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Gonna stream dark souls 2 tonight at about 9:30 pst if anyone wants to come join me :-*
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On August 15 2015 06:32 Sunaj wrote:
What are you guys playing on? Also trying to get Magic Origins to work on steam just flat out isn't working :/ Literally won't launch.
Yeah some people are having the issue you're describing sunaj. It sucks they haven't fixed it yet.
We're playing on xmage. Google and download it, it's fairly self explanatory but like I said I'll be on later for those interested.
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I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking.
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It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross.
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On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross.
Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do.
I'm sure it's one of the two.
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On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two.
I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense.
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On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense.
You can have your own opinions but that doesn't mean you don't come off as a condescending prick.
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On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense.
It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies.
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I miss PX for no related reason.
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I do believe in reincarnation
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On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies.
I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care."
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On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care."
No way? Have you ever tried?
Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves."
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On August 15 2015 05:59 Requizen wrote:
Is there seriously no way for TL to create a LiquidHub so I can have all of my subscribed threads across multiple sites in one tab?
seen it requested so many times before. poor r1ch, just finished UI overhall on OGTL and we already have more requests. This was mentioned mostly when liquiddota came out tho. and i would apprecaite it greatly too.
LOL Sonnington you stuck up prick, whats background gave you such an opinion on keeping ones skin undrawn on?
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On August 15 2015 08:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care." No way? Have you ever tried? Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves."
The most accurate way I feel about it is lacking respect. I actually feel kinda bad for them for making bad decisions. I don't appreciate you projecting bigoted emotions onto me. I'm more or less a libertarian. I believe anyone should be able to do whatever they want to themselves if it makes them happy. That doesn't mean I have to respect their decision in any way.
Out of curiosity, is it ok that I don't respect other people's life choices? Is it ok if I feel like their making bad decisions and tell people that these are bad life choices? I feel like you should take this opportunity to take your own advice on tolerance. If you have an opposing viewpoint, which you keep alluding to, I encourage you to come forth with it.
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Had to double check to make sure he wasn't a euro.
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Sonnington, dude, some people look at tattoos as a form of extremely personal self expression. Regardless of any "doors that may have been closed" by their decision (which is a debatable subject in and of itself given the shifting societal attitude toward body art), they choose to put art on their bodies because it means something to them.
I don't have a tattoo and I doubt I'll ever get one, but it has nothing to do with some sort of misguided belief that it's a bad decision.
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On August 15 2015 09:06 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care." No way? Have you ever tried? Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves." The most accurate way I feel about it is lacking respect. I actually feel kinda bad for them for making bad decisions. I don't appreciate you projecting bigoted emotions onto me. I'm more or less a libertarian. I believe anyone should be able to do whatever they want to themselves if it makes them happy. That doesn't mean I have to respect their decision in any way. Out of curiosity, is it ok that I don't respect other people's life choices? Is it ok if I feel like their making bad decisions and tell people that these are bad life choices? I feel like you should take this opportunity to take your own advice on tolerance. If you have an opposing viewpoint, which you keep alluding to, I encourage you to come forth with it.
No, it is not okay for you to not respect other peoples life choices.
That makes you an asshole.
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On August 15 2015 09:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Had to double check to make sure he wasn't a euro.
Huh? How is hating tattoos euro, from where I sit bodymods are very common and acceptable here.
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On August 15 2015 09:36 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 09:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Had to double check to make sure he wasn't a euro. Huh? How is hating tattoos euro, from where I sit bodymods are very common and acceptable here.
I meant more his attitude about the conversation.
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On August 15 2015 09:25 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 09:06 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care." No way? Have you ever tried? Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves." The most accurate way I feel about it is lacking respect. I actually feel kinda bad for them for making bad decisions. I don't appreciate you projecting bigoted emotions onto me. I'm more or less a libertarian. I believe anyone should be able to do whatever they want to themselves if it makes them happy. That doesn't mean I have to respect their decision in any way. Out of curiosity, is it ok that I don't respect other people's life choices? Is it ok if I feel like their making bad decisions and tell people that these are bad life choices? I feel like you should take this opportunity to take your own advice on tolerance. If you have an opposing viewpoint, which you keep alluding to, I encourage you to come forth with it. No, it is not okay for you to not respect other peoples life choices. That makes you an asshole.
