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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
February 23 2015 17:50 GMT
#87161
On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
February 23 2015 17:53 GMT
#87162
On February 24 2015 02:22 PrinceXizor wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 02:18 mordek wrote: On February 24 2015 02:15 PrinceXizor wrote: Is your joke ration card full now, or do you have a few left this week? Really? Just use discretion and common sense. you took that far too seriously, Gahlo is streaming This War of Mine lately. I was afraid this was the case but it was literally on the same page about people complaining about moderation standards.It's w/e I'm just in the camp of don't get this thread killed. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
February 23 2015 17:57 GMT
#87163
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 23 2015 18:07 GMT
#87164
On February 23 2015 22:29 mordek wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2015 16:32 Zess wrote: Is there interest on a LL health & fitness thread, perhaps dedicated to skinny dudes with weight gain problems? Basically everyone just posts in here with their problems and hopes that red_ will fix it with his magic powers, so maybe we can get a dedicated group going for mutual support yadda yadda. I know TL.net proper has a Health & Fitness but the only name I recognize in there is mordek Afaik however it's only Alaric, PX, and me so far on the "if I continue to be a skinny gamer nerd my spine is going to snap in half" climb-out struggle I know you're skinny but when you nearly squat 2x bw you're spine is probably going to be ok or that set was some sort of atrocity and you nearly died ![]() And you all should work out. It's da best. I wasn't feeling it today but I got in at 6 anyways. Want to know what one of the worse things to realize after a workout? You forgot a towel. I started my "I'm actually gonna stop being a stick" program seriously around last September so there's been a ton of beginner gainz made. I'm also not nearly at 2x BW, weight currently fluctuating around 133 and squatting 215x5 with good speed and 225x5 somewhat clumsily. Also had to drop my deadlift down to 195 because I'm doing it improperly and leading with my lower back = I'm would end up breaking myself soon. I've pretty much also capped out my beginner gains because I no longer have the energy (diet issue?) to do multiple heavy compound exercises per day or to just casually dump on an extra 10 lbs each week (a workout program issue?). Trying to eat more is probably the most difficult part, because the default state for me is to not eat. If I don't really think about it then I'll consume 1500 Cal. If I'm in a bad mood or w/e, instead of eating to feel good my default behavior is also to not eat. For most of my life you could see my ribcage through my skin and feel the vertebrae jut against my lower back. So just as some people who grew up with different genetics and eating habits want to lose weight for health reasons before getting gainz for aesthetic I'm mostly trying to bulk up so stuff like pushing a lawnmower, carrying bags of rice from my car to my pantry, or holding my carry-on luggage over my head for 3+ minutes while waiting for incompetent people to realize that their baggage really truly doesn't fit isn't a chore. The aesthetic aspects are sort of a bonus motivator. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
February 23 2015 18:12 GMT
#87165
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
February 23 2015 18:19 GMT
#87166
That's not exactly going to give me gains (my arms are stronger than before though, shows how weak I am). I've been Xes-class in terms of body shape for a number of years though, according to his description. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 23 2015 18:32 GMT
#87167
On February 24 2015 03:12 Numy wrote: Pretty sure if you squatting 215 you're not skinny. Unless you have huge legs compared to your upper body. From what I've read, people with naturally skinny bodies can gain mass pretty quickly with enough eating and proper lifting. Maybe red can comment more on whether that's true or not and the physiology of it March 2014 I was 110 lbs at 5'6" June - 115 Sept - 120 Nov - 130 Dec - 125 (was sick for last 2 weeks of Nov) Feb 2015 - 130+ It does help that in 2006-2008 I was an athlete (swimmer though, so all lean and no gainz) and 2010-2012 I vaguely kind of lifted some things at a university gym, so I my body already has some built in response to training A huge part of it is probably motivation to stick to something for that large amount of time. For me the biggest motivators weren't the actual body weight or circumference measurements because those are slow and fluctuate but basically watching 3 rep-maxes go up (and like ELO, only counting the peaks of the fluctuations in those), as well as logging workout times, because my brain is wired to love looking at numbers and watching numbers get bigger. Around Nov of last year, in addition to being MMORPG levels of spreadsheeting my workouts, I started to ease into nutrition tracking, initially just doing total Calorie intake, but now I'm using my natural tending to gamer addiction spreadsheeting to do some macro tracking as well. As of now, I've gotten enough habituation (fake it until you make it!) in that if I don't go to the gym for a few days due to traveling I get jumpy and really look forward to it, so I'm probably set in terms of motivation until some series of events prevents me from going to a gym for a good 2 weeks straight and kills all of the habit building. This also is probably the 4th or 5th time since high school when I've seriously tried to increase strength/core stability and the only moderately successful attempt. It probably helps that I live in a cold, desolate shithole where there is literally nothing else to do besides go to the gym or play video games. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
