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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:38 Cixah wrote: I'm a level 1 rules judge and the rules state 3 consistent evidence that the "loop" is in progress. Then I say"do this a bunch." Until I need to exit the loop. In which case I say "then I kill you with x". How does that work for online? | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:32 TheYango wrote: One question I have, Cixah, is how explicitly do you typically have to go through the motions of the infinite combo in a deck like this at the point where you go infinite at a serious offline event. If it's clearly shown that your combo goes infinite, do you still have to play through each mana-generating cycle explicitly to play out the cards you want? So long as both you and your opponent understand that due to a specific set of legal actions that can be taken based on the current game state you can arrive at a predictable set of results, you can ascribe a shortcut to the entire chain of actions. (This is specifically allowed for under 716 of the Comprehensive Rules) While I can't comment on how Cixah plays irl, based on the rules at least at any point Cixah is allowed to invoke the shortcut for mana generation for any arbitrarily defined number of times at any point in time for which the shortcut is valid. For the most part though, if you were to say you have infinte mana now and just started doing whatever you wanted to not many people would call you out on it unless they're being super strict. In which case you just invoke your shortcut and say "I repeat this for X number of times" where X is a ridiculously huge finite number and that would be acceptable. Online makes you actually play it out and doesn't allow for shortcuts iirc, which is why some decks are more playable irl than online. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually on that note, can you help me create a standard/modern deck based on the total garbage I have? Honestly if you're just working with scraps from playing Limited, you'd probably be better served by building a deck from the full card pool and testing with something like Cockatrice, then working toward it while continuing to play Limited. Building a scrappy Standard deck out of random draft winnings isn't going to do you much good. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Clicking very quickly. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
But this is MODO we're talking about and it's a shit program, so that's obviously not how it actually works. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:38 Cixah wrote: I'm a level 1 rules judge and the rules state 3 consistent evidence that the "loop" is in progress. Then I say"do this a bunch." Until I need to exit the loop. In which case I say "then I kill you with x". So long as you can cleanly show the loop over and over without opp. Interaction, then you can short cut so long as both players understand what is happening with the game state. ah, interesting when I was playing, I never encountered infinite loops, so it wasn't something I had to worry about | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:39 TheYango wrote: Honestly if you're just working with scraps from playing Limited, you'd probably be better served by building a deck from the full card pool and testing with something like Cockatrice, then working toward it while continuing to play Limited. Building a scrappy Standard deck out of random draft winnings isn't going to do you much good. True, but at the very least I want to have something to use up my last 2 free points (standard New player constructed) and to try in open play for fun to learn what I'm up against. I'm also way more likely to fuck something up in Cockatrice. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:42 jcarlsoniv wrote: ah, interesting when I was playing, I never encountered infinite loops, so it wasn't something I had to worry about Technically that's for a finite loop. Infinite loops end in draws because unless the player with active priority has an instant speed interaction then the game will end in a draw. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote: I wonder what's going to happen to standard when theros rotates out? I know there are a bunch more sets before that but it's so difficult to consider. Unless the newest block is the dominant one, which is very hard to do without it all being out, that's the way the Standard cookie crumbles. One day you're the top deck, the next your entire core is gone. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:49 Gahlo wrote: Unless the newest block is the dominant one, which is very hard to do without it all being out, that's the way the Standard cookie crumbles. One day you're the top deck, the next your entire core is gone. Or you play non-rotating formats where the only thing you have to worry about is the banhammer! (That and prices. But at least it's one-off.) Also the lyrics for Miss Missing You make more sense than most FOB songs tbh. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I'm so fucking glad I'm gone. I might just say fuck it and be done on Friday. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:41 Requizen wrote: My boss, who has never so much as written a line of code in her life, tried to lecture me today on the merits of Web Forms vs MVC and why I'm wrong to do what I'm doing. I'm so fucking glad I'm gone. I might just say fuck it and be done on Friday. When do you start your next job and can you afford the vacation? Because ya you totes should. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:41 Requizen wrote: My boss, who has never so much as written a line of code in her life, tried to lecture me today on the merits of Web Forms vs MVC and why I'm wrong to do what I'm doing. I'm so fucking glad I'm gone. I might just say fuck it and be done on Friday. Honestly, I'm kinda surprised you're still at work. Common policy at office buildings is when somebody gives their notice they're asked to pack up their things, told not to come back, and given the pay for their final 2 weeks. Discussions like this make me wish I did something with my life... | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:47 Gahlo wrote: Honestly, I'm kinda surprised you're still at work. Common policy at office buildings is when somebody gives their notice they're asked to pack up their things, told not to come back, and given the pay for their final 2 weeks. Discussions like this make me wish I did something with my life... That's not how it works at my office. Someone gives their 2 weeks, HR puts out an email informing the company to meet with that person before they leave if you were actively working on projects with them. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:47 Gahlo wrote: Honestly, I'm kinda surprised you're still at work. Common policy at office buildings is when somebody gives their notice they're asked to pack up their things, told not to come back, and given the pay for their final 2 weeks. Discussions like this make me wish I did something with my life... Haha they compensated my wife for 3 weeks this way. Was pretty great. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I don't expect to be compensated for the last week I'm here tbh. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:53 Requizen wrote: Yeah my boss basically already said "you've used enough PTO in the last couple weeks that we'll probably have to dock your pay". I don't expect to be compensated for the last week I'm here tbh. Then why are you going? That also seems like something's not right unless you are seriously neg in comp time. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:53 Requizen wrote: Yeah my boss basically already said "you've used enough PTO in the last couple weeks that we'll probably have to dock your pay". I don't expect to be compensated for the last week I'm here tbh. Sounds like your boss's bonus is tied into how shitty she treats her employees. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:41 Requizen wrote: My boss, who has never so much as written a line of code in her life, tried to lecture me today on the merits of Web Forms vs MVC and why I'm wrong to do what I'm doing. I'm so fucking glad I'm gone. I might just say fuck it and be done on Friday. wait wait wait As in... she was arguing that web forms are BETTER? How can you get this person fired before you leave? | ||
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