Really? So you support meth addicts remaining meth addicts and murders murdering? Because that's the logical conclusion to your broad statement.
I also find the lack of self awareness striking. I'm making a life decision to take a stance that I don't respect the act of getting a neck tattoos. Yet, as you tell me, "it is not okay for you to not respect other peoples life choices." That's the definition of doublethink to me.
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On August 15 2015 09:06 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 08:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care." No way? Have you ever tried? Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves." The most accurate way I feel about it is lacking respect. I actually feel kinda bad for them for making bad decisions. I don't appreciate you projecting bigoted emotions onto me. I'm more or less a libertarian. I believe anyone should be able to do whatever they want to themselves if it makes them happy. That doesn't mean I have to respect their decision in any way. Out of curiosity, is it ok that I don't respect other people's life choices? Is it ok if I feel like their making bad decisions and tell people that these are bad life choices? I feel like you should take this opportunity to take your own advice on tolerance. If you have an opposing viewpoint, which you keep alluding to, I encourage you to come forth with it.
I'm not sure what you mean by projecting or bigoted in this scenario. I'm only trying to express how I felt about your statements. If I didn't make that clear, I apologize.
I do think that respect is essential. When I see someone being disrespectful, I notice that it tends to manifest in a belittling of a person's choices, which to me is tantamount to belittling that person themselves. I'm attempting to respect your dislike of tattoos, but present an alternate thought process that's not as disrespectful toward those who have them.
By talking about "their bad decisions" and "bad life choices," you're implying you understand entirely what their life is like and what events led them to what they've done with it. You don't. It's not possible. So instead you're projecting your personal feelings onto them, which leads to you disrespecting and insulting them. I think this is a bad thing. It's the difference between "I hate tattoos" and "I think people who have tattoos are stupid," and that's an important distinction to make. I don't think anyone on this forum would have a problem with the former.
On August 15 2015 09:37 Sonnington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 09:25 Ketara wrote:On August 15 2015 09:06 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:38 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:17 Sonnington wrote:On August 15 2015 08:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:On August 15 2015 08:10 Sonnington wrote:I was talking to this girl today with tattoos, one on her neck, and this is what I started thinking. + Show Spoiler +It's like they take this childish desire to draw on themselves and bring it to the next level making it permanent. It's like you have to have no forethought for your future or no ambition for your life if you get a tattoo on your neck. Besides that, it's gross. Or they have different priorities and opinions than you do. I'm sure it's one of the two. I'm sure they do. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive in any sense. It certainly doesn't appear like you're acknowledging that concept in the slightest. It reads as if there couldn't be any other conclusion than the one you've come to, conclusions that might be informed by the perspective of the people who made the choices about what to do with their bodies. I acknowledge it, they definitely have different priorities and opinions than I do in order to get the neck tattoo. I assure you. There's no way I can look at someone with a neck tattoo without thinking, "You're closing off several doors in your life and you either don't know it or don't care." No way? Have you ever tried? Regardless, maybe you take this opportunity to feel good that this person is comfortable with a choice that seems to disturb or frighten you in some way. It's good that people can be different. It's good that people don't feel the need to pick the same life doors as you might. That might be a more positive experience than worrying about how you feel they've "hurt themselves." The most accurate way I feel about it is lacking respect. I actually feel kinda bad for them for making bad decisions. I don't appreciate you projecting bigoted emotions onto me. I'm more or less a libertarian. I believe anyone should be able to do whatever they want to themselves if it makes them happy. That doesn't mean I have to respect their decision in any way. Out of curiosity, is it ok that I don't respect other people's life choices? Is it ok if I feel like their making bad decisions and tell people that these are bad life choices? I feel like you should take this opportunity to take your own advice on tolerance. If you have an opposing viewpoint, which you keep alluding to, I encourage you to come forth with it. No, it is not okay for you to not respect other peoples life choices. That makes you an asshole. Really? So you support meth addicts remaining meth addicts and murders murdering? Because that's the logical conclusion to your broad statement. I also find the lack of self awareness striking. I'm making a life decision to take a stance that I don't respect the act of getting a neck tattoos. Yet, as you tell me, "it is not okay for you to not respect other peoples life choices." That's the definition of doublethink to me.
The issue I see with this is the idea that addiction is a life choice. It's not. It's an illness. Thus it's doesn't logically follow that Ketara is supporting harmful drug consumption or murder.
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