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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 02 2015 01:26 GMT
#3121
Hm should I join mafia last minute?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
July 02 2015 01:33 GMT
#3122
On July 02 2015 10:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
I friggin' love this guy.
+ Show Spoiler +

Yeah I discovered him about a year ago. Some great stuff.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2015 01:40 GMT
#3123
On July 02 2015 10:26 Requizen wrote:
Hm should I join mafia last minute?

Already started.
You had like 3 weeks dude
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 02 2015 01:52 GMT
#3124
8 pages in might be better than juicy dads.

My phone is much to strong at mafia.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 02 2015 02:13 GMT
#3125
I have obs qt link for anyone that didn't already get one that wanted to follow along in the game and shitpost about the shitposting.
Writer@WriterYamato
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
July 02 2015 02:15 GMT
#3126
gibe me obs qt link plox
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 04:07:34
July 02 2015 03:53 GMT
#3127
Edit2: Nevermind got it working, streaming Mega Man Rock Force blind playthrough http://www.twitch.tv/red8D
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 04:57:02
July 02 2015 04:56 GMT
#3128
wait rank 10 puts me in the top 9% of ranked players? People are worse than I thought.

On July 02 2015 03:35 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 03:18 TheHumanSensation wrote:
On July 01 2015 20:41 Requizen wrote:
Should I dust Golden Toshley and make something different?


I wouldn't dust Toshley. It's a really solid card that can defs fill the same role that Bolderfist Ogre does in a lot of budget decks that lack legendaries to finish a game. For your first legendaries I would generally recommend things that have one of these two qualities:
(1): Work in lots of different situations (even if they're not #1 or #2 in most of those situations). Ex// Toshley, Dr. Boom, formerly Cairne.
(2): Are a standalone threat to end a game. Ex// Ragnaros, Kel'Thuzard, Ysera.

And after you have some of these then you should grab specific deck-enabling legendaries. Ex// Malygos, Alexstrazsa, formerly Leeroy.

Basically, Toshley is extra valuable because you don't have many legendaries yet.

Also, my recommendation for getting a complete set (which I'm close to) is that you should focus first on securing all of the common/rare/epic cards of a single set.
If you play lots of Arena (and receive GvG packs as such), focus on getting all of the Classic set cards first.
If you don't play lots of Arena (but still get free Classic packs from Tavern Brawl and various promotions), get GvG full set.

After this only buy packs of the set you don't have all of the common/rare/epic cards in. My rationale is that getting multiple of the same legendary is "disasterous" in terms of maximizing dust gains (you'll probably have to build most of them out of dust) so you want to avoid this scenario as much as possible..

Yeah, but dusting him could give me Dr Boom, who is probably better in all of those situations, no? I haven't really seen Toshley in any decks other than Mech decks or those ever-popular Spart Part Antonidas decks.


Dr. Boom is better than Toshley in basically every scenario, yeah. Depending on just how badly you're hurting though I'd recommend both if able. I didn't notice it was golden though, so Toshley -> Boom is a good straight-up trade if you don't care for golden cards.

On July 02 2015 04:38 Alaric wrote:
Toshley has a threat to end the game? How that, because of the generic "solid body for the cost" thing? I don't remember him being that scary on board.


5 attack isn't much of a step down from 6 these days (ie not many 6hp minions in play). It's basically a better Boulderfist Ogre. It's generic big body ofc, but in the scenario where it's an available legendary it defs has it's place in basically any budget deck that'd normally run bouderfist ogre.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
July 02 2015 05:52 GMT
#3129
Boom dies to BGH. Every midrange and control deck has BGH for Boom, and why some decks don't run Boom because they can dodge BGH.

Granted, the bombs still trades favorably, but it's a 4 mana tempo loss.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
July 02 2015 05:59 GMT
#3130
I have most of the regularly seen legendaries and I'd still dust a golden Toshley. I'm still missing Bloodmage and plenty of great class specific legendaries (Cenarius, Velen, Mal Ganis, Neptulon, Al Akir) that are all more useful than Toshley. Hell Toshley's not even the most crucial legendary in a deck that regularly runs him (Antonidas).

If I didn't own Boom/Sylvannis it wouldn't even be a question.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 09:04:27
July 02 2015 09:00 GMT
#3131
On July 02 2015 14:52 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Boom dies to BGH. Every midrange and control deck has BGH for Boom, and why some decks don't run Boom because they can dodge BGH.

Granted, the bombs still trades favorably, but it's a 4 mana tempo loss.


Doesn't Boom dying to BGH mean your other 7+ threats are not safer? It never feels like a huge lose to lose boom to BGH unless he can clear bots before playing BGH on an empty board. Feel that's kind of the strength of Boom in that even the unfavorable trades aren't that bad.

