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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 31 2015 17:41 GMT
#102141
On June 01 2015 02:37 Frudgey wrote:
Soniv you need to realize that people don't watch your stream to see the game itself. I mean yes it obviously helps if you play a game that people are interested, but people watch your stream for you.

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#102142
k - witcher

http://www.twitch.tv/jcarlsoniv
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#102143
I think I broke my finger. Or atleast jammed it really good. I was getting dressed for work with the ceiling fan on full speed because its finally getting hot, and my hand met the blades. It hasn't turned colors yet but it fucking hurts
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 31 2015 18:05 GMT
#102144
On June 01 2015 02:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 02:37 Frudgey wrote:
Soniv you need to realize that people don't watch your stream to see the game itself. I mean yes it obviously helps if you play a game that people are interested, but people watch your stream for you.

This is pretty much what I told Wave 2 days ago.

Ehhhh we talked about this and I don't agree necessarily. Yes the fact is that a fair number of people from OT watched me play Dark Souls because Wave + DS = hilarity and whatnot, and because there we people to talk to and interact with more people showed up as I streamed regularly, but the fact remains the 'pull' was Dark Souls. In this case the 'pull' would be The Witcher. I could stream MTGO or Isaac or whatever and I wouldn't get nearly as many viewers as last year because
a) fewer people in OT care about us streaming anymore + fewer people in OT in general
b) fewer people care about those specific games


I personally stream because I enjoy entertaining people and interacting with viewers, and it's not fun for me just to turn the stream on and see 3 people there and not talking, or no one there at all. It adds an invisible amount of extra effort/stress to playing games that wouldn't be there were I not broadcasting. I love that people want to watch either me or Soniv because it's 'us,' but the fact remains that we're not popular enough for more than 3-5 people to drop in and out at any one time, and certainly not enough to keep up the viewer interaction that I personally enjoy.

Now that I'm off I want to start streaming REGULARLY again just like last year, but my problem is I don't have a 'pull' that can get me to the same or even close to the level I was at last year. Right now the games I want to play are too sporadic/short, and I don't have a specific 'goal' that will keep me going through one gaming session for an extended amount of time. For Soniv, the Witcher is probably perfect in that regard, but I personally don't know if the game itself has enough 'pull.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 31 2015 18:06 GMT
#102145
Your stream are too high quality for me to watch ;(.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 31 2015 18:08 GMT
#102146
Was hesitant to start this basketball anime called "Kuroko's Basketball", mainly because the last sports anime I watched was Eyeshield 21, and thought it was pretty butt, but now that I'm waiting for NBA Finals to start soon, this is actually a pretty good way to fill in that void lolol.

I also heard Blood Battle Blockade is great too.
Forever Young
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 31 2015 18:14 GMT
#102147
On June 01 2015 03:08 sung_moon wrote:
Was hesitant to start this basketball anime called "Kuroko's Basketball", mainly because the last sports anime I watched was Eyeshield 21, and thought it was pretty butt, but now that I'm waiting for NBA Finals to start soon, this is actually a pretty good way to fill in that void lolol.

I also heard Blood Battle Blockade is great too.


You have no idea how good this show actually is. Currently all caught up and I want moooooore.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 18:19:57
May 31 2015 18:19 GMT
#102148
I couldn't figure out what you talking about since I only ever see it written in Japanese. It's a decent spectacle show if you like that. There are a few sports anime I really like. Chihayafuru, Saki, Girls und Panzer are my favs. There's cross game and prince of tennis too.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 31 2015 18:41 GMT
#102149
On June 01 2015 03:14 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 03:08 sung_moon wrote:
Was hesitant to start this basketball anime called "Kuroko's Basketball", mainly because the last sports anime I watched was Eyeshield 21, and thought it was pretty butt, but now that I'm waiting for NBA Finals to start soon, this is actually a pretty good way to fill in that void lolol.

I also heard Blood Battle Blockade is great too.


You have no idea how good this show actually is. Currently all caught up and I want moooooore.

Cixah models where?
It's your boy Guzma!
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 31 2015 18:52 GMT
#102150
On June 01 2015 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 02:38 TheYango wrote:
On June 01 2015 02:37 Frudgey wrote:
Soniv you need to realize that people don't watch your stream to see the game itself. I mean yes it obviously helps if you play a game that people are interested, but people watch your stream for you.

This is pretty much what I told Wave 2 days ago.