February 23 2015 18:40 GMT
#87168
On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
February 23 2015 18:41 GMT
#87169
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
February 23 2015 18:42 GMT
#87170
On February 24 2015 03:41 ComaDose wrote: I for one am glad to see Frudgey back. Thought that said "for once and was all sorts of disappointed | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
February 23 2015 18:44 GMT
#87171
On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. Always dubstep lasers, never not dubstep lasers. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
February 23 2015 18:56 GMT
#87172
On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. There's no reason for you to buy me skins, lol | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
February 23 2015 19:00 GMT
#87173
On February 24 2015 03:32 Zess wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 03:12 Numy wrote: Pretty sure if you squatting 215 you're not skinny. Unless you have huge legs compared to your upper body. From what I've read, people with naturally skinny bodies can gain mass pretty quickly with enough eating and proper lifting. Maybe red can comment more on whether that's true or not and the physiology of it March 2014 I was 110 lbs at 5'6" June - 115 Sept - 120 Nov - 130 Dec - 125 (was sick for last 2 weeks of Nov) Feb 2015 - 130+ It does help that in 2006-2008 I was an athlete (swimmer though, so all lean and no gainz) and 2010-2012 I vaguely kind of lifted some things at a university gym, so I my body already has some built in response to training A huge part of it is probably motivation to stick to something for that large amount of time. For me the biggest motivators weren't the actual body weight or circumference measurements because those are slow and fluctuate but basically watching 3 rep-maxes go up (and like ELO, only counting the peaks of the fluctuations in those), as well as logging workout times, because my brain is wired to love looking at numbers and watching numbers get bigger. Around Nov of last year, in addition to being MMORPG levels of spreadsheeting my workouts, I started to ease into nutrition tracking, initially just doing total Calorie intake, but now I'm using my natural tending to gamer addiction spreadsheeting to do some macro tracking as well. As of now, I've gotten enough habituation (fake it until you make it!) in that if I don't go to the gym for a few days due to traveling I get jumpy and really look forward to it, so I'm probably set in terms of motivation until some series of events prevents me from going to a gym for a good 2 weeks straight and kills all of the habit building. This also is probably the 4th or 5th time since high school when I've seriously tried to increase strength/core stability and the only moderately successful attempt. It probably helps that I live in a cold, desolate shithole where there is literally nothing else to do besides go to the gym or play video games. There are multiple body types, Ectomorph, Mesomorph and Endomorph. From what I read Ectomorph is the typical "small skinny" guy body type which finds it difficult to gain weight. Mesomorph is the slightly larger frame more common to athletics that is rather easy to gain weight on. There's a whole bunch of other science involved but that seems to be the short of it. Anyway I'm glad you doing so well. Just found it a little disingenuous to say you're "skinny" yet able to do to exercise as that level, other skinny people may see that and think they should be squating that much after such a short time frame which isn't really the norm. Then people lose motivation when they see they aren't progressing at that fast a pace. edit: Oops I left off Endomorph, that's your typical "large" guy build that finds it hard to lose fat but gains easily both muscle and fat. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
February 23 2015 19:00 GMT
#87174
On February 24 2015 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. Surely you must think that Creator Viktor is the best skin, no? In this case Prototype Viktor is also an acceptable answer. Edit: And there was no reason for me to make donations to Wave's stream. But I understand if you don't want some random stranger gifting you things. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
February 23 2015 19:05 GMT
#87175
On February 24 2015 04:00 Frudgey wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. Surely you must think that Creator Viktor is the best skin, no? In this case Prototype Viktor is also an acceptable answer. Edit: And there was no reason for me to make donations to Wave's stream. But I understand if you don't want some random stranger gifting you things. I have nothing against Creator Viktor, just that I wasn't willing to spend extra money on another skin when I already have Mech. I'm not a fan of Prototype. And I mean, I won't stop you if you really want to lol. It just isn't necessary. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
February 23 2015 19:06 GMT
#87176
On February 24 2015 03:41 ComaDose wrote: I for one am glad to see Frudgey back. For two. ![]() Also, thx for the words Cheep. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
February 23 2015 19:13 GMT
#87177
