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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 10 2015 20:12 GMT
#84361
On February 11 2015 05:05 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:48 Requizen wrote:
I mean, Devil's Advocate, you get 12 Hunters and 3 Monsters with the game (though you have to unlock some it it by playing). That's $135 "worth" of content for the $60 game (based on their value of "worth"). But, I still don't agree with it.

No devil's advocate on this. The gaming industry in general took a large swing in 2014 towards gouging players for DLC for underdeveloped or incomplete games and dangling "season pass" nonsense with no known releases in the future. Why? Because players have showed time and again that they'd do it. That by paying for it, they said it was okay.

There's a reason why other game companies are upset with Riot about how they do their microtransactions.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about the current state of the base game. I haven't played it but it's been getting pretty good reviews. It's entirely possible that the $60 base game is actually fun and worth the cost devoid of the future DLC. That said I rarely spend $60 on games these days anyway.

A few of my friends were in the beta. They said it was a good game and entertaining, but the lack of variety made them shy away from paying anything more than $40 on the base and saying "hell naw" to the prospect of paying $60 and then buying DLC.


Essentially. I would have even been willing to pay $60 for the full game because I loved the alpha so much. But $60 before any DLC? Fuck no.

They are selling the full game, it just happens to just contain what the base game offers now. Maybe I'm naive but I really don't subscribe to this notion that all the content is finished and the company is just holding it back to be released as DLC later. The new stuff probably just isn't done yet...and if you think you're entitled to that for free then I guess this game isn't for you.

Ever hear of day 1 DLC? The excuse given for it is that they couldn't finish it in time for disk printing, so they couldn't have it ship with the base game and hit their deadline. The problem is that it is content that should have been in the base game but is almost never a free download.


Or if it's a Capcom title, it's dlc on the disc.

Let's be honest here, the current DLC model of day 1 "lookit all this stuff you need to buy" is shit and promotes abuse of your wallet by going along with it. Do not buy day 1 dlc, be very picky in buying any dlc because DLC is making you pay 80$ for a 60$ title that has about 40$ of value.

If you decide to do these things and then wonder why that new title you want is charging 12$ for stuff that should be on disc, you have no one to blame but yourself.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 10 2015 20:12 GMT
#84362
On February 11 2015 04:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 04:55 Crusnik wrote:
One of the reasons I won't do it, but then again, I have 3 copies of Dark Souls 1 (360, ps3, and PC), at least 3 copies of Deus Ex Human Revolution, one on 360, one on PC, and the directors cut on PC. I've also bought all of the Mass Effect games on PC, PS3, and 360, again, because I loved them.

At least my PC handles most games are high/max settings now so I don't need/want multiple copies any longer >.>

But the real question is, did you buy DLC for any of those game?


I bought AotA (DkS DLC once or twice, not sure if it came with the version I got on PS3), Mass Effect, the PS3 version came will all DLC, I bought most of the DLC for 1/2 and only the extra crew member in 3 for 360, and I don't think I have much on PC. DXHR:DC came with everything, but I did buy it on 360 as well. I also have all the Skyrim DLC, but I got that all really cheap on Steam sales, so it doesn't really count I guess?

I have also spent a lot on dota and LoL, but at least nothing new is coming in Dota, aside from maybe CM arcana, that I am interested in, and I've stopped playing LoL completely, probably won't even bother getting ranked this season.
Steam: rook492
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 10 2015 20:15 GMT
#84363
Like imagine if you had to pay $2.50 to download the bonus campaigns for SC/BW (http://classic.battle.net/scc/maps.shtml) or to use 1.10+ Runewords in D2--because that's basically what a ton of this DLC is these days. Minor shit that people used to give away for free or would be standard patch content.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2015 20:21 GMT
#84364
Deus ex is an amazing game and i don't know why i love it so much but i do
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 10 2015 20:26 GMT
#84365
On February 11 2015 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:48 Requizen wrote:
I mean, Devil's Advocate, you get 12 Hunters and 3 Monsters with the game (though you have to unlock some it it by playing). That's $135 "worth" of content for the $60 game (based on their value of "worth"). But, I still don't agree with it.

No devil's advocate on this. The gaming industry in general took a large swing in 2014 towards gouging players for DLC for underdeveloped or incomplete games and dangling "season pass" nonsense with no known releases in the future. Why? Because players have showed time and again that they'd do it. That by paying for it, they said it was okay.

