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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
July 31 2015 21:49 GMT
#5841
Ok so I finally got a workable controller and I'm starting Dark souls prepare to die edition tonight. As I said I played through Bloodborne more than once so I'm familiar with how it all works. Just curious from those that have played DS as well, if I could get some recommendations on builds. I was very fond of "skill" focused builds in bloodborne (think skill is called dexterity in DS), and I used the blades of attack and chikage as my main weapons (chikage is a katana and BOA are small daggers). Not a fan of easy modeing and going tank/strength builds, especially since I prefer to style on my enemies instead of brute forcing. I'm guessing I should start out as a hunter? or what? Also what's up with the gifts I can select in character creation. Some recommendations on what to do there would be appreciated
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 22:00:58
July 31 2015 21:58 GMT
#5842
Hunter is ass, Wanderer or Pyromancer are the most open ended, Wanderer is better if you want to go for a more dex oriented build and incorporate either miracles or pyromancy into it as well.

Gifts just give you something to start with, the Divine Blessing is bullshit, if you take that I'm not helping you at all regardless of how much you beg and plead. Master key just opens any lock that would require a certain key, with a few exceptions, the Old Witches ring gives you some extra dialog, the twin souls or whatever is just a twin humanity, same with the humanity, my friends normally end up taking the pendant or the ring, just because it doesn't give you an advantage during the game.
Steam: rook492
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 31 2015 22:05 GMT
#5843
On August 01 2015 06:47 Cixah wrote:
Friend of mine using my deck at the PT is 4-0. That means he got lucky as fuck at draft because he is super awful at it. Lets see if URThopters can do it boys


What deck might I ask? Is URThopters a thing, or are you still talking Limited?
Forever Young
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 31 2015 22:20 GMT
#5844
On August 01 2015 03:59 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:58 Sufficiency wrote:
We hate it because screen real estate was never that huge of an issue. The changes Riot did was too dramatic for fixing a minor problem within the game. It also introduced new problems.

Furthermore, UI change should be for preseason.

what problems?

My roommate hates it because he doesn't know the new symbols for stats despite them being easy to learn if you just go into a custom game for 5 minutes.
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
July 31 2015 22:22 GMT
#5845
I might get to go to the International this year, so if there is anything that you want from the secret shop be sure to tell me before then.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 22:48:12
July 31 2015 22:41 GMT
#5846
On August 01 2015 07:22 Marmy wrote:
I might get to go to the International this year, so if there is anything that you want from the secret shop be sure to tell me before then.

Bahahahahaha

Marmy please

On August 01 2015 06:49 TheEmulator wrote:
Ok so I finally got a workable controller and I'm starting Dark souls prepare to die edition tonight. As I said I played through Bloodborne more than once so I'm familiar with how it all works. Just curious from those that have played DS as well, if I could get some recommendations on builds. I was very fond of "skill" focused builds in bloodborne (think skill is called dexterity in DS), and I used the blades of attack and chikage as my main weapons (chikage is a katana and BOA are small daggers). Not a fan of easy modeing and going tank/strength builds, especially since I prefer to style on my enemies instead of brute forcing. I'm guessing I should start out as a hunter? or what? Also what's up with the gifts I can select in character creation. Some recommendations on what to do there would be appreciated

Hi Emu! It's good to hear you're not WaveofPussyMagic or anything. Dexterity is what you're gonna be wanting, yup. I would recommend Wanderer or Thief. I would say the weapon that uses Dex/is available early in the game is most likely the Uchigatana; it's a katana. Hard to use, but very powerful. It's hard to get it unless you already know how, but if you do know it just takes a couple seconds, and its pretty early on in the game. I'll put it in spoilers so you can read if you want, but it's totally possible to get it on your own as well. Be warned that Bloodborne is a different beast from Dark Souls; BB is much faster, and a large part of the skill in Dark Souls comes from patience.

+ Show Spoiler +
In the Undead Burgh area there's a merchant that sells things; this is somewhat early on in the burgh area, and the path down to it is blocked by two spearmen with big shields. You have to kill the merchant to get his Uchigatana. Don't worry, he doesn't sell anything remotely valuable. You won't miss him once he's gone. It's still your choice, though.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 31 2015 22:42 GMT
#5847
I'll take one dota please.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 23:21:03
July 31 2015 23:15 GMT
#5848
Thanks Crusnik and Ghandi. Think I'll try out wanderer then. Gonna have another look at the early game differences and decide.