Toshley is super legit I feel. It's just that most decks don't really have the slots to use him in. The 6 mana slot is getting very close to the issues 7+ mana slots have in that they often take up your whole turn so if you putting one in it has to have some kind of bonus effect. That's why you only really see Slyv/Emp/Shieldmadien/Highmane these days with an odd Sky golem in pally. I think if the meta slowed down you'd see more Toshley.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 09:28:10
July 02 2015 09:27 GMT
#3132
Yes, that is correct. But there are plenty of midrange/control/combo decks (Paladin decks in particular: Rogue is generally another one, as is Priest: Druids and Hunters as well, actually: that's alot of classes) that can run without anything over 6 attack, which means BGHs are dead cards in hand (besides being a 4/2 body, which isn't exceptional at all).

If you are planning on running several threats over 7 attack, Boom is a great card. If you aren't running 7 attack+ threats, it becomes much less desirable, since you're very likely to lose it against a common mid/control tech card (and boom is not a good card against aggro). Sure the outcome isn't bad, but compared to say a Loatheb which won't die to bgh and has a very strong, consistent effect (which can shut down some decks if played correctly), or tech cards like Harrison, a deck without 7+ attack creatures should gloss over Boom. Basic opportunity cost.

Toshley is

1) random
2) only really benefits flamewaker mage, which is generally more aggressive and doesn't have room, really, for Toshley
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 02 2015 09:39 GMT
#3133
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 02 2015 09:54 GMT
#3134
My reason for thinking toshley would benefit a slower meta is that he feels similar to Cairne to me. Cairne suffers from being slow, weak to silence and 5 health not really being enough anymore. Toshley at 5/7 stats kills more stuff than cairne, isn't weak to silence and has potential to get a 2-1 trade like cairne. 4 vs 5 attack is just so huge these days.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 02 2015 13:22 GMT
#3135
Toshley is basically a slightly better Boulderfist Ogre, the problem being that Boulderfist Ogre isn't very good in constructed. For the most part their problems are identical.

Basically Toshley is too slow and too easily removed for his impact.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 02 2015 14:26 GMT
#3136
Req Date Tip #23:
Go to AskReddit and find some popular questions that aren't completely stupid. You can use these to spark conversation with your date if you don't have anything to say.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 14:39:13
July 02 2015 14:37 GMT
#3137
Why is it so god damn hot?!? I don't have an AC or a fan and I can't walk around naked outside. FML.

On July 02 2015 23:26 Requizen wrote:
Req Date Tip #23:
Go to AskReddit and find some popular questions that aren't completely stupid. You can use these to spark conversation with your date if you don't have anything to say.

Maybe you should ask questions that interest you about a person rather than:
Other than sex and urination, what do you use your genitals for?
What sounds like it's really nice but isn't?
What movie created within 2000-2015 will be considered a classic in the future?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 02 2015 14:41 GMT
#3138
On July 02 2015 23:37 Eppa! wrote:
Why is it so god damn hot?!? I don't have an AC or a fan and I can't walk around naked outside. FML.

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 23:26 Requizen wrote:
Req Date Tip #23:
Go to AskReddit and find some popular questions that aren't completely stupid. You can use these to spark conversation with your date if you don't have anything to say.

Maybe you should ask questions that interest you about a person rather than:
Other than sex and urination, what do you use your genitals for?
What sounds like it's really nice but isn't?
What movie created within 2000-2015 will be considered a classic in the future?

I picked "You have $10 to buy groceries to make dinner for you and a date, what do you get?", and we discussed what was feasible and tasty, then made plans to do just that when we moved in together.

I think it went reasonably well, bruv.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 02 2015 14:43 GMT
#3139
Opened Rag and crafted Sylvannas last night =D

Now I feel like I can do whatever the hell I want to with dust from now on.

On July 02 2015 23:41 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 23:37 Eppa! wrote:
Why is it so god damn hot?!? I don't have an AC or a fan and I can't walk around naked outside. FML.

On July 02 2015 23:26 Requizen wrote:
Req Date Tip #23:
Go to AskReddit and find some popular questions that aren't completely stupid. You can use these to spark conversation with your date if you don't have anything to say.

Maybe you should ask questions that interest you about a person rather than:
Other than sex and urination, what do you use your genitals for?
What sounds like it's really nice but isn't?
What movie created within 2000-2015 will be considered a classic in the future?

I picked "You have $10 to buy groceries to make dinner for you and a date, what do you get?", and we discussed what was feasible and tasty, then made plans to do just that when we moved in together.

I think it went reasonably well, bruv.


Wildly different situations when you're discussing that with a finance vs. a random date.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 02 2015 14:50 GMT
#3140
Actually, the "which movie will be a classic" one isn't bad if you both like films, whether it's someone you know or a random date. I often like to think about what media (books, films, comics, etc) from our generation will stand the test of time and still be regarded by our great-grandchildren. With so many new movies, books, tv shows, etc coming out at an increasingly rapid rate, and everything being recorded thanks to the information age, we're kind of getting to a point where there will just be an abundance of fiction and non-fiction out there for people to consume.

I mean, I think Ender's Game is still a gem of science fiction writing and coming of age stories, but in the future will young people still read it? My sister is a teacher and she said she already has high school kids who haven't read or watched Harry Potter and think it's out of style, while people from our generation (or older!) consider it nearly essential reading.

It's just interesting to think about, and probably decent date discussion material.
It's your boy Guzma!
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