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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
November 15 2016 07:06 GMT
#30401
On November 15 2016 13:14 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 10:53 Eppa! wrote:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/04/hey-parents-leave-those-kids-alone/358631/


I am not a parent but there are some here thoughts?

tl;dr?

Let children play w/o supervision.

I think it makes sense. As a dogdad though Im afraid of what actual vices might be learned.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 15 2016 13:24 GMT
#30402
I can totally get behind that but as Duvon alluded to I'm actually more concerned with how crappy some kids can be and the habits my kids would pick up. It already happens with our neighbor so I guess you just have to keep at the discipline and guidance regardless of where your kids go (I mean discipline not in the punishment sense).
It's actually incredible how high-functioning even a 3yr old is. Most people don't give them enough credit.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2016 14:05 GMT
#30403
On November 15 2016 22:24 mordek wrote:
I can totally get behind that but as Duvon alluded to I'm actually more concerned with how crappy some kids can be and the habits my kids would pick up. It already happens with our neighbor so I guess you just have to keep at the discipline and guidance regardless of where your kids go (I mean discipline not in the punishment sense).
It's actually incredible how high-functioning even a 3yr old is. Most people don't give them enough credit.

I feel like people misunderstand kids. They provide them absolutely no stimulus then when the kid is agitated or hyper due to boredom they act like their kid is bad. Or if the child gets easily distracted with mundane things they aren't interested in it becomes this massive psychological issue instead of just making things interesting to the child. Obviously different children are different but I always loved how much my parents would discuss things with me as a person instead of just a authority figure. Children aren't stupid, they just don't know all the nuances yet. It's really peoples inability to explain(due to insufficient understanding) that's a big reason why people think kids are stupid.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2016 14:22 GMT
#30404
On November 15 2016 22:24 mordek wrote:
I can totally get behind that but as Duvon alluded to I'm actually more concerned with how crappy some kids can be and the habits my kids would pick up. It already happens with our neighbor so I guess you just have to keep at the discipline and guidance regardless of where your kids go (I mean discipline not in the punishment sense).
It's actually incredible how high-functioning even a 3yr old is. Most people don't give them enough credit.

In total, it is up to the parents to instill good values in their children so that when they meet other crappy kids with bad habits, they recognize it and don't let it shape them. Same goes for kids with internet access. We've been talking about this a lot recently and I worry about it basically constantly.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
November 15 2016 14:36 GMT
#30405
You know what happens when your kid doesn't get that. He ends up like Scip.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 15 2016 14:36 GMT
#30406
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2016 15:02 GMT
#30407
On November 15 2016 23:36 mordek wrote:
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.

I really worry about that. When I was a kid, my parents owned a business and even though it wasn't every day, I often would go with them to work and got to spend time with them. Right now, I leave when the sun comes up and get back after 6 unless I leave early. I'm scared that I'll end up not being as close to my kid as I'd like because of it, which is honestly making me look at moving closer to the city just for that reason, or seeing if I can negotiate a different schedule so I can catch different trains. I really want to have a child but also it's like the most stressful thing I can imagine.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 15 2016 15:22 GMT
#30408
On November 16 2016 00:02 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 23:36 mordek wrote:
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.

I really worry about that. When I was a kid, my parents owned a business and even though it wasn't every day, I often would go with them to work and got to spend time with them. Right now, I leave when the sun comes up and get back after 6 unless I leave early. I'm scared that I'll end up not being as close to my kid as I'd like because of it, which is honestly making me look at moving closer to the city just for that reason, or seeing if I can negotiate a different schedule so I can catch different trains. I really want to have a child but also it's like the most stressful thing I can imagine.


If it makes you feel any better, that seems like the correct outlook on this: both acknowledging the insane challenge but wanting it a lot anyways.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
November 15 2016 18:04 GMT
#30409
Music monday

"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 15 2016 19:03 GMT
#30410
I can't unseen Shakira as a giraffe.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 15 2016 19:48 GMT
#30411
On November 16 2016 03:04 Eppa! wrote:
Music monday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MntbN1DdEP0

But it's...eh, it's Shakira. I'll let it pass.

On November 16 2016 00:02 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 23:36 mordek wrote:
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.

I really worry about that. When I was a kid, my parents owned a business and even though it wasn't every day, I often would go with them to work and got to spend time with them. Right now, I leave when the sun comes up and get back after 6 unless I leave early. I'm scared that I'll end up not being as close to my kid as I'd like because of it, which is honestly making me look at moving closer to the city just for that reason, or seeing if I can negotiate a different schedule so I can catch different trains. I really want to have a child but also it's like the most stressful thing I can imagine.