Yeah Ghandi I was thinking of the uchigatana. I checked if there were any Katana's in DS because the Chikage was my favourite in BB. Just wasn't sure if it was garbage or not (the chikage is actually kind of garbage in PVE but straight up dirty in PVP, lol), but you recommended it without me asking so it must be alright enough. I mean if it sucks I just need to try harder to beat the game, and I'm ok with that. I just fucking love katanas

I'll check out the spoiler. I don't mind being spoiled on how to achieve certain weapons and stuff. I just won't read tips on how to defeat bosses, and if I get stuck or lost I usually try to figure it out myself since that's the fun of these games.

Also yeah I'm slightly aware of the mechanical differences between BB and DS just from watching some of you guys stream the game. I think you parry with shields/blocking instead of the gun, and in general the movement seems slower. Although I'd guess stuff like backstab/visceral attacks are similar.

edit: I could always be Destiny and take the worst starting class and also not level up vitality at all for maximum frustration (actually no thx).
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23448 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 23:20:43
July 31 2015 23:20 GMT
#5849
On August 01 2015 00:27 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 17:20 Fusilero wrote:
On July 31 2015 13:09 JonGalt wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/djfunkflexapp/meek-mill-feat-quentin-miller-wanna-know-prod-by-jahlil-beats-swizz-beatz
^ Weak Mill's diss track.

Drake's response?
https://instagram.com/p/5yONhDDQEG/?taken-by=champagnepapi
LOL

ps I kinda miss this thread. I should post more often.

Meek Mill constantly talking about the money he makes while being way way less wealthy than Drake is just painful to listen to. I didn't know it was humanly possible to get beat down so hard in beef he started as well.


Yeah this is also really astounding. He has a line about a platinum watch which is stupid because:
1) Drake is worth literally 25 times as much (75mil to 3 mil)
2) Drake's line back in 2013 - "Fuck going platinum I looked at my wrist and it's already platinum
3) None of Meek Mill's records have gone platinum, in fact his Dreams and Nightmares from 2012 just RECENTLY went gold LOL

It's too bad. I like Meek Mill too, but he is just losing all over the place. It's not even a contest.

This is HUGE for Drake though. As if he needed the help to be more popular, but his OVO Fest (6th one, I wish I could go ) is this weekend. Anybody near Toronto should look into it. It's not only rap, there should be some other musical guests and things to do I think, but I don't know too much about it.

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:53 Scip wrote:
Wow, I just checked out the new league UI (haven't played in a while)
damn it's good
takes up so little space yet gets all the info in


Yeah I haven't used it, but what I have seen in screenshots I really really like it. Seems super clean.

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 21:30 Alaric wrote:
On July 31 2015 16:46 Gahlo wrote:
On July 31 2015 13:09 JonGalt wrote:
On July 31 2015 08:35 Alaric wrote:
It seems so. Also Balls being better at the time than he is now.

Michael, that part made me smile:
Then Nothing Was The Same. Then Somethings Never Change.

Not a fan of rap in general though. I appreciated the post but I didn't like the Meek Mill track (I'm tired and brain in a bit of a haze so I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics though, apart from the fact they rhymed; but his voice was grating); doesn't invalidate your interest in the topic and your willingness to explain things, obviously!


How the fuck do you remember my name?


This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill...

And 70% being a data irrelevant enough that my memory will make a special place for it.


Aww.... Thanks Alaric!


yeah, say what you want about drake, but you try to knock him down he always comes back up
6 minutes later anyway
aka Teutonica
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 23:24:42
July 31 2015 23:23 GMT
#5850
On August 01 2015 08:15 TheEmulator wrote:
Thanks Crusnik and Ghandi. Think I'll try out wanderer then. Gonna have another look at the early game differences and decide.

Yeah Ghandi I was thinking of the uchigatana. I checked if there were any Katana's in DS because the Chikage was my favourite in BB. Just wasn't sure if it was garbage or not (the chikage is actually kind of garbage in PVE but straight up dirty in PVP, lol), but you recommended it without me asking so it must be alright enough. I mean if it sucks I just need to try harder to beat the game, and I'm ok with that. I just fucking love katanas

I'll check out the spoiler. I don't mind being spoiled on how to achieve certain weapons and stuff. I just won't read tips on how to defeat bosses, and if I get stuck or lost I usually try to figure it out myself since that's the fun of these games.