On February 24 2015 04:05 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 04:00 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: On February 23 2015 21:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm more or less too broken to work out. I'm sure there must be some ways around it but I don't know what they are and I'm not sure how I'd even find out. Not that I'm particularly motivated to do so. ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. Surely you must think that Creator Viktor is the best skin, no? In this case Prototype Viktor is also an acceptable answer. Edit: And there was no reason for me to make donations to Wave's stream. But I understand if you don't want some random stranger gifting you things. I have nothing against Creator Viktor, just that I wasn't willing to spend extra money on another skin when I already have Mech. I'm not a fan of Prototype. And I mean, I won't stop you if you really want to lol. It just isn't necessary. If Full Machine is your favourite skin then that's understandable. It's just that I haven't met one person who was like "Eh, Creator Viktor is okay, but I like ________ Viktor skin a whole lot more". Most people like Creator Viktor like how this sub-forum likes Wave. I'd still like to add you on League though, because I think you're a cool dude and everything. Is your League Tag just "Soniv"? Assuming that'd you be okay with having me on your friends list of course. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
February 23 2015 19:16 GMT
#87178
On February 24 2015 04:13 Frudgey wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 04:05 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 04:00 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: [quote] ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. Surely you must think that Creator Viktor is the best skin, no? In this case Prototype Viktor is also an acceptable answer. Edit: And there was no reason for me to make donations to Wave's stream. But I understand if you don't want some random stranger gifting you things. I have nothing against Creator Viktor, just that I wasn't willing to spend extra money on another skin when I already have Mech. I'm not a fan of Prototype. And I mean, I won't stop you if you really want to lol. It just isn't necessary. If Full Machine is your favourite skin then that's understandable. It's just that I haven't met one person who was like "Eh, Creator Viktor is okay, but I like ________ Viktor skin a whole lot more". Most people like Creator Viktor like how this sub-forum likes Wave. I'd still like to add you on League though, because I think you're a cool dude and everything. Is your League Tag just "Soniv"? Assuming that'd you be okay with having me on your friends list of course. Yeah, it's just Soniv. I'm surprised you're not already on my friend list lol | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
February 23 2015 19:19 GMT
#87179
On February 24 2015 04:13 Frudgey wrote: Show nested quote + On February 24 2015 04:05 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 04:00 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 03:40 Frudgey wrote: On February 24 2015 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 24 2015 02:29 Gahlo wrote: On February 24 2015 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 23 2015 22:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 23 2015 22:02 Holyflare wrote: [quote] ![]() oh, no, it's not what you think he's just hit stunned Plz son your hitstun won't even let you get a new controller so you can bust out of it Sony too busy with his pro League career so he can feed his crack addiction. The Glorious Evolution won't fund itself Do you own the creator Viktor skin? Please tell me you own the creator Viktor skin. If you don't have it, let me know so I can friend you on League and then buy you the skin two weeks later. I might also buy you Darius just to troll you as well, but that's irrelevant right now. And I'm serious about that Viktor offer. No, I don't own it. I'm perfectly happy with my Full Machine Viktor in all of its weird, square-mouthed glory. Surely you must think that Creator Viktor is the best skin, no? In this case Prototype Viktor is also an acceptable answer. Edit: And there was no reason for me to make donations to Wave's stream. But I understand if you don't want some random stranger gifting you things. I have nothing against Creator Viktor, just that I wasn't willing to spend extra money on another skin when I already have Mech. I'm not a fan of Prototype. And I mean, I won't stop you if you really want to lol. It just isn't necessary. If Full Machine is your favourite skin then that's understandable. It's just that I haven't met one person who was like "Eh, Creator Viktor is okay, but I like ________ Viktor skin a whole lot more". Most people like Creator Viktor like how this sub-forum likes Wave. I'd still like to add you on League though, because I think you're a cool dude and everything. Is your League Tag just "Soniv"? Assuming that'd you be okay with having me on your friends list of course. No one likes anything like we like Wave. + Show Spoiler + Not because we really like him, just because we have a unique and juicy relationship with him. + Show Spoiler + It's complicated. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 23 2015 19:20 GMT
#87180
On February 24 2015 04:00 Numy wrote: Just found it a little disingenuous to say you're "skinny" yet able to do to exercise as that level, other skinny people may see that and think they should be squating that much after such a short time frame which isn't really the norm. Then people lose motivation when they see they aren't progressing at that fast a pace. Ah yea I wouldn't say I'm skinny anymore, but it's also taken me nearly a year to get to this point*, after trying and failing multiple times before. Hoping that can get other people motivated as well, and maybe find their own way to fake it (i.e. find alternative reward systems to keep them on the program, e.g. for me it was diversion of love for spreadsheeting and tracking stats MMORPG style) until they make it (no longer need the external reward system). | ||
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