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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 19 2016 09:31 GMT
#28921
Wonder if theres any reliable figures on the internet for like, average stream views per day per game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 19 2016 11:38 GMT
#28922
Doubt it. I think that information is only available to Twitch, and for the individual streamers, their own pages.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 19 2016 12:06 GMT
#28923
Dunno about esports but the game itself is still growing according to the numbers.
It's your boy Guzma!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2016 17:19 GMT
#28924
On September 19 2016 21:06 Requizen wrote:
Dunno about esports but the game itself is still growing according to the numbers.

almost certainly china driven. game is definitely declining in NA.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 19 2016 17:25 GMT
#28925
On September 20 2016 02:19 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 21:06 Requizen wrote:
Dunno about esports but the game itself is still growing according to the numbers.

almost certainly china driven. game is definitely declining in NA.



You would think, but I've seen more league related apparol than anything else at events and even nerd shops ect. It wouldn't surprise me that growth has slowed, but to be declining might not be wholely correct.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 19 2016 18:00 GMT
#28926
On September 20 2016 02:25 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2016 02:19 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2016 21:06 Requizen wrote:
Dunno about esports but the game itself is still growing according to the numbers.

almost certainly china driven. game is definitely declining in NA.



You would think, but I've seen more league related apparol than anything else at events and even nerd shops ect. It wouldn't surprise me that growth has slowed, but to be declining might not be wholely correct.

this is the right of it.
declining growth != declining population
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 19 2016 18:40 GMT
#28927
Watching Day9 play WC3 has just been a joy. There's a game that needs a replay.

Music Monday - more Robert Delong because this track is freaking tight

It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
September 19 2016 20:01 GMT
#28928
On September 20 2016 02:25 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2016 02:19 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2016 21:06 Requizen wrote:
Dunno about esports but the game itself is still growing according to the numbers.

almost certainly china driven. game is definitely declining in NA.



You would think, but I've seen more league related apparol than anything else at events and even nerd shops ect. It wouldn't surprise me that growth has slowed, but to be declining might not be wholely correct.

I think its a shifting demographic, Most people have quit Dota/LoL but its probably still gaining people form the younger crowd.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 19 2016 20:34 GMT
#28929
I haven't touched LoL for a long time. Kinda sick of it, my friends have the same problem.

Good feels though, time for some happy music :D



This is a real fun poppy electro album. Has some real solid hits on it.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 19 2016 20:38 GMT
#28930
Riot claims a current active monthly playerbase of 100+ million people. Still up from 2014's released numbers of 67 million monthly. League of Legends is not dying, at least not yet.

The esports scene is really suffering, however, due to Riot's mismanagement. In the same time frame, its stipends for LCS teams have stagnated and the game has experienced a number of patch-timing issues that adversely affect the results of some of the most important tournaments. All the while, the cost associated with acquiring a spot in the league and running an LCS-level team has skyrocketed, with revenue streams drying up left and right due to the unfair treatment team sponsors receive from the company. The only people benefiting from Riot's current arrangement is themselves, they can write off any balance sheet deficits in the operation of LCS as money well spent on advertising their game and marketing their content to their loyal viewer/playerbase.

Obviously the dynamic goes a bit deeper than this but this is the gist of what has happened in the past few months as information from (sometimes former) LCS owners and team sponsors becomes public.
Writer@WriterYamato
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 19 2016 21:17 GMT
#28931
On September 20 2016 05:38 yamato77 wrote:
Riot claims a current active monthly playerbase of 100+ million people. Still up from 2014's released numbers of 67 million monthly. League of Legends is not dying, at least not yet.

The esports scene is really suffering, however, due to Riot's mismanagement. In the same time frame, its stipends for LCS teams have stagnated and the game has experienced a number of patch-timing issues that adversely affect the results of some of the most important tournaments. All the while, the cost associated with acquiring a spot in the league and running an LCS-level team has skyrocketed, with revenue streams drying up left and right due to the unfair treatment team sponsors receive from the company. The only people benefiting from Riot's current arrangement is themselves, they can write off any balance sheet deficits in the operation of LCS as money well spent on advertising their game and marketing their content to their loyal viewer/playerbase.

Obviously the dynamic goes a bit deeper than this but this is the gist of what has happened in the past few months as information from (sometimes former) LCS owners and team sponsors becomes public.

Not just the competitive scene. Higher level of play in general. All of my friends who still play appear to agree on this for the moment. Especially considering that the season is coming to a close it should be more active than usual. Maybe a lot of the top players that haven't quit are boosting. That could be a decent explanation.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 21:37:23
September 19 2016 21:36 GMT
#28932
I wonder what's gone on with their competitive scene management that's been so bad?

A year ago Riot was like the Messiah of esports and could do no wrong.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 19 2016 21:37 GMT
#28933
On September 20 2016 06:36 Ketara wrote:
I wonder what's gone on with their competitive scene manager that's been so bad?

A year ago Riot was like the Messiah of esports and could do no wrong.

They probably started believing this themselves. And there's your problem.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 19 2016 22:08 GMT
#28934
On September 20 2016 06:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2016 06:36 Ketara wrote:
I wonder what's gone on with their competitive scene manager that's been so bad?

A year ago Riot was like the Messiah of esports and could do no wrong.

They probably started believing this themselves. And there's your problem.

Pretty sure this wasn't a recent development lol. More like riot in a nutshell since forever. The sad thing is it is kinda true.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 23:00:30
September 19 2016 22:19 GMT
#28935
Because Rito actually manages the scene pretty well, especially because the thing the fans care about (the players) aren't screwed over compared to the past esports contracts. When it comes to the game for esports its relatively weak but the management of league isn't that bad and the investments are quite speculative but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as there isn't an esports crash.

Monte and others a complaining about Riot not making the scene into some crazy laissez faire laissez passer environment for risk capitalists (which already dominate) to invest into teams where as League actually has a lot of ethics compared to shit show that is dota.

However there are some bad things about the Riot show like patch schedule and forced meta maybe management of employees are included here but its the US so I can't talk about that. Riot actually has relatively healthy scene while there are some missteps its comparatively very good compared to issues we have seen in other esports.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 19 2016 22:34 GMT
#28936
Good lord this page, they went all out.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/skins/star-guardian-2016#guardiansFP
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
September 20 2016 03:26 GMT
#28937
I am feeling tired and moody.

"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 20 2016 03:44 GMT
#28938
On September 20 2016 07:34 Gahlo wrote:
Good lord this page, they went all out.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/skins/star-guardian-2016#guardiansFP


Sailor Mars was always the best.
Forever Young
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 20 2016 04:58 GMT
#28939
Lord Tolkien is trying to tell me that $75 for Mechs vs Minions is anything but an absolute steal for that price.

Please guys, tell this man how foolish he is.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 20 2016 05:57 GMT
#28940
On September 20 2016 13:58 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lord Tolkien is trying to tell me that $75 for Mechs vs Minions is anything but an absolute steal for that price.

Please guys, tell this man how foolish he is.

Did you tell him that it comes with ONE HUNDRED minions?
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