Also yeah I'm slightly aware of the mechanical differences between BB and DS just from watching some of you guys stream the game. I think you parry with shields/blocking instead of the gun, and in general the movement seems slower. Although I'd guess stuff like backstab/visceral attacks are similar.

edit: I could always be Destiny and take the worst starting class and also not level up vitality at all for maximum frustration (actually no thx).

Backstab is way better in Dark Souls. You don't have to do anything other than hit the dude from behind, unlike in BB where you have to hit them with a special charged attack first. It's almost always the best way to kill a regular enemy.

Parrying is more risky, since the range of the parry in DS is just the range of your hand/shield/whatever, so the attack WILL hit you if you miss the parry, whereas in BB your "parry" is the range of your fungun.

Also healing takes WAY longer, most enemies can punish you while you use an Estus Flask.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
July 31 2015 23:26 GMT
#5851
On August 01 2015 08:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 08:15 TheEmulator wrote:
Thanks Crusnik and Ghandi. Think I'll try out wanderer then. Gonna have another look at the early game differences and decide.

Yeah Ghandi I was thinking of the uchigatana. I checked if there were any Katana's in DS because the Chikage was my favourite in BB. Just wasn't sure if it was garbage or not (the chikage is actually kind of garbage in PVE but straight up dirty in PVP, lol), but you recommended it without me asking so it must be alright enough. I mean if it sucks I just need to try harder to beat the game, and I'm ok with that. I just fucking love katanas

I'll check out the spoiler. I don't mind being spoiled on how to achieve certain weapons and stuff. I just won't read tips on how to defeat bosses, and if I get stuck or lost I usually try to figure it out myself since that's the fun of these games.

Also yeah I'm slightly aware of the mechanical differences between BB and DS just from watching some of you guys stream the game. I think you parry with shields/blocking instead of the gun, and in general the movement seems slower. Although I'd guess stuff like backstab/visceral attacks are similar.

edit: I could always be Destiny and take the worst starting class and also not level up vitality at all for maximum frustration (actually no thx).

Backstab is way better in Dark Souls. You don't have to do anything other than hit the dude from behind, unlike in BB where you have to hit them with a special charged attack first. It's almost always the best way to kill a regular enemy.

Parrying is more risky, since the range of the parry in DS is just the range of your hand/shield/whatever, so the attack WILL hit you if you miss the parry, whereas in BB your "parry" is the range of your fungun.

Also healing takes WAY longer, most enemies can punish you while you use an Estus Flask.

yeah you have to use a charged attack. If you parry an enemy you can just do a straight up visceral attack, no need to even get behind. Just need to be really close.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 31 2015 23:28 GMT
#5852
On August 01 2015 08:26 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 08:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2015 08:15 TheEmulator wrote:
Thanks Crusnik and Ghandi. Think I'll try out wanderer then. Gonna have another look at the early game differences and decide.

Yeah Ghandi I was thinking of the uchigatana. I checked if there were any Katana's in DS because the Chikage was my favourite in BB. Just wasn't sure if it was garbage or not (the chikage is actually kind of garbage in PVE but straight up dirty in PVP, lol), but you recommended it without me asking so it must be alright enough. I mean if it sucks I just need to try harder to beat the game, and I'm ok with that. I just fucking love katanas

I'll check out the spoiler. I don't mind being spoiled on how to achieve certain weapons and stuff. I just won't read tips on how to defeat bosses, and if I get stuck or lost I usually try to figure it out myself since that's the fun of these games.

Also yeah I'm slightly aware of the mechanical differences between BB and DS just from watching some of you guys stream the game. I think you parry with shields/blocking instead of the gun, and in general the movement seems slower. Although I'd guess stuff like backstab/visceral attacks are similar.

edit: I could always be Destiny and take the worst starting class and also not level up vitality at all for maximum frustration (actually no thx).

Backstab is way better in Dark Souls. You don't have to do anything other than hit the dude from behind, unlike in BB where you have to hit them with a special charged attack first. It's almost always the best way to kill a regular enemy.

