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durbarak
Austria54 Posts
Delay Server for tournament broadcasts Didn't know JTV could do that and i'm glad they already do. IMO it is a feature of the utmost importance. Just yesterday, in a match between insolence and nerchio, allegations of stream abuse were made. True or false aside, it always hurts everybody. The players, who may be innocent or cheated; the caster, who has to evaluate the accusation, and the audience, which tuned in for SC2 action and not a soap opera. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On February 19 2011 01:35 djWHEAT wrote: This is what worries me about JTV: http://bit.ly/ecAX73 I've expressed this concern to JTV many times (at least 3-4 times in the past 2 years), but typically I always get the same answer, "We provide tools to anyone who wants them to stop copyright violations at anytime." Well how does that make any sense? Even ZUFFA said they had to HIRE a 3rd party to go through and manually remove all the content from JTV. In what crazy world does it make sense that the content creators have to pay to police every site on the internet in order to curb this type of piracy? e. . if you think that's crazy, you should be lobbying the government and attacking the DMCA, not justin.tv. justin.tv are protected by the DMCA, so suing them is futile. similar verdicts have been held elsewhere, see google vs viacom. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On February 19 2011 02:37 Wihl wrote: I'd love to be able to say that this was great news but justin.tv has buffering issues for me =/ 100/100 mbit, Sweden. Hopefully it gets resolved. Yeah same for me, it seems to be a common issue for us Europeans. I guess it doesn't matter much for Day9 since his live audience is mainly Americans but it sucks that every caster/tournament and their dogs are switching. Boooooo! edit: or go Zuffa I guess  If J.tv is indeed broke it's unlikely they will invest in upping the servers or whatnot in Europe. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On February 19 2011 02:48 CTStalker wrote: if you think that's crazy, you should be lobbying the government and attacking the DMCA, not justin.tv. justin.tv are protected by the DMCA, so suing them is futile. similar verdicts have been held elsewhere, see google vs viacom. For now. It's widely known that the DMCA is outdated. But since our country tends to keep laws of old even as we progress as a nation... it probably won't ever make a difference (or change). I realize that JTV has no burden to police this because they can claim protection by the DMCA, but that doesn't necessarily make it right or mean there isn't a better way to help the cause. I know it's more an issue with the DMCA, but if I was a business owner in that realm, I would at least make my own efforts to ensure and give confidence to content creators that we make specific efforts to curb piracy. Additionally, although the DMCA can be used as a "shield" in cases like this, other sites have had much success with self-policing communities, content identifying technology, and other methods. I do believe JTV is making some efforts on their own, but there's no denying that there's still a crazy amount of pirated content on the site. | ||
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Msqrd
Canada55 Posts
My feature requests are around mobile viewing. In theory I can watch 360p on my Android phone using the browser interface since it sports Flash. But it's so llaggy I can't actually click to select a lower bitrate. Please add an HTML bitrate selector. A logged in preference to default to a particular bitrate would be nice too. Alternatively please hurry your Android app. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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niupong
United States7 Posts
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chrisohno
United States42 Posts
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Poonchow
United States56 Posts
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Ascend
United States120 Posts
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TheMexican
Germany96 Posts
sry but that news just sucks for europeans like me :/ | ||
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shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On February 19 2011 02:57 Longshank wrote: Yeah same for me, it seems to be a common issue for us Europeans. I guess it doesn't matter much for Day9 since his live audience is mainly Americans but it sucks that every caster/tournament and their dogs are switching. Boooooo! edit: or go Zuffa I guess If J.tv is indeed broke it's unlikely they will invest in upping the servers or whatnot in Europe.Idd watching JTV for me in ireland is painfull, takes 20seconds+ just for te player to connect and start a stream then it periodically lags  , I hope they sort their european routing if they intend to be the primary streamer of sc2 | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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ginnipig
Canada84 Posts
On February 19 2011 00:34 Tppz! wrote: I'm happy for Day[9], but still Justin.tv is just terrible for europeans (or even non-americans?). Dunno why but it often lags or just takes 100 years to load a vod. So my question: Will Day[9] upload youtube or ustream or blip too? i hope so. Many Europeans are worried cause of this.. It's still going to Blip, but i'm using Itunes to DL the podcast uploads every night, so in the morning you have a fresh new Day9 to watch | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
Hopefully I'll finally be able to watch some Dailies live again! | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
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Char711
United States862 Posts
On February 19 2011 03:02 djWHEAT wrote: For now. It's widely known that the DMCA is outdated. But since our country tends to keep laws of old even as we progress as a nation... it probably won't ever make a difference (or change). I realize that JTV has no burden to police this because they can claim protection by the DMCA, but that doesn't necessarily make it right or mean there isn't a better way to help the cause. I know it's more an issue with the DMCA, but if I was a business owner in that realm, I would at least make my own efforts to ensure and give confidence to content creators that we make specific efforts to curb piracy. Additionally, although the DMCA can be used as a "shield" in cases like this, other sites have had much success with self-policing communities, content identifying technology, and other methods. I do believe JTV is making some efforts on their own, but there's no denying that there's still a crazy amount of pirated content on the site. I've seen things like re-streamed GSL matches on Ustream and elsewhere, so I don't think JTV is the only one susceptible to this. People get pirated stuff on all of the streaming sites, so I think we're just better off going with the one that seems to be giving us the most support and features, which, clearly, is JTV. Aside from that, while I strongly support the intellectual property rights of fine content producers like you, WHEAT, I don't think that many shows right now face a true danger from it. Are you losing money if someone re-streams Weapon of Choice on JTV? Does Ustream even pay out like JTV does? I'm also quite sure that the lion's share of your audience is going to be watching the official stream. There's also the fact that you only really get the benefits of the stream when watching the actual channel because of things like audience participation (e.g., the Day[9] Dailies). If you're not getting that, you might as well just watch the archive (which, I must note, is now way better for the Dailies ever since Blip started to step up their game and actually made their video player fully functional). | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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JustintvGaming
United States14 Posts
We are currently focusing on creating the best possible chat platform, so please give us all your ideas and suggestions. We are reading this thread closely! | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
On February 19 2011 06:04 JustintvGaming wrote: For those wondering, we have grown our datacenters and connections to Europe significantly over the last few months. Justin.tv lag in EU should be a thing of the past! Additionally, questions remain about country / viewer limits through JTV. I am happy to let you know that all user restrictions have been eliminated for gaming streams! We are currently focusing on creating the best possible chat platform, so please give us all your ideas and suggestions. We are reading this thread closely! How about an easy-to-use implementation of polls? To be frank, I have no idea if JTV has this already or not, but, with things like the Day[9] Daily, I know that an easy-to-use polling system could definitely help streamers make the most out of their streams. You can have interaction a la Day[9] or have tournament casters ask people who they think is going to win a game as it starts, etc. etc. | ||
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