There's a reason why other game companies are upset with Riot about how they do their microtransactions.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about the current state of the base game. I haven't played it but it's been getting pretty good reviews. It's entirely possible that the $60 base game is actually fun and worth the cost devoid of the future DLC. That said I rarely spend $60 on games these days anyway.

A few of my friends were in the beta. They said it was a good game and entertaining, but the lack of variety made them shy away from paying anything more than $40 on the base and saying "hell naw" to the prospect of paying $60 and then buying DLC.


Essentially. I would have even been willing to pay $60 for the full game because I loved the alpha so much. But $60 before any DLC? Fuck no.

But that's "only" 60$.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 10 2015 20:27 GMT
#84366
I got an offer...
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#84367
On February 11 2015 05:27 Requizen wrote:
I got an offer...


YAY

I need a roommate, where is your job?

Fuck I may just move out of my state because fuck this job.

FUCK THIS JOB.

FUCK THIS OVER THERE TOO.

I hate my job today.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#84368
On February 11 2015 05:26 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:48 Requizen wrote:
I mean, Devil's Advocate, you get 12 Hunters and 3 Monsters with the game (though you have to unlock some it it by playing). That's $135 "worth" of content for the $60 game (based on their value of "worth"). But, I still don't agree with it.

No devil's advocate on this. The gaming industry in general took a large swing in 2014 towards gouging players for DLC for underdeveloped or incomplete games and dangling "season pass" nonsense with no known releases in the future. Why? Because players have showed time and again that they'd do it. That by paying for it, they said it was okay.

There's a reason why other game companies are upset with Riot about how they do their microtransactions.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about the current state of the base game. I haven't played it but it's been getting pretty good reviews. It's entirely possible that the $60 base game is actually fun and worth the cost devoid of the future DLC. That said I rarely spend $60 on games these days anyway.

A few of my friends were in the beta. They said it was a good game and entertaining, but the lack of variety made them shy away from paying anything more than $40 on the base and saying "hell naw" to the prospect of paying $60 and then buying DLC.


Essentially. I would have even been willing to pay $60 for the full game because I loved the alpha so much. But $60 before any DLC? Fuck no.

But that's "only" 60$.

Nice catch, Alaric. Call 'em out!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#84369
On February 11 2015 05:26 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:48 Requizen wrote:
I mean, Devil's Advocate, you get 12 Hunters and 3 Monsters with the game (though you have to unlock some it it by playing). That's $135 "worth" of content for the $60 game (based on their value of "worth"). But, I still don't agree with it.

No devil's advocate on this. The gaming industry in general took a large swing in 2014 towards gouging players for DLC for underdeveloped or incomplete games and dangling "season pass" nonsense with no known releases in the future. Why? Because players have showed time and again that they'd do it. That by paying for it, they said it was okay.

There's a reason why other game companies are upset with Riot about how they do their microtransactions.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about the current state of the base game. I haven't played it but it's been getting pretty good reviews. It's entirely possible that the $60 base game is actually fun and worth the cost devoid of the future DLC. That said I rarely spend $60 on games these days anyway.

A few of my friends were in the beta. They said it was a good game and entertaining, but the lack of variety made them shy away from paying anything more than $40 on the base and saying "hell naw" to the prospect of paying $60 and then buying DLC.


Essentially. I would have even been willing to pay $60 for the full game because I loved the alpha so much. But $60 before any DLC? Fuck no.

But that's "only" 60$.


touché

On February 11 2015 05:28 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:27 Requizen wrote:
I got an offer...


YAY

I need a roommate, where is your job?

Fuck I may just move out of my state because fuck this job.

FUCK THIS JOB.

FUCK THIS OVER THERE TOO.

I hate my job today.


this is what I was like towards the end of last week

but it was mostly because I was trying to troubleshoot a customers error, but the customer was lying to me
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#84370
On February 11 2015 05:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:26 Alaric wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 11 2015 04:48 Requizen wrote:
I mean, Devil's Advocate, you get 12 Hunters and 3 Monsters with the game (though you have to unlock some it it by playing). That's $135 "worth" of content for the $60 game (based on their value of "worth"). But, I still don't agree with it.