Parrying is more risky, since the range of the parry in DS is just the range of your hand/shield/whatever, so the attack WILL hit you if you miss the parry, whereas in BB your "parry" is the range of your fungun.

Also healing takes WAY longer, most enemies can punish you while you use an Estus Flask.

yeah you have to use a charged attack. If you parry an enemy you can just do a straight up visceral attack, no need to even get behind. Just need to be really close.

Parrying is the same in DS in that respect, you can riposte them from the front after you parry. No need to get behind them there.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 01 2015 00:18 GMT
#5853
Zombies.

User was warned for this post
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
August 01 2015 00:30 GMT
#5854
On August 01 2015 07:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 07:22 Marmy wrote:
I might get to go to the International this year, so if there is anything that you want from the secret shop be sure to tell me before then.

Bahahahahaha

Marmy please

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 06:49 TheEmulator wrote:
Ok so I finally got a workable controller and I'm starting Dark souls prepare to die edition tonight. As I said I played through Bloodborne more than once so I'm familiar with how it all works. Just curious from those that have played DS as well, if I could get some recommendations on builds. I was very fond of "skill" focused builds in bloodborne (think skill is called dexterity in DS), and I used the blades of attack and chikage as my main weapons (chikage is a katana and BOA are small daggers). Not a fan of easy modeing and going tank/strength builds, especially since I prefer to style on my enemies instead of brute forcing. I'm guessing I should start out as a hunter? or what? Also what's up with the gifts I can select in character creation. Some recommendations on what to do there would be appreciated

Hi Emu! It's good to hear you're not WaveofPussyMagic or anything. Dexterity is what you're gonna be wanting, yup. I would recommend Wanderer or Thief. I would say the weapon that uses Dex/is available early in the game is most likely the Uchigatana; it's a katana. Hard to use, but very powerful. It's hard to get it unless you already know how, but if you do know it just takes a couple seconds, and its pretty early on in the game. I'll put it in spoilers so you can read if you want, but it's totally possible to get it on your own as well. Be warned that Bloodborne is a different beast from Dark Souls; BB is much faster, and a large part of the skill in Dark Souls comes from patience.

+ Show Spoiler +
In the Undead Burgh area there's a merchant that sells things; this is somewhat early on in the burgh area, and the path down to it is blocked by two spearmen with big shields. You have to kill the merchant to get his Uchigatana. Don't worry, he doesn't sell anything remotely valuable. You won't miss him once he's gone. It's still your choice, though.


whats bahahahshahhshah for? Can't tell if you are making fun of me or sad that you have to work all the time...
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 00:42:38
August 01 2015 00:42 GMT
#5855
oh lol Ghandi, I got the uchigatana from that guy in Undead Burgh before actually fully reading your spoiler. Guess it wasn't needed

My OCD of 100% exploring every area has come into effect.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 01 2015 02:34 GMT
#5856
Apparently RL hosted a CS:GO event and got a bunch of drama there as well. Esports is hard, isn't it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 01 2015 03:32 GMT
#5857
Random as fuck, but apparently spiders build their webs much more swiftly than I ever thought/gave them credit. Grilled chicken for some company this evening, they stayed for awhile so I played host instead of getting the grill tidied up after I was done; I put it off til just now, and there's an enormous web just outside my back door right in the path I'd walk to it, with a half-dollar sized spider chillin in the middle like "sup bro, just finished moving in." There's no way it was there at ~6 when I last was out there, so it was built in like 5 hours, maybe less.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 01 2015 04:34 GMT
#5858
ASMO I HEARD YOUR DONATION ON STREAM

E-fame acquired, my friend.
Writer@WriterYamato
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2015 04:36 GMT
#5859
On August 01 2015 13:34 yamato77 wrote:
ASMO I HEARD YOUR DONATION ON STREAM

E-fame acquired, my friend.

Wait did it just happen and I missed it?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 01 2015 04:37 GMT
#5860
On August 01 2015 13:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 13:34 yamato77 wrote:
ASMO I HEARD YOUR DONATION ON STREAM

E-fame acquired, my friend.

Wait did it just happen and I missed it?

I swear I heard the announcer read a donation from DJForeclosure
Writer@WriterYamato
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