall.
but of course the best program won't do much for you if you don't have your nutrition in check.
so as everyone else says, focus on that first.
oh and get under the bar and lift some weights!
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On January 30 2011 20:32 Nokarot wrote:
I'm less concerned about turning fat in to muscle and more concerned about burning fat. Maybe when I get down to 240-250 I'll start lifting, too, but at 280 I just need to lose pure fat I think.
that doesnt make much sense to me tbh, but its your decision of course you will lose lots of fat by eating less and healthier, but lifting weights will speed up the process and at the same time give your body a nice form/shape. you dont have to worry about getting all buff that takes quite some time and dedication. you will just look better with some muscle on your bones
and dont forget:
On January 29 2011 18:04 decafchicken wrote:
-Stronger people are harder to kill than weak people, and in general more useful
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On January 30 2011 20:32 Nokarot wrote:
I'm less concerned about turning fat in to muscle and more concerned about burning fat. Maybe when I get down to 240-250 I'll start lifting, too, but at 280 I just need to lose pure fat I think.
As someone who has lost a lot of weight over the past couple years and is now lifting, I highly recommend starting some weightlifting now.
My story (which I've probably told on this forum before, but I think in the first body building thread) is something like this:
I started university at about 160 pounds. I gained over 50 pounds in my first year, dropping about 40-45 of that in my first summer. I couldn't believe I could gain so much weight so fast. My school's cafeteria had a lot of great food though, and since it was all you could eat, I would honestly go through 5+ egg salad sandwiches a day. With butter and such on it. So many calories! 
Anyway, due to stress and I guess, perhaps, emotional instability in my final two years of school, I got up to about 260 pounds. My portion sizes were awful, my diet had a lot of good foods in it; however it had a lot of bad foods too. Basically I just ate and drank too much. My self-esteem was pretty low at the end.
After I graduated, I started to ride my bike a lot again. I lost about 40 pounds in ~5 months just bike riding for 80-90 minutes (outside, it was summer...) every day, and doing my best to eat better. I then couldn't really bike ride for a while due to winter, but I ate better and didn't gain any more weight. When the weather warmed up a bit, I started riding my bike a lot, and also doing push ups (I thought that "100 push up program" was pretty cool) every other day.
In the middle of that summer I finally decided to get a gym membership. Of course, I didn't really know what I was doing, and I felt good just... being there, pretty much. At first I was still focused on cardio, but still lifting weights, but not in any effective program, just kind of doing my own thing (despite knowing of the existence of SS, etc.). Combined with my continuous bike riding and eating "better", I eventually dropped to about 180 pounds in just under a year after being at ~260.
Anyway, that winter I became stressed out again (won't go into it) and also had no more gym membership access. Around March I finally got to the gym again but it felt like I was starting all over again. (I had gained about 15-20 pounds, back up to 200.) And at first, my sleeping pattern was really bad so I had no energy when I was at the gym, so was kind of timid about lifting weights. It took another two months to fix my sleeping pattern and get into a more productive gym routine, but still another... 4? months to really put my best effort into the gym, being fit, eating right, lifting right, etc. Now, I've been doing so since around, last July or August, and I'm seeing excellent results.
Anyway I kind of rambled on, sorry. Point of my post is to say that it took me too long to get into the gym to start lifting weights. When I first started I could barely bench 95 pounds; I couldn't do a squat at all... I couldn't do anything, it seemed! But no one judges you in the gym as long as you're being respectful of others. When you start lifting weights and really get into it, you really feel... just, so good. You will notice your athleticism in so many ways and it will be so beneficial to you.
But the point is (for me, at least) it takes time to build up skills, certain muscles. It takes time for your body adjust. It takes time for your mind to adjust to things. It won't happen in a month after you start lifting weights. I was going to the gym off and on for just over a year before I really started to take it seriously, but that year was also an invaluable learning process to me. So my advice is to definitely just start lifting weights now. Start light, for sure. But do it!!! I can't think of any real reason to wait for a certain time to start lifting.
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great story solesteeler and keep at it!
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I've been dieting for a month now, i'm down around 6-7 pounds. 226 and counting. IMHO, too much in such a short period, but since my strength is the same and I'm not losing any muscles I'll keep at it. Also, haven't had any alcohol in 30 days, fuck yeah.
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On January 30 2011 21:11 Zafrumi wrote:great story solesteeler and keep at it!
Thanks. And oh, I have been keeping at it... The gym is so fun after it becomes a routine!
By the way, I think it's somewhat amusing that currently I haven't weighed myself in about 8 months. I know I've been losing body fat consistently since then, though, looking at pictures of myself. Even just yesterday, I hadn't talked to anyone on Skype in over a month, and looking at myself in my own webcam I could tell I've lost weight. When you see yourself in the mirror every day, it's hard to tell if progress has been made! But I hadn't seen myself specifically in my webcam, so I saw a difference. Kind of funny how that works.
Also, here's a nice little story...
When I really started taking the gym as serious as I could in the middle of last summer (July-August), I noticed such massive results, which really motivated me. I increased my weight lifted in all categories and I was doing my best to step up my cardio at each session. Around the start of September I saw pictures of myself then and from late June and couldn't believe the difference. And then my office had a beach picnic, where all the guys played sports on the beach all day. I couldn't believe how... easy! it was for me to run around all day, throw balls around etc. and not get tired. Not to mention how far and accurate I could throw a football or baseball. Scoring the winning goals in soccer games, etc. My confidence was so incredibly high around then.
Later that night we went to a bar and without even trying, girls just seemed to flock to me, due to some... confidence I didn't even know I was exhibiting! Not to brag! I had never even had a girlfriend in my life... Hell, I didn't even know what to do with these girls that kept coming up to me... It felt so new to me. (At that time, I hadn't really been out to a bar in a few months). Only two days later after that awesome day at the beach, I met my wonderful girlfriend! My first real relationship began at 25 years old! And I'm not really ashamed to say that.
In short, sometimes I am a bit shocked looking a pictures of myself from 2008 and thinking how sad and lonely and depressed I was back then, and thinking about how much I enjoy my life now. :/ And I owe so much of my confidence to working out, trying to maintain a healthy lifestyle. My stress levels are lower, I sleep better, I feel that I think clearer, and even things like I am more articulate - all due to my increased confidence. I am happy. Life is good.
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should post that story in the OP under the category "motivation" !!
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