No devil's advocate on this. The gaming industry in general took a large swing in 2014 towards gouging players for DLC for underdeveloped or incomplete games and dangling "season pass" nonsense with no known releases in the future. Why? Because players have showed time and again that they'd do it. That by paying for it, they said it was okay.

There's a reason why other game companies are upset with Riot about how they do their microtransactions.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about the current state of the base game. I haven't played it but it's been getting pretty good reviews. It's entirely possible that the $60 base game is actually fun and worth the cost devoid of the future DLC. That said I rarely spend $60 on games these days anyway.

A few of my friends were in the beta. They said it was a good game and entertaining, but the lack of variety made them shy away from paying anything more than $40 on the base and saying "hell naw" to the prospect of paying $60 and then buying DLC.


Essentially. I would have even been willing to pay $60 for the full game because I loved the alpha so much. But $60 before any DLC? Fuck no.

But that's "only" 60$.


touché

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:28 Cixah wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:27 Requizen wrote:
I got an offer...


YAY

I need a roommate, where is your job?

Fuck I may just move out of my state because fuck this job.

FUCK THIS JOB.

FUCK THIS OVER THERE TOO.

I hate my job today.


this is what I was like towards the end of last week

but it was mostly because I was trying to troubleshoot a customers error, but the customer was lying to me


My boss tried to write me up today because I couldn't fix bandwidth problems for the network. When I told her my solution of how to fix this was to just have less people on the network she got unhappy and started having a tantrum.

I would honestly just rather work at fucking dunkin donuts if I got paid what I do now. Atleast then I'd get free coffee and donuts.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 10 2015 20:35 GMT
#84371
nice req. i hope it was a generous offer.

I personally like my job. very comfortable. lots of people here complain we should get paid more tho.

I'm going to a fancy date at a seafood restaurant overlooking the lake so i brought my peacoat to feel like a fancy person. gonna buy a bottle of wine and antipasto for two to start to extra fancy it up.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 20:40:46
February 10 2015 20:39 GMT
#84372
IMO, paying 60$ for a game in the first place in 2015 is absurd and ridiculous.

In general if a game is more than 10-15$ I won't buy it no matter what it is. There are rare RARE exceptions. I paid 45$ for Inquisition, and the game before that I spent more than 40$ on I think was SC2.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 10 2015 20:40 GMT
#84373
DRILLING
ALL FUCKING DAY DRILLING RIGHT ABOVE MY HEAD
I VIO:LUBHCV:LSIBUVFL:SIGUFV:ALIUFGLAS:IUFCVGBS
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 10 2015 20:41 GMT
#84374
On February 11 2015 05:28 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:27 Requizen wrote:
I got an offer...


YAY

I need a roommate, where is your job?

Fuck I may just move out of my state because fuck this job.

FUCK THIS JOB.

FUCK THIS OVER THERE TOO.

I hate my job today.

Sorry buddeh, still in Chicago. And moving in with an Otter in a few months.
It's your boy Guzma!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 10 2015 20:42 GMT
#84375
I'd pay $60 for Legacy of the Void cause I'm a chump like that.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 10 2015 20:43 GMT
#84376
On February 11 2015 05:35 ComaDose wrote:
nice req. i hope it was a generous offer.

I personally like my job. very comfortable. lots of people here complain we should get paid more tho.

I'm going to a fancy date at a seafood restaurant overlooking the lake so i brought my peacoat to feel like a fancy person. gonna buy a bottle of wine and antipasto for two to start to extra fancy it up.

It is pretty generous. Most pay I've ever had at a job by a large margin, with quarterly 2% bonuses and one at the end of the year. Plus all the normal benefits and what not, and flex hours and one a day work from home.

It seems nice, but of course if something better comes along before then I'll have to make some decisions
It's your boy Guzma!
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 10 2015 20:46 GMT
#84377
All of you people with your jobs with normal hours...I work 7-5 if I'm lucky, 5-7 if I'm not...
Steam: rook492
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 10 2015 20:47 GMT
#84378
At least you all earn money for your jobs
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 10 2015 20:48 GMT
#84379
at least you contribute to society in some non superficial way
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 10 2015 20:49 GMT
#84380
I hate this town sometimes. I just want to be able to drive to the gym and workout before 5PM, is that so much to ask? Apparently because every metered spot is taken and the other lots don't open till 5 >_<
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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