Ehhhh we talked about this and I don't agree necessarily. Yes the fact is that a fair number of people from OT watched me play Dark Souls because Wave + DS = hilarity and whatnot, and because there we people to talk to and interact with more people showed up as I streamed regularly, but the fact remains the 'pull' was Dark Souls. In this case the 'pull' would be The Witcher. I could stream MTGO or Isaac or whatever and I wouldn't get nearly as many viewers as last year because
a) fewer people in OT care about us streaming anymore + fewer people in OT in general
b) fewer people care about those specific games


I personally stream because I enjoy entertaining people and interacting with viewers, and it's not fun for me just to turn the stream on and see 3 people there and not talking, or no one there at all. It adds an invisible amount of extra effort/stress to playing games that wouldn't be there were I not broadcasting. I love that people want to watch either me or Soniv because it's 'us,' but the fact remains that we're not popular enough for more than 3-5 people to drop in and out at any one time, and certainly not enough to keep up the viewer interaction that I personally enjoy.

Now that I'm off I want to start streaming REGULARLY again just like last year, but my problem is I don't have a 'pull' that can get me to the same or even close to the level I was at last year. Right now the games I want to play are too sporadic/short, and I don't have a specific 'goal' that will keep me going through one gaming session for an extended amount of time. For Soniv, the Witcher is probably perfect in that regard, but I personally don't know if the game itself has enough 'pull.'

I see where you're coming from, and I think you raise a legitimate point. Thinking about it now, if all you ever played was Tomb of the Necrodancer, I don't think I'd watch your stream.

But if you look at the big name YouTubers, sure people watch them for the games they play. But more importantly, they watch them for the personalities. I'm not saying that the game is irrelevant, but you can't just discount the personality playing the game. I'd say that the person playing the game is about 60% of the reason someone watches their stream, while the other 40% is due to the game their playing.*

And the thing is too, people are different. Some people will only watch people play games they're interested in, while others might just watch Markiplier just because he's Markiplier.

But ideally you want both. I think as far as this thread goes though, most people watch other people because they like the personalities.

*I should really stress the point that I just threw out some numbers. I am more than willing to admit that I might be entirely wrong on this point and maybe people watch streamers mostly for the game content and not the streamer itself. I just don't think that this is the case however.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 31 2015 19:00 GMT
#102151
Forgot my twitch password. Blahhh.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 31 2015 19:03 GMT
#102152
On June 01 2015 03:41 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 03:14 Cixah wrote:
On June 01 2015 03:08 sung_moon wrote:
Was hesitant to start this basketball anime called "Kuroko's Basketball", mainly because the last sports anime I watched was Eyeshield 21, and thought it was pretty butt, but now that I'm waiting for NBA Finals to start soon, this is actually a pretty good way to fill in that void lolol.

I also heard Blood Battle Blockade is great too.


You have no idea how good this show actually is. Currently all caught up and I want moooooore.

Cixah models where?


Sitting on my desk unpainted until probably fridayish. Haven't spent any thing else because poor and rain making me work too much. 79 hour week hype.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 31 2015 19:07 GMT
#102153
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
May 31 2015 19:14 GMT
#102154
Shucks when did Wave play Necrodancer and why did I miss it D:
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 19:27:55
May 31 2015 19:14 GMT
#102155
On June 01 2015 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.

http://willsaveworldforgold.com/?p=262

I wonder how you would react if Gimble started acting like this.

hmmm..
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 31 2015 19:30 GMT
#102156
If a stream is linked here, I usually tune in no matter what game is being played if I'm around.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 31 2015 20:36 GMT
#102157
On June 01 2015 04:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.

http://willsaveworldforgold.com/?p=262

I wonder how you would react if Gimble started acting like this.

hmmm..


Dear diary,

Today Gimble decided he wanted to die.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 21:18:21
May 31 2015 21:07 GMT
#102158
On June 01 2015 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 04:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 01 2015 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.

http://willsaveworldforgold.com/?p=262

I wonder how you would react if Gimble started acting like this.

hmmm..


Dear diary,

Today Gimble decided he wanted to die.

He missed his opportunity with the random lightning bolt dude. Next level we'll be fine. Because removing a rocky splinter from a god has to be worth some EXP, right?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 31 2015 21:21 GMT
#102159
On June 01 2015 04:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.

http://willsaveworldforgold.com/?p=262

I wonder how you would react if Gimble started acting like this.

hmmm..


You're welcome to try.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 21:32:10
May 31 2015 21:26 GMT
#102160
On June 01 2015 06:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 04:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 01 2015 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wave I'll watch anything you stream. <3

I mean that, even though I'm flaky about WHEN it happens.

http://willsaveworldforgold.com/?p=262

I wonder how you would react if Gimble started acting like this.

hmmm..


You're welcome to try.

But I already did try.

As you recall, you gave me a spell.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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