If it's any consolation, a lack of heavy face time due to work is something that is encouraged by our culture from a father, as long as there isn't a severe lack of interaction.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 15 2016 19:54 GMT
#30412
On November 16 2016 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2016 03:04 Eppa! wrote:
Music monday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MntbN1DdEP0

But it's...eh, it's Shakira. I'll let it pass.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2016 00:02 Requizen wrote:
On November 15 2016 23:36 mordek wrote:
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.

I really worry about that. When I was a kid, my parents owned a business and even though it wasn't every day, I often would go with them to work and got to spend time with them. Right now, I leave when the sun comes up and get back after 6 unless I leave early. I'm scared that I'll end up not being as close to my kid as I'd like because of it, which is honestly making me look at moving closer to the city just for that reason, or seeing if I can negotiate a different schedule so I can catch different trains. I really want to have a child but also it's like the most stressful thing I can imagine.

If it's any consolation, a lack of heavy face time due to work is something that is encouraged by our culture from a father, as long as there isn't a severe lack of interaction.


I don't know if that's something anyone should aim to emulate though...
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 15 2016 19:55 GMT
#30413
I know I personally vowed as a child not to be like that lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 15 2016 19:57 GMT
#30414
On November 16 2016 04:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2016 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
On November 16 2016 03:04 Eppa! wrote:
Music monday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MntbN1DdEP0

But it's...eh, it's Shakira. I'll let it pass.

On November 16 2016 00:02 Requizen wrote:
On November 15 2016 23:36 mordek wrote:
It's much easier to discipline when your kid isn't exposed to as much negative behaviors though so it needs to be a strong commitment from parents to put forth the effort and time. Not every parent has the luxury of a large emotional and energy bank which is unfortunate But I agree Req.

I really worry about that. When I was a kid, my parents owned a business and even though it wasn't every day, I often would go with them to work and got to spend time with them. Right now, I leave when the sun comes up and get back after 6 unless I leave early. I'm scared that I'll end up not being as close to my kid as I'd like because of it, which is honestly making me look at moving closer to the city just for that reason, or seeing if I can negotiate a different schedule so I can catch different trains. I really want to have a child but also it's like the most stressful thing I can imagine.

If it's any consolation, a lack of heavy face time due to work is something that is encouraged by our culture from a father, as long as there isn't a severe lack of interaction.


I don't know if that's something anyone should aim to emulate though...

Oh, absolutely not. Just that if he is stuck in that situation it probably isn't going to be held against him.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-15 20:04:52
November 15 2016 20:04 GMT
#30415
By the people that aren't closest to him, anyways.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2016 20:13 GMT
#30416
My father was slowly getting to that situation due to his work having him constantly travelling. Eventually he just decided it wasn't worth it and left. It's interesting looking back. He used to smoke a lot, drink a lot and was constantly stressed. Hard to say it was the wrong choice since it did allow us to live a certain kind of life but the damage it did to him was large. Just thankful his body is mostly recovered now(liver completely fine again yay!). Anyway one big thing I remember is that he was always there for sports games even if they were hours away.

If it's any consolation, even after being increasingly busy in my early childhood we got a lot closer in later years. Really though Req, if those thoughts are going through your mind it means you perfectly capable of parenting in my eyes. I'm sure every good parent was absolutely terrified of being bad, that's what makes them good .
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2016 20:23 GMT
#30417
Yeah, I constantly use my parents as a measuring stick for what being an adult should be like. Not to say they are perfect, but I wouldn't trade them for the world. I know not everyone is that lucky, and I honestly feel blessed by it. Now I just worry that I'm not going to be able to do as good of a job, one of my top 3 fears at the moment is that I fail as a parent. And I don't even have a kid yet lol.

I'll just focus on painting little plastic men for the time being.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 15 2016 20:25 GMT
#30418
Didn't you say for whatever reason that you'd post pictures of your work last week-end or something too? As atonment for politics posts maybe.
WHAR?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2016 20:40 GMT
#30419
On November 16 2016 05:25 Alaric wrote:
Didn't you say for whatever reason that you'd post pictures of your work last week-end or something too? As atonment for politics posts maybe.
WHAR?

Ugh ended up playing too many games (both tabletop and vidya) and got bugger all done. Everything is primed (except the Celestant-Prime I recently purchased) and I'll have some stuff to show by the end of the week for sure. I'm doing basically this color scheme: + Show Spoiler [ Anvils of the Heldenhammer] +
[image loading]
.
It's your boy Guzma!
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-15 20:59:12
November 15 2016 20:49 GMT
#30420
I wouldn't worry too much about being away from home/child a decently high amount of time, say <12 hours per day, if you have some good interactive face time when you do finally meet. Assuming you can make those hours not align fully with kids waking time that is, + free weekends.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
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