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On September 20 2016 18:29 Gahlo wrote:

He's on the money with this one. Let's compare it to Star Wars: Imperial Assault. The PC's and Boss figures come pre-painted and very well at that. They are also single pieces instead of the total pain in the ass that the AT-ST is to put together. All the minions are made so even when unpainted they still look good, unlike SW's bland grey/tan pieces that look pretty meh unless you paint them. You also get a fuckton of them. There seems to be 0 cheap tokens/card - everything printed on solid stock or made out of plastic and metal. There also isn't fucking hundreds of them. Oh, and did I mention that SW is MSRP'd at $100?

On September 20 2016 20:11 Ketara wrote:


Have I really been a gamer long enough to see the day where figures coming pre painted is supposed to be a good thing?

On September 20 2016 20:59 killerdog wrote:

It's a board game... Not Warhammer

On September 20 2016 23:04 Requizen wrote:

But it could be! GW board games recently have had some real all-stars - Silver Tower is fantastic, Kill Team is quick and fun (and a great way to get into 40k on a small scale - you only need 2 units from your favored army to play), Lost Patrol is a great throwback to the old Genestealer board games, Deathwatch:Overkill is said to be solid (haven't played it yet), and Betrayal at Calth is a good fit for any Heresy-era fetish you might have.

Of course, they're more expensive because GW, but honestly for the plastic you get inside and the games themselves it's not that bad if you want to do a bit of hobby and also have a good game.

On September 21 2016 03:11 Requizen wrote:
It's been two and a half weeks and I still grin like an idiot when I look at my ring.

Life is pretty amazing right now guys. 10/10 would load save and repeat.

On September 20 2016 18:29 Gahlo wrote:

He's on the money with this one. Let's compare it to Star Wars: Imperial Assault. The PC's and Boss figures come pre-painted and very well at that. They are also single pieces instead of the total pain in the ass that the AT-ST is to put together. All the minions are made so even when unpainted they still look good, unlike SW's bland grey/tan pieces that look pretty meh unless you paint them. You also get a fuckton of them. There seems to be 0 cheap tokens/card - everything printed on solid stock or made out of plastic and metal. There also isn't fucking hundreds of them. Oh, and did I mention that SW is MSRP'd at $100?

On September 21 2016 04:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:

No, I'm the one saying it's super cheap. LT kept laughing at me and I bruise easily ~.~

You guys eluded to the price point, but this can't be overstated. This game, from a component standpoint, is revolutionary. I'm not sure, but this seems to be a Riot Games loss leader venture. The game may be great, but this is setting the bar artificially high in the industry. I'm really conflicted on the long term impact of this game and the impact on the industry as a whole. I would really like to hear from someone like Jamey Stonemaier or owners of other companies, like CMON, who are pushing to have deluxe components, but not in retail editions. I was listening to the Miami Dice group, and Sam states, "See industry, look here at M&M, it can be done!" It can be? Really? I'm calling BS. It can't be done, or it would have been done already. Riot Games was able to produce this game because they have the resources to take a hit on this. M&M is a pure marketing ploy to draw people into their video game product. Love to hear some feedback and whether I'm way off base here.

On September 21 2016 06:28 Requizen wrote:
I don't understand this comment. He's complaining that M&M is going to, what, destroy the board game industry by being too high quality for too low of a cost and therefore make everything else look poor in comparison? That feels kind of stupid.

On September 21 2016 08:13 PrinceXizor wrote:

That's not the concern. the concern is that the highest quality board games will be loss leaders for other products. Which would push prices down across the board, making it more and more difficult for smaller board game companies to make a competitive product. The complaint is that Riot games and other companies with obscene profits will become Walmarts to the indie board game's mom